View Full Version : Denver Post Running a Poll About The Proposed Ballot Initiative That Would Repeal The Magazine Ban
http://www.denverpost.com/index.html?_requestid=3166557&_requestid=2610247
Go and vote.
Deny them yet another data point that would let them claim that we're in the minority.
Dupe
http://www.ar-15.co/threads/94337-Hit-this-Poll
Blockhead
03-14-2013, 22:29
Kudos for a descriptive title, but....
http://www.ar-15.co/threads/94337-Hit-this-Poll
BPTactical
03-14-2013, 22:30
Do tell........
6886 in support of initiative
1606 against the initiative
55 need their food chewed for them
JMBD2112
03-14-2013, 22:56
55 need their food chewed for them
[LOL]
yep
10mm-man
03-14-2013, 23:23
How many times did you guys vote:
7049 Votes, or 80.67 %
Slapps74
03-14-2013, 23:36
Just once. [Beer]
Kraven251
03-15-2013, 07:45
Just once. [Beer]
This isn't the Presidential race in Chicago...come on!
Byte Stryke
03-15-2013, 07:53
For. I oppose the limit and would vote to overturn the bill. 8636 Votes, or 80.89 %
Against. I support the limit and would vote to uphold the bill. 1965 Votes, or 18.40 %
Unsure. I haven't decided yet. 74 Votes, or 0.693 %
mahabali
03-15-2013, 08:09
Hit.
jreifsch80
03-15-2013, 08:13
voted for opposing the ban i like the yugo mag and ammo in the picture lol
ChuckNorris
03-15-2013, 08:30
Voted!
Thanks for posting that.
Boulderar15
03-15-2013, 09:04
For--9,726. 80.68%
Against--2,238. 18.56%
pretty impressive results from a liberal rag like dp
hope the idiots at the capital start to listen!!!
And it will fall on deaf liberal ears.
buffalobo
03-15-2013, 09:52
Bet they don't run the results in the Sunday print version.
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whichfinger
03-15-2013, 10:38
Hit.
Somebody just ran a script to boost the "Against" numbers. I saw nearly 700 hits (progressively... about 40-50 per minute) until they reached 3,000 hits and then it stopped! It took about 20-25 minutes and then the hits went back to just 2 or 3 a minute.
hhhmmmmmm
[let me redact that]
muddywings
03-15-2013, 11:21
rehit from my work computer
Cylinder Head
03-15-2013, 11:22
Somebody just ran a script to boost the "Against" numbers. I saw nearly 700 hits (progressively... about 40-50 per minute) until they reached 3,000 hits and then it stopped! It took about 20-25 minutes and then the hits went back to just 2 or 3 a minute.
hhhmmmmmm
[let me redact that]
i wouldn't be surprised if it isn't the post themselves trying to swing things more to their flaming lib side.
chewdawg07
03-15-2013, 11:24
hit from home this morning and again from work
Firehaus
03-15-2013, 11:52
Voted. Amazing to see 80% for recall and still see these laws being voted yes on be democrats.
The script is being run again RIGHT NOW. As soon as we reached 80% again!
hunterhawk
03-15-2013, 12:20
Voted!
robertcolorado2009
03-15-2013, 12:25
BROBAR, how are you able to see that happening?
BROBAR, how are you able to see that happening?
I just keep refreshing the results page and you can see them shooting up at a pace of 2-3 votes per second. In less than 10 minutes we went from 80% down to now in the 77-78% range.
I'm watching it to see if they stop the script at around the next thousand mark (4,000). That is what they did when they ran it earlier... they stopped it at around the 3,000 mark.
I figured out a way to vote more than once... but I can't keep up with their script.
They aren't stopping at the nearest 1,000 this time... they seem to be going for broke!
robertcolorado2009
03-15-2013, 12:42
it take my pc at work here about 15 seconds to refresh/reload. I thought that might be how you were doing it. It just feels to slow to observe that. But if you got enough patience. I don't :-)
I figured out the pace by checking it out every few minutes and then dividing by however many seconds it was since the last time I refreshed.
"IF" you are voting multiple times please use a VPN to change your IP address. Otherwise they will call this a rigged poll because one guy from one IP address voted 3K times,I can picture them saying that to discredit gun owners. Just don't give them the ammo to shoot back at us.
robertcolorado2009
03-15-2013, 12:51
I have been monitoring it also and the against are about 3-1 to the fors continuously. I refreshed it 8 times and it was consistently more against than for, and the undecided moved 1 vote that entire time. Something is fishy here.
