HB1224 - Its Not Over Until Its Over

[JVC]

Hello All,

Since you are following this forum, you are probably aware that HB1224 passed the Senate by a razor-thin margin of 18-17. Two common sense Democrats (Sens. Tochtrop and XXXX) voted against the bill. The bill was amended, which means it goes back to the House for another vote.

The odds are slim that we will win this one, however, it seems this world is one of second chances. The amendment cracks open the door of opportunity. Perhaps some of the House representatives who watched the fierce opposition to the bill in the Senate debates may have changed their minds.

From RMGO:

Call and write these representatives today and tell them you want them to vote NO on HB 1224:



[*=left]Rep. Pete Lee–HD18- (303) 866-2932
Email (pete.lee.house@state.co.us) – Facebook (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/11784345:14843089195:m:1:206043978:B178BBDE64A341C 2427590D72A1590E5:r) - Twitter (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/11784346:14843089195:m:1:206043978:B178BBDE64A341C 2427590D72A1590E5:r)
[*=left]Rep. Mike McLachlan –HD59- (303) 866-2914
Email (Mike.mclachlan.house@state.co.us) – Facebook (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/11784347:14843089195:m:1:206043978:B178BBDE64A341C 2427590D72A1590E5:r) - Twitter (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/11784348:14843089195:m:1:206043978:B178BBDE64A341C 2427590D72A1590E5:r)
[*=left]Rep. Diane Mitsch Bush –HD26- (303) 866-2923
Email (Diane.mitschbush.house@state.co.us) – Facebook (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/11784349:14843089195:m:1:206043978:B178BBDE64A341C 2427590D72A1590E5:r)

[*=left]Rep. Dominick Moreno –HD32-(303) 866-2964
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[*=left]Rep. Brittany Pettersen –HD28- (303) 866-2939
Email (brittany.pettersen.house@state.co.us) – Facebook (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/11784352:14843089195:m:1:206043978:B178BBDE64A341C 2427590D72A1590E5:r) - Twitter (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/11784353:14843089195:m:1:206043978:B178BBDE64A341C 2427590D72A1590E5:r)
[*=left]Rep. Max Tyler –HD23- (303) 866-2918
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[*=left]Rep. Joe Salazar –HD31- (303) 866-2951
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Please BE POLITE! Angry, mean or otherwise threatening language will only prove the wrong-headed assumptions of the gun control advocates. As mother used to say, you can attract a lot more bees with honey than vinegar.

I will get on it just as soon as I post this thread. And, thank you for pitching-in and making sure our voices are heard.

Take care - JVC

[brobar]

I'm surprised Rape Whistle Salazar is considered a potential swing vote.

I've emailed so many times... I'm sure they have me set up on their spam filter. And if they are anything like the Senate... they are being persuaded NOT to look at their email or check their messages until these proceedings are over. "It will weigh on your psyche" is the excuse but we all know the leaders are telling them to do that so there will be less potential to be convinced / swayed.

I'll send out one more in a couple of days... but I am losing hope from a legislative standpoint!

[JVC]

Sorry, here are the emails: max@maxtyler.us, joseph.salazar.house@state.co.us, pete.lee.house@state.co.us, Mike.mclachlan.house@state.co.us, Diane.mitschbush.house@state.co.us, dominick.moreno.house@state.co.us, brittany.pettersen.house@state.co.us,

[JVC]

I can appreciate the emotional fatigue that goes into this effort, and for sure the lawmakers are feeling it too. That is why a particularly polite request might get through the cracks of frustration, anger and other negative emotions. We, and they, have yelled, screamed or otherwise honked our opposition. Now that they have seen how this tide of opposition is rising, some of the reps may change their minds, but not if we prove that we are "crazy/stupid/ignorant gun nuts" like they assume we are. They need to know they can trust us, even though we can't necessarily trust them. Sorry it may have come down to that, but I just sent this email to all of the above:

Please vote NO on HB1224

Dear Rep. XXXXXXXX:

Please vote "NO" on HB1224. This bill will not prevent or mitigate the next tragedy. From my perspective, it is a case of collective punishment for the actions of a tiny, mentally-ill minority. Our efforts would be better served getting these people the treatment and resources they need, for all of our sakes.

I am hopeful that time has given you more time to evaluate the efficacy of this bill and its unintended consquences.

