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SuperiorDG
03-15-2013, 11:43
What a dumb ass.

Filmmaker Michael Moore’s suggestion that showing crime scene photos of the children slain at Sandy Hook will hasten the demise of the National Rifle Association is not getting rave reviews in the shattered Connecticut community.
The left-wing social critic wrote in his blog Wednesday an item titled "America, You Must Not Look Away (How to Finish Off the NRA)," in which he recommended releasing the undoubtedly gruesome photos of the 20 children killed on Dec. 14, 2012, some of whom were shot up to 11 times. Moore said the fact that Americans have “done nothing to revise or repeal” the Second Amendment “makes us responsible.”
“ … and that is why we must look at the pictures of the 20 dead children laying (sic) with what's left of their bodies on the classroom floor in Newtown, Connecticut.”
Moore predicted a parent of a child killed in the horrific elementary school massacre or another high-profile mass shooting would make pictures available, adding “and then nothing about guns in this country will ever be the same again.”

“For the families and the community, we just want to get back to a normal life and that would be a horrendous offense to the families."- Dorrie Carolan, Newtown Parent Connection

Jeremy Richman, whose 6-year-old daughter Avielle was killed in the attack by gunman Adam Lanza — a 20-year-old, mentally-troubled local man who later killed himself as police responded — said Moore’s idea is off-base.
“I would be very strongly against that,” an incredulous Richman said when being informed of Moore’s idea.
Another parent of a 6-year-old boy killed in the attack, in Newtown, Conn., was upset that such an idea would be proposed.
“You can imagine what my reaction to that is,” the outraged mom said, declining any further comment.
Several other parents of young victims declined to comment when reached by FoxNews.com. Attempts to reach Veronique Pozner, who took Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy by the hand to show him her son's body at his open-casket funeral in December, were unsuccessful.
Pozner later told a reporter that she "owed it" to her son, the youngest of the Newtown victims, when asked why she wanted Malloy to see the damage to Noah Pozner's body.
"I owed it to him as his mother — the good, the bad, the ugly," Pozner told the Stamford Advocate. "It is not up to me to say I am only going to look at you and deal with you when you are alive, that I am going to block out the reality of what you look like when you are dead. And as a little boy, you have to go in the ground. If I am going to shut my eyes to that I am not his mother. I had to bear it. I had to do it."
Moore’s proposal would be a “horrendous offense” to relatives of the Sandy Hook tragedy, Dorrie Carolan, co-president of the Newtown Parent Connection, told FoxNews.com.
“For the families and the community, we just want to get back to a normal life and that would be a horrendous offense to the families,” Carolan said. “There’s no need for any of that.”
Carolan, who knows several of the victim’s families, said she could not imagine anyone connected to the mass shooting who would consider Moore’s idea to be a “positive” development.
“It’s going to be a long healing process and to dredge up pictures of the crime scene would not be a good thing,” she told FoxNews.com. “We want to remember the little angels as they were, with their happy expressions and faces and you want to think of the teachers trying to hold them safe and not to see the pictures of their bodies. I think it would be terrible.”
Most of the families in the “very, very close” community have begun participating again in activities in and around Newtown, Carolan said, but the cyclical grief process is far from over.
“When you see the families, you want to acknowledge them, you want to hug them, but you don’t want to pry,” she said. “You don’t want to bring it up to them. So nobody really knows what to do. Nobody really knows what we should be doing … But to dredge up pictures would just take us backwards.”
In the weeks following the attack, several parents spoke out on the gun debate, with many saying the shootings cried out for new gun control laws and others saying such measures were not the answer.
When Neil Heslin, whose son Jesse was among the victims, spoke at a Connecticut legislative hearing on gun control, he challenged those in attendance to explain why citizens should be allowed to own assault weapons.
“Not one person can answer that question,” he said, after beseeching the crowd to reply.
When a member of the audience answered: ”Second Amendment shall not be infringed,” several media outlets reported that the distraught father had been “heckled” by gun rights advocates, though the videotape showed that was not the case.
FoxNews.com's Perry Chiaramonte contributed to this report.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/15/newtown-parents-residents-blast-moore-crime-scene-photo-proposal/#ixzz2NdDLTuEb

Ronin13
03-15-2013, 11:49
Michael Moore- just like Piers, standing on the graves of dead children to try to gain support... What a fucking piece of human waste. I don't wish harm to befall many, but Michael Moore (along with a certain person who resembles a troll that hails from CA but currently works in D.C., and a woman that is married to a very high ranking person in the executive branch) really needs to be hit by an out of control semi, then have it back up over him on it's way to investigate what exactly happened.