I saw this happen too. We were at 81%, and then i just saw it wind down, in a matter of minutes, down to 75%. It's still sinking *by the second*. 300 "against overturn" votes in 30 seconds. The script for them to do this would be very easy to do. I would like to think we could stay on top without resorting to dirty tricks, though.... (As I typed this last line, 'against overturn' gained 47 votes.)
One thing to understand here. If this kind of business is going on, then we can bet that thousands of emails went to Hick in the same way.
Rooskibar03
03-15-2013, 12:54
I have been monitoring it also and the against are about 3-1 to the fors continuously. I refreshed it 8 times and it was consistently more against than for, and the undecided moved 1 vote that entire time. Something is fishy here.
I will say the progressive readers are DPO come out in spurts. Want to make your eyes bleed read the comments on some of the articles. It will go for pages with common sense people in the am and then come afternoon the progressives come out the comments turn against, almost like clockwork.
If that's true, 100+ of them are coming out a minute. Take a look for yourself. This began in earnest about an hour ago; we were in the 80-81% range since late last night. Still sinking by the second.
Cylinder Head
03-15-2013, 13:01
Somebody is definitely cheatin' for the libs.
This could be one hipster kid in an IT department doing this. DP may be none the wiser. Course if we were to do it, it'd be reported that the "EVIL GUN LOBBY USES CYBER WARFARE TO SWAY somethingsomething."
Cylinder Head
03-15-2013, 13:11
This could be one hipster kid in an IT department doing this. DP may be none the wiser. Course if we were to do it, it'd be reported that the "EVIL GUN LOBBY USES CYBER WARFARE TO SWAY somethingsomething."
No doubt this is some CU Boulder douchebag smoking a bowl and trying to stick it to the evil gun rednecks
Who really fucking cares if it's one person? We've got people on this board suggesting how you can vote multiple times.
And the opposition to the initiative is still massively outnumbered.
Yeah... I think it is pretty clear. It went on for about 20 minutes and when I tried to counter it... it stopped for about an hour. But they started it back up and are going even faster now. I can't counter it on my own. And like NYNCO said... since I'm not behind a firewall... they will probably be giving me a call a bit later. hehe So I'm gonna stop trying to counter it and just let it go. I can't keep up with 'em by myself!
Yeah... I think it is pretty clear. It went on for about 20 minutes and when I tried to counter it... it stopped for about an hour. But they started it back up and are going even faster now. I can't counter it on my own. And like NYNCO said... since I'm not behind a firewall... they will probably be giving me a call a bit later. hehe So I'm gonna stop trying to counter it and just let it go. I can't keep up with 'em by myself!
Yeah, the pro-1224 votes are coming in now at just a bit over exactly 1 per second, at a constant pace, no interruption. Running some math, if this doesn't stop, the poll will be at 50/50 in about 4 hours. By the end of the workday the entire picture will be reversed, most likely.
And, of course, it'll be waved around as a victory.
I have a VPN but for some reason my HMA account is having a hard time locking on the Denver servers. That happens during business hours.
Yep. Wouldn't surprise me if they let it run until it flip-flops to 80 in their favor, 20 in our favor and then have a firestorm of emails to Hick saying "see... the people are in favor of this" RIGHT BEFORE he signs it! Sneaky little bastards!!!
This site has turned into a fucking tinfoil party.
well we do have evidence they are out to get us :)
No on this one ridge, its very easy for a firm that is hired to hit their servers with a script to flip the count. The fact that this poll is staying up for this long indicates that someone is trying to change the results and the poll will stay until they get what they want. All the other denver post polls last 1 day.
I don't know about that nynco... the concealed carry on college campus poll has been up for a week (heavily in our favor). Doesn't mean they won't hit that one next after they are done with this one... but you can still vote on it at the moment.
I could be wrong, I don't pay attention to the polls all the time. I only go to them when you all call for us to do our part.
Denver Post polls can stick around for days. They usually cover hot topics or sporting events. Since there is only March Madness going on now, that leaves the hot topics. And since this whole thing is going on at this very moment, it makes sense that it has lasted. Especially since the thing only went up ~15 hours ago. Less than a day.