With respect,

JVC
Douglas County, Colorado

[newracer]

DON"T STOP THE PRESSURE!!!!!

I emailed all the house Ds telling them this is the chance to correct their initial mistake.

[Blowby]

Done!


Colorado House Representatives,

A second chance of voting against HB 1224 is an option I see to not limit the legal citizens of Colorado to own and possess items that will not infringe on our rights. As a resident, small business owner and citizen of this country I am asking you not pass HB 1224 being pushed through with amendments and no constitutional backing.

I contribute to this state, in close to 5 million in sales per year that are taxed, and deserve a voice in how this vote will affect the country. Our founding fathers specifically placed the verbiage "Shall not be infringed" to protect the rights of the people on this issue. Limiting firearm supporting items is just as devastating to our ability to uphold the 2nd amendment.

I know pressure is placed upon you from government leaders but we the people of Colorado rely on your decision to lead us to a free and prosperous future.

Please vote "No" on HB 1224 for the future of a safe and protected America.

[MarkCO]

[Beer] You are all doing the right thing, even if we lose this battle...

Three things should be clear...

1. Always vote Pro-Gun
2. This will be a lifelong political battle
3. Common sense, Integrity and Freedom must also be fought for.

[Holger Danske]

The Denver Post has an article (cant post link from my phone) that quotes Mike McLacan D Durango as saying he has not made his mind up on the bill. Isn't he the guy they told in a town hall meeting that there would be a recall started for him?

Keep writing McLachlan and let him know we want a no vote

[mrghost]

Is this House vote today or when?

[mtnrider]

Emails sent.

[Bailey Guns]

I'm running out of electrons....

[roberth]

Sorry, here are the emails: max@maxtyler.us, joseph.salazar.house@state.co.us, pete.lee.house@state.co.us, Mike.mclachlan.house@state.co.us, Diane.mitschbush.house@state.co.us, dominick.moreno.house@state.co.us, brittany.pettersen.house@state.co.us,

Thank you.

[bigshane]

The Denver Post has an article (cant post link from my phone) that quotes Mike McLacan D Durango as saying he has not made his mind up on the bill. Isn't he the guy they told in a town hall meeting that there would be a recall started for him?

Keep writing McLachlan and let him know we want a no vote

From the article (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22768121/colorado-senate-passes-raft-gun-bills-house-democrat):


Though Democrats hold a 20-15 majority in the Senate, the bill passed with an 18-17 vote. Democratic Sens. Lois Tochtrop of Thornton and Cheri Jahn of Wheat Ridge joined Republicans in voting against the bill. The Senate amended the bill, and it must go back to the House, where one Democrat who supported it earlier now says he's undecided on it.

Rep. Mike McLachlan, D-Durango, who proposed the amendment in the House that increases the bill's limit from 10 to 15 rounds, on Monday said he's undecided as to whether he'll again support the measure as it returns to the House, where it passed on a 34-31 vote. The bill needs 33 votes to pass in the House.

"I haven't made up my mind on it," McLachlan said.

[bellavite1]

Done.

[lowbeyond]

That traitor McLachlan is a lying sack of shit. He voted for it in committee and voted for it twice more in the second and third reading

It was his amendment in committee to set the limit at 15. He called it reasonable. He also voted against the amendment to set the limit at 30.

He is lying

[hatidua]

done did

[Teufelhund]

That traitor McLachlan is a lying sack of shit. He voted for it in committee and voted for it twice more in the second and third reading

It was his amendment in committee to set the limit at 15. He called it reasonable. He also voted against the amendment to set the limit at 30.

He is lying

This. His recall has already been filed. He's already been handed the grievance. He's trying to save his job in a last ditch effort. If it makes him vote against this bill, I'll take it.

Emails sent. Again.

[bigshane]

BTW, I believe him about at much as I believe that ASStronaut-Mark bought an AR-15 to hand over to the PD, but the quote/link was requested.

[mtnhack]

This. His recall has already been filed. He's already been handed the grievance. He's trying to save his job in a last ditch effort. If it makes him vote against this bill, I'll take it. Emails sent. Again.If anything, it would be another colluding effort by those F#$% to let him vote against it, but have it pass by a 33-32 count. That way he could speak against the greivance, "see, I voted against it. What are you guys talking about?"