LigersRCool
03-15-2013, 11:49
Michael Moore just felt that people had forgotten about him...he must have some movie coming out soon.

Ah Pook
03-15-2013, 11:52
This from the man who won a debate with a bowl of Jello. [Roll1]

BigDee
03-15-2013, 11:54
Moore is an idiot.

Troublco
03-15-2013, 11:54
If ever someone personified the definition of "Oxygen Thief", it is Michael Moore. He does have some strong competition for the award, however; Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, Schumer, Bloomberg, ad nauseam.

blacklabel
03-15-2013, 11:55
Odd, thinking about that makes me want to arm every person that interacts with my son. Evil won't cease to exist because we remove an inanimate object so we must take it upon ourselves to defend against it.

Anyone that believes differently is a damn fool.

hatidua
03-15-2013, 11:59
Moore is an idiot.

That's highly unfair and constitutes slander to countless respectable idiots everywhere. Don't raise Moore to their level.

jhood001
03-15-2013, 11:59
Pretty twisted. Even for Moore.

I believe he is wrong about what impact releasing any pictures will have. They aren't going to sway a parent that isn't already for a ban on firearms. Nor will it sway a parent that is for their child being properly protected by a firearm. All it will do is motivate both groups even more.

I believe Moore just wants access to the imagery for his next film or speaking tour because of the shock value they'll have. Those images are dollar signs for him.

Teufelhund
03-15-2013, 12:16
Moore has always had this misguided mentality. He epitomizes the idiotic progressive who thinks everyone would live forever if we could only pass enough laws.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdyKAIhLdNs

Troublco
03-15-2013, 12:26
Moore appears to be a High Capacity Liberal. (Or, he's just a fat, stupid, cunning bastard.) We should ban him. It's for the children...and everyone else.

losttrail
03-15-2013, 13:08
Michael Moore is another one of those few worthy of:

The best part of Michael Moore ran down his daddy's leg in the shower.

SuperiorDG
03-15-2013, 13:18
This is just classic

DR. KEITH ABLOW: Moore’s flawed rationale means his photo would motivate public against obesity

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/03/15/dr-keith-ablow-moores-flawed-rationale-means-his-photo-would-motivate-public/#ixzz2NdbHKHcS

Dave
03-15-2013, 13:26
Always an embarrassment to those of us from Michigan. And to Eagle Scouts.

mtnhack
03-15-2013, 13:50
Michael Moore- just like Piers, standing on the graves of dead children to try to gain support... What a fucking piece of human waste. I don't wish harm to befall many, but Michael Moore (along with a certain person who resembles a troll that hails from CA but currently works in D.C., and a woman that is married to a very high ranking person in the executive branch) really needs to be hit by an out of control semi, then have it back up over him on it's way to investigate what exactly happened.And also just like our own Sen. Johnston (denver) during the 1224 testimony/non-debate. Fucking ass-clowns, one and all.
Ps. This seems very familiar. What was it? Oh yeah. The pro-lifers printing out large posters of aborted fetus and showing that shit to everyone who happened to glance their way.

Rooskibar03
03-15-2013, 13:52
Someone needs to punch Moore square in the nuts. That is all.

Skully
03-15-2013, 15:42
Someone needs to punch Moore square in the nuts. That is all.


................ only if you could find them under all that flubb............. [Coffee]

nynco
03-15-2013, 15:47
I attribute this to the vast majority of people not having the fortitude to understand what triage is and why it is necessary. This is coming from a conversation that has dragged on for over 400 posts on my FB page of me battling my liberal friends (and winning). They scream about people dying. I am pretty open with the fact that the purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to prevent a tyrannical gov from coming into being. So to me seeing the bodies of kids does nothing because I can picture mass graves the size of small towns too. I chose the greater good here. Which means some people die. Which is part of living in a free society.

GilpinGuy
03-15-2013, 15:53
Moore is truly a despicable human.