If you go to the following page: http://www.denverpost.com/opinionpolls?source=Subnav_Op_Polls
You'll see 8 polls. They keep 8 polls on there at any time. When a new poll gets put on the front page... the 8th (and oldest) poll drops off. You can vote on any of the 8 polls until that last one drops off (meaning a new one has been added). The way they prevent multiple votes from a single person is through cookies. The easiest way to circumvent that is through Safari... (BEFORE you load the page in safari... go into the settings and change it to where it denies all cookies... then turn on "private browsing"... then you can vote as many times as you want. If you want to take it to the next level... have several tabs... tabbing through each once to click the radio button... tabbing through each again to submit... rinse and repeat).
So they either have a script that is doing this for them dynamically... or they've got a dozen or so people just doing it non stop. My guess is a script because they sure haven't tired in these past couple of hours.
The sustained pace that the votes are coming in makes it pretty clear what's going on. Check it at 1 minute periods. The gains in the 'pro-1224' votes will be almost identical every minute. The (lower) gains in the anti-1224 votes are varied and sporadic. -- trust me, i'm a big skeptic on "tinfoil hat" stuff. This poll has shifted 10% in the last hour, and the pace isn't varying. There's no "conspiracy", but there might be, as I said, some hipster kid in an IT department who thinks he's saving the world.
Today I learned someone actually uses Safari...
Today I learned someone actually uses Safari...
You can do the same thing in Chrome by going into your cookie settings and selecting "Block sites from setting any data" and then bringing up a "New Incognito Window".
Chrome is my browser of choice... I just found it faster to do in Safari.
Cylinder Head
03-15-2013, 13:50
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http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d82/youreallclones/f8cc1887785a5607bd57a0ce0ae43e7a_zps4286fa58.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d82/youreallclones/f10d6b11b6c8033733403e283e5a4d44_zps73be2c70.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d82/youreallclones/3203d8de2475e3c4f510739818a93d13_zpse315eba4.jpg
Took these grabs a while ago.
Took these grabs a while ago.
Yeah... at the pace they are going... we would need at least half a dozen guys going non-stop... maybe even a dozen to counter it.
Yeah... at the pace they are going... we would need at least half a dozen guys going non-stop... maybe even a dozen to counter it.
You have a poll on there that has been open for a week... and it has half the votes of a poll that has only been open for a day? I don't think you need a tin foil hat to see what is going on there.
Oh well... you either fight fire with fire. Or you let it run its course. IF you fight fire with fire... you run the risk of them saying "see... it is rigged".
EDIT: I did not mean to quote myself. hehe
I really hope the Hick doesn't put much value on a DP poll. Anything that open to abuse is only for fun.
While I don't think poll numbers would sway him either way... don't think for a second he wouldn't use those numbers to help justify his vote if the numbers were in his favor! If the dems can use an almost 2 decade old poll in their argument in favor of universal background checks simply because the results were in their favor... I'm sure they would continue to play that game!
OtterbatHellcat
03-15-2013, 15:09
Well, I think the Post sucks, it always has....I was a RMN guy myself. Even if the poll won't be taken seriously by anybody important, I voted anyways.
osok-308
03-15-2013, 15:14
I voted!
I would think that even if you clear cookies that the poll could be recording IP address. So just doing that may still be traceable due to IP.
I would think that even if you clear cookies that the poll could be recording IP address. So just doing that may still be traceable due to IP.
Agree. It depends on how they have the polls setup. For a simple, quick, easy to design poll... they could be using the cookies as the "fail safe" and just incrementing the number in a database based on a vote. If they want to throw in security so they can do reporting (break down a poll based on demographic, location, etc...) then they would be logging multiple things to a database that goes along with each vote... and that would be IP, type of browser, type of OS, time, etc...
My guess is that they are probably doing the latter if their programmers are worth their salt... but if they are lazy then it very well could be the former. Access logs will still show the ladder even if they aren't storing vote info in a database.
GilpinGuy
03-15-2013, 15:46
We're winning by almost 10,000 votes! A giant [fyou]to the Post.
Let's make it 20,000!
sneakerd
03-15-2013, 15:52
Voted. Keep it up guys, VOTE NOW- KICK THEIR LIBERAL ASSES!
Well, I think the Post sucks, it always has....I was a RMN guy myself. Even if the poll won't be taken seriously by anybody important, I voted anyways.