[two shoes]

Here is what I sent:

Subject: Size doesn't matter, or so I've been told...

Representatives,

I ask that you watch the following video that precisely addresses the Senator from Aurora's “reload” time of 11 seconds. Please take the few minutes to view it and draw your own conclusions.

Truth about magazines (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=b2Upjn5DR0o)


Kind regards,


-two shoes

[JVC]

I don't know when the next vote on HB1224 is scheduled, but I will research it. My guess is later this week.

[MED]

I think we should just bombard Hippypooper and shut down his email and phones. The Senate was our best hope and that is gone.

[mrghost]

Hello All,

Since you are following this forum, you are probably aware that HB1224 passed the Senate by a razor-thin margin of 18-17. Two common sense Democrats (Sens. Tochtrop and XXXX) voted against the bill. The bill was amended, which means it goes back to the House for another vote.

The odds are slim that we will win this one, however, it seems this world is one of second chances. The amendment cracks open the door of opportunity. Perhaps some of the House representatives who watched the fierce opposition to the bill in the Senate debates may have changed their minds.

From RMGO:

Call and write these representatives today and tell them you want them to vote NO on HB 1224:



[*=left]Rep. Pete Lee–HD18- (303) 866-2932
Email (pete.lee.house@state.co.us) – Facebook (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/11784345:14843089195:m:1:206043978:B178BBDE64A341C 2427590D72A1590E5:r) - Twitter (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/11784346:14843089195:m:1:206043978:B178BBDE64A341C 2427590D72A1590E5:r)
[*=left]Rep. Mike McLachlan –HD59- (303) 866-2914
Email (Mike.mclachlan.house@state.co.us) – Facebook (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/11784347:14843089195:m:1:206043978:B178BBDE64A341C 2427590D72A1590E5:r) - Twitter (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/11784348:14843089195:m:1:206043978:B178BBDE64A341C 2427590D72A1590E5:r)
[*=left]Rep. Diane Mitsch Bush –HD26- (303) 866-2923
Email (Diane.mitschbush.house@state.co.us) – Facebook (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/11784349:14843089195:m:1:206043978:B178BBDE64A341C 2427590D72A1590E5:r)

[*=left]Rep. Dominick Moreno –HD32-(303) 866-2964
Email (dominick.moreno.house@state.co.us) – Facebook (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/11784350:14843089195:m:1:206043978:B178BBDE64A341C 2427590D72A1590E5:r) - Twitter (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/11784351:14843089195:m:1:206043978:B178BBDE64A341C 2427590D72A1590E5:r)
[*=left]Rep. Brittany Pettersen –HD28- (303) 866-2939
Email (brittany.pettersen.house@state.co.us) – Facebook (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/11784352:14843089195:m:1:206043978:B178BBDE64A341C 2427590D72A1590E5:r) - Twitter (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/11784353:14843089195:m:1:206043978:B178BBDE64A341C 2427590D72A1590E5:r)
[*=left]Rep. Max Tyler –HD23- (303) 866-2918
Email (max@maxtyler.us) – Facebook (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/11784354:14843089195:m:1:206043978:B178BBDE64A341C 2427590D72A1590E5:r) - Twitter (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/11784355:14843089195:m:1:206043978:B178BBDE64A341C 2427590D72A1590E5:r)
[*=left]Rep. Joe Salazar –HD31- (303) 866-2951
Email (joseph.salazar.house@state.co.us) – Facebook (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/11784356:14843089195:m:1:206043978:B178BBDE64A341C 2427590D72A1590E5:r) - Twitter (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/11784357:14843089195:m:1:206043978:B178BBDE64A341C 2427590D72A1590E5:r)



Please BE POLITE! Angry, mean or otherwise threatening language will only prove the wrong-headed assumptions of the gun control advocates. As mother used to say, you can attract a lot more bees with honey than vinegar.

I will get on it just as soon as I post this thread. And, thank you for pitching-in and making sure our voices are heard.

Take care - JVC




Emailed, but added the following contacts per the recommendation in the NRA email I got today:

Daniel Kagan (D-03)
repkagan@gmail.com
303-866-2921

Jonathan Singer (D-11)
jonathan.singer.house@state.co.us
303-866-2780

Dave Young (D-50)
dave.young.house@state.co.us
303-866-2929

Tony Exum (D-17)
thomas.exum.house@state.co.us
303-866-3069

[SouthPaw]

Done and done. Keep up the pressure!