Ronin13
03-15-2013, 15:54
I attribute this to the vast majority of people not having the fortitude to understand what triage is and why it is necessary. This is coming from a conversation that has dragged on for over 400 posts on my FB page of me battling my liberal friends (and winning). They scream about people dying. I am pretty open with the fact that the purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to prevent a tyrannical gov from coming into being. So to me seeing the bodies of kids does nothing because I can picture mass graves the size of small towns too. I chose the greater good here. Which means some people die. Which is part of living in a free society.
Not to poke, but aren't you the self-professed, official ar-15.co token liberal? How are you battling fellow liberals? Just asking, because a lot of your posts on here are very lib-ish. [Poke]

nynco
03-15-2013, 15:58
I take all issues as they come and I don't toe the party line on all things ever. I will fight for what I believe is right regardless of who I am speaking to. This is why I try to tell you all not to chase off those you do not 100% agree with. Because we may agree on somethings and that can lead to discussions that reach more people. I believe that the more we talk this out with people who never hear the other side, the better off we all will be. I have liberal friends that hate me now for my views on the second and I have people here that hate me because they think I am too liberal. Its kinda lonely sometimes but I just do what I think is right.

Ronin13
03-15-2013, 16:04
I take all issues as they come and I don't toe the party line on all things ever. I will fight for what I believe is right regardless of who I am speaking to. This is why I try to tell you all not to chase off those you do not 100% agree with. Because we may agree on somethings and that can lead to discussions that reach more people. I believe that the more we talk this out with people who never hear the other side, the better off we all will be. I have liberal friends that hate me now for my views on the second and I have people here that hate me because they think I am too liberal. Its kinda lonely sometimes but I just do what I think is right.
So just curious- of all of those who voted party line (yea) recently for these bills in the house and senate, which ones did you help to put there? And Obama, Johnson, or Romney? If you don't mind my asking. Because as has been beaten to death on here before, if you voted for a Democrat, you voted for more gun control, whether by choice or not. Again, it's Friday, I don't want to get into a huge fight, just seeing where you stand so I can better judge whether to keep you close or closer (if you know what I mean...)

nynco
03-15-2013, 16:08
Does it matter. Because to be honest none of them ran on a platform of gun regulation. I personally though the Dems had learned the lesson of 1994 when the lost the congress for the first time in 50 years 2 months after the first AWB. If they pass more regulations then I will be forced to vote GOP until these are overturned. I personally am so sick of the two party dictatorship that I am more turning my effort towards ways to break the two party tyranny. This is why I always talk about Instant Run Off Voting. I want there to be more realistic choices than just two parties. Because then I would feel safe voting for a green or a libertarian (depending on the person not the party) rather than voting out of fear for either of the two [pileoshit]piles we call D or R.

Bailey Guns
03-15-2013, 16:25
Does it matter. Because to be honest none of them ran on a platform of gun regulation.

Wrong. If they ran as a democrat, they stood firmly in the anti-gun corner by default. Just look at the democrat party platform. Then compare it to the GOP platform statement on the 2A.

OtterbatHellcat
03-15-2013, 16:25
Michael Moore- just like Piers, standing on the graves of dead children to try to gain support... What a fucking piece of human waste. I don't wish harm to befall many, but Michael Moore (along with a certain person who resembles a troll that hails from CA but currently works in D.C., and a woman that is married to a very high ranking person in the executive branch) really needs to be hit by an out of control semi, then have it back up over him on it's way to investigate what exactly happened.

No shit. I've hated that fucker for a long time.

Ronin13
03-15-2013, 16:27
It actually does matter... ignorant yet complicit behavior is just as bad as willful destructive behavior.

Bailey Guns
03-15-2013, 16:27
Michael Moore

One of the many I have on the list of-

"Needs to Accidentally Fall Into a Running Wood Chipper"

I'm not really down with going to prison. But if I saw Moore standing next to a running wood chipper I'd have to weigh my odds on early parole. Plus, I'm pretty good with knowing what to say when the po-po shows up.

OtterbatHellcat
03-15-2013, 16:31
"two pennies"

The system sucks......period. And you cannot vote in somebody from another party for several reasons. It'll never happen.

Tea Party is a flame in the wind.....what the legal citizens of this country need to do is have another Real Tea Party, and straighten some shit out. This cronyism system will continue to exist as long as the sheep allow it to. Neither of these tic turd parties float my boat, but it's always the lesser evil for me...and for most folks I suppose.

OtterbatHellcat
03-15-2013, 16:33
lol, Bailey

Skully
03-15-2013, 16:42
Moore is truly a despicable human.