Same. I was legitimately saddened the day a guy showed up where I worked with a handtruck and wheeled away their newsstand.
We were winning 80-20
now we are only up 69-30 and falling fast.
hunterhawk
03-15-2013, 17:00
I think they dropped the poll? And put up a new one? I was wondering what it ended at
OtterbatHellcat
03-15-2013, 17:03
They did drop it, and started a new one. Someone mentioned earlier in the thread about page 8 still has polls going on it....if I read that correctly.
They put up a new one on the home page... but the one regarding HB 1224 and 7 others are all still up and running here:
http://www.denverpost.com/opinionpolls
we've dropped another percent since I last checked.
Their script (or group) pounding the poll is running double speed compared to earlier this afternoon. They are picking up a percent about every 10-15 minutes now. They'll catch up in a few hours.
Cylinder Head
03-15-2013, 17:49
They put up a new one on the home page... but the one regarding HB 1224 and 7 others are all still up and running here:
http://www.denverpost.com/opinionpolls
we've dropped another percent since I last checked.
Their script (or group) pounding the poll is running double speed compared to earlier this afternoon. They are picking up a percent about every 10-15 minutes now. They'll catch up in a few hours.
This is total bullshit, they've gotten thousands of votes out of nowhere, and you can bet its sanctioned by the lefties at the post
Someone probably linked the poll at Huffpost.
It's a nonscientific poll that doesn't mean squat.
Sent from my tactical android.
I would think that even if you clear cookies that the poll could be recording IP address. So just doing that may still be traceable due to IP.
It is through cookies. I trashed mine and could vote again.
It is through cookies. I trashed mine and could vote again.
In IE..
Tools -> Internet Options -> Privacy -> Sites -> denverpost.com -> block.
It looks like they’re getting about 4 votes per sec.
Cylinder Head
03-15-2013, 18:21
It's accelerating again there are a hundred votes every few minutes.
Someone probably linked the poll at Huffpost.
It's a nonscientific poll that doesn't mean squat.
Sent from my tactical android.
Watch Hickenlooper use it as a justification for signing the bill...
Who cares what this rigged poll says, the recall/2014 election will tell the truth.
Great-Kazoo
03-15-2013, 18:37
Watch Hickenlooper use it as a justification for signing the bill...
IF ANY of you believe HICK has any feelings one way or the other regarding polls of any kind give it a rest. The entire Gun Control debate was rigged from the get go. Minds were made up, wording of laws were scripted by bloomberg, etc etc. The fat lady has sung accept your fate and do what you feel is necessary regarding any gun law signed 7/1/2013.
Judging from a lot of board members post / replies i have no doubt 15-30% of you will fall lock step in line. Another 15-20% will, if not alread,y be selling your evil guns, just because you're weak and have no back bone. The rest of us, well we've been through it before and will over come obstacles.
rockhound
03-15-2013, 18:49
i voted, the votes on our side are huge, how the f... did these guys get elected in this state?
Boulderar15
03-15-2013, 18:49
Well, I think the Post sucks, it always has....I was a RMN guy myself. Even if the poll won't be taken seriously by anybody important, I voted anyways.
Me too. Miss the layout. Was awesome to read on the shitter!
Great-Kazoo
03-15-2013, 19:02
i voted, the votes on our side are huge, how the f... did these guys get elected in this state?
SHITTY R OPPONENTS, SHITTY R OPPONENTS, Low R turn out, LOTS OF SENSIBLE GUN OWNERS WHO VOTED D . Stupid idiotic gun owners who believed and still do O and the D's WOULD NEVER TAKE AWAY GUNS AND OR GUN RIGHTS.
You can count the members here on 1 and 1/2 hands. Of course there are a few liberal sleeper cells as members too. so say an easy 10 maybe 15
It looks like they’re getting about 4 votes per sec.
It's accelerating again there are a hundred votes every few minutes.
Yep... when they started it this afternoon, they were getting about a vote a second. Later... that doubled to 2 votes a second. It appears now it is about 3-4 votes per second. That makes me think script that was installed on multiple machines. Each time it doubled in speed... there was half an hour to an hour lull right before it did.
If I had to guess... some script kiddies at the computer lab on CU Boulder campus. Just a hunch.
The sad thing is they used one of these polls against us in one the senate hearings.
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