[Teufelhund]

Emailed, but added the following contacts per the recommendation in the NRA email I got today:

Daniel Kagan (D-03)
repkagan@gmail.com
303-866-2921

Jonathan Singer (D-11)
jonathan.singer.house@state.co.us
303-866-2780

Dave Young (D-50)
dave.young.house@state.co.us
303-866-2929

Tony Exum (D-17)
thomas.exum.house@state.co.us
303-866-3069

Emailed them too. I sent a slightly edited version of JVC's letter:


Dear Representative,

Please vote "NO" on HB1224. This bill will not prevent or mitigate the next tragedy. This bill does nothing to offer a greater measure of safety to Coloradans. It does nothing to influence the actions of a tiny, mentally-ill minority. Our efforts and tax-dollars would be better spent getting these people the treatment and resources they need.

I am hopeful that time has given you the opportunity to evaluate the efficacy of this bill and its unintended consequences.

Respectfully,

Jason
Arapahoe County, Colorado

[Teufelhund]

Consolidated for easier C&P.

max@maxtyler.us (max@maxtyler.us), joseph.salazar.house@state.co.us, pete.lee.house@state.co.us, Mike.mclachlan.house@state.co.us, Diane.mitschbush.house@state.co.us, dominick.moreno.house@state.co.us, brittany.pettersen.house@state.co.us, repkagan@gmail.com, jonathan.singer.house@state.co.us, dave.young.house@state.co.us, thomas.exum.house@state.co.us

[mtnrider]

Sent 4 more emails.

I changed up my email a little but basically said the same thing. I asked that we take party politics out of the equation and lets focus our efforts and money on mental health isses where it may do some good.

.

[The Rat]

Email sent, though more and more it feels like pissing in the wind. Gotta try regardless.

[Ronin13]

Not to be a downer, but it does kind of seem to me that many of these people, such as "my" (I didn't vote for the woman) senator, Mrs. Nicholson, don't really give two shits what their constituency thinks or wants and will do as they please (or as have been dictated by their party- *cough*Democrats*cough*) and that our letters and words fall on deaf ears. I sent an email to her this morning expressing my disappointment and desire to see that she is not re-elected come next year. I doubt I'll get a response, but at least now she knows that I think she sucks. I hope I'm wrong, but I really don't see these spineless "party/conscious vote" people being swayed by a few hundred thousand of the people that they serve asking them to vote no. I would like to forward the motion of "no confidence" in the Democrats in our state General assembly, and have them removed from power post haste.

[mrghost]

I make sure my Subject line says "Vote NO on HBxxxx" so the gist of the message is more likely to be seen even if they're just going through and pounding the delete key.

[Teufelhund]

Email sent, though more and more it feels like pissing in the wind. Gotta try regardless.

I absolutely agree. Our massive email/fax/letter/honking campaigns have resulted in absolutely nothing. We made our voices heard, and they just don't care.

Keep writing regardless; when they ask indignantly, "Why am I being recalled?" or "Why am I being removed from office under charges of Treason and/or violation of my Oath of Office?" we can start by saying, "Because we spoke up and gave you a chance to represent us, and you ignored us."

[The Rat]

Yep, no question there. Gotta go with what avenues we can, and when those are clearly exhausted, go with that recall effort stuff. I'm quite ready for the recalls to start kicking off already.

[mrghost]

Yep, no question there. Gotta go with what avenues we can, and when those are clearly exhausted, go with that recall effort stuff. I'm quite ready for the recalls to start kicking off already.

Looking forward to recalls as needed. I have been wanting to move out of CO for a few years now, but I don't want this place turning into California or New York while I'm still here. And I'll say again, they're counting on CO to "fall" to get some momentum at the federal level, so fleeing to other free states may only be a temporary solution if this BS isn't stopped hard at every attempt.

[Jeff350]

Well I wrote them all. Not expecting it to do anything but I can at least say I didn't sit idly by while our freedom was stripped from us.

[lowbeyond]

Note again that McLachlan voted Aye on the re-passage.

[Rooskibar03]

Passed. Time to blow up Hick, not that it will matter.

[MED]

Passed. Time to .... Hick, not that it will matter.

You might want to re-word [oops]