Are you sure he is human? I thought he was a Hutt?

I like how the family's are telling him off though...................

Squeeze
03-15-2013, 16:46
Michael Moore

One of the many I have on the list of-

"Needs to Accidentally Fall Into a Running Wood Chipper"

This.

Justin
03-15-2013, 17:13
Oh, look, Michael Moore has started saying outlandish and stupid things again in a sad attempt to regain his place in the spotlight.

TFOGGER
03-15-2013, 17:44
Michael Moore is a hypocrite of the First Magnitude. A multimillionaire that bitches about "rich people" like he has any fucking clue about what it's like to actually EARN a living, and proselytizes about gun control and how guns are evil while hiding behind his heavily armed bodyguards. Fuck him sideways with a flaming, AIDS infected garden rake.

brutal
03-15-2013, 19:49
Does it matter. Because to be honest none of them ran on a platform of gun regulation. I personally though the Dems had learned the lesson of 1994 when the lost the congress for the first time in 50 years 2 months after the first AWB. If they pass more regulations then I will be forced to vote GOP until these are overturned. I personally am so sick of the two party dictatorship that I am more turning my effort towards ways to break the two party tyranny. This is why I always talk about Instant Run Off Voting. I want there to be more realistic choices than just two parties. Because then I would feel safe voting for a green or a libertarian (depending on the person not the party) rather than voting out of fear for either of the two [pileoshit]piles we call D or R.

If you truly believe what you wrote you are naive' beyond compare.

The dems are the party of regulation, control, and big government. Their system self-perpetuates the entitled, regulated, mindless masses and will bring this country to its knees if we allow it.

brutal
03-15-2013, 19:52
I'm not really down with going to prison. But if I saw Moore standing next to a running wood chipper I'd have to weigh my odds on early parole. Plus, I'm pretty good with knowing what to say when the po-po shows up.

"Didn't see anything until after I heard the motor pitch drop and I looked that way officer, but I thought I heard a faint, "Oh shit." so I can only guess he tripped."

That's assuming you stayed in the AO

DSB OUTDOORS
03-15-2013, 20:02
Michael Moore is an Asshole!! He does sh*t like this every time he sees the opportunity to make money from a tragedy like the Columbine Shooting. http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/

All I can say is [goFyourself] [fyou] Michael Moore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TheGrey
03-15-2013, 20:32
Michael Moore is a scroflulous, pustulent scabbed-over zit with a mouth that flaps like a flatulent baboon's buttcheeks.

Oh, excuse me. For a moment, I was feeling generous.

Ah Pook
03-15-2013, 20:37
Michael Moore is a scroflulous, pustulent scabbed-over zit with a mouth that flaps like a flatulent baboon's buttcheeks.

Oh, excuse me. For a moment, I was feeling generous.
Please, tell us how you really feel. [word]

th3w01f
03-15-2013, 20:38
Fuck him, he'd kill children himself and drag them through the streets if he thought it would further his agenda.

Byte Stryke
03-15-2013, 23:24
who is at fault?

Who is is at fault for the victimization and brutal slaying of our children?
Is it the teachers who selfless stood in the face of fire to try and save them?
Is it the NRA that wants a good guy with a gun AT THE SCHOOL to face the bad guy with a gun or because they backed the GFSZA plan to begin with (http://web.archive.org/web/20000312035941/http://nrahq.com/transcripts/denver_wlp.shtml)??

I put it to you the politicians feeding from this are to blame, the same ones that created the situation and now deflect attention away from criminal policies that have caused the deaths (http://wise.fau.edu/~tunick/courses/conlaw/gunlaw.html).
I put it to you that the Media is to blame for the fanatical sensationalism of every little factoid and nuance of the shooters life to the point he becomes a cult hero to other unstable youths (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/18/adam-lanza-norway-massacre_n_2713714.html).
I put it to your that Society is to blame for allowing this to happen in some twisted aversion to the reality that evil will perpetrate evil against the unprepared, undefended and innocent; no matter how unwilling.
I put to you that EACH OF US is to blame, that we would stand Idly by and allow such idiocy to stand without [Censored] (tar and feathering bad people) befitting the legacy handed to us by our forefathers in the name of what is right (http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/American_Revolution).
We were charged with defending life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for all citizens. It is a right and a responsibility to defend yourself and your family, it is treasonous to try otherwise.