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milwaukeeshaker
03-21-2013, 09:22
All you jackasses on this site who voted for the Democrats in the last two state elections, hope you're happy. You reap what you sow. Enjoy your new "gun control" laws dips---s.

merl
03-21-2013, 09:30
thanks for your positive contribution to the site.

milwaukeeshaker
03-21-2013, 10:12
Really. You're welcome. You act as though I'm the only naysayer on this site. Just calls 'em like I see's 'em. Can't take the heat, stay out of the fire.

roberth
03-21-2013, 10:16
Really. You're welcome. You act as though I'm the only naysayer on this site. Just calls 'em like I see's 'em. Can't take the heat, stay out of the fire.

You're not alone milwaukeeshaker.

The (D) on this forum might like guns but they vote to restrict all manner of other freedoms.

hghclsswhitetrsh
03-21-2013, 10:49
Dupe.

Ronin13
03-21-2013, 11:02
All you jackasses on this site who voted for the Democrats in the last two state elections, hope you're happy. You reap what you sow. Enjoy your new "gun control" laws dips---s.
Good to see someone else who shares the same views on (D) voters as myself and Bailey... [Beer]

spqrzilla
03-21-2013, 12:51
Nonetheless, this kind of thread is not classy.

brobar
03-21-2013, 12:54
All you Republican jackasses who sat at home on your ass and didn't vote in the last two state elections, hope you're happy. You reap what you sow. Enjoy your new "gun control" laws dips---s.

Fixed that for ya!

Chuck
03-21-2013, 13:14
You're not alone milwaukeeshaker.

The (D) on this forum might like guns but they vote to restrict all manner of other freedoms.


Now that's not entirely true. You now have the freedom to smoke pot (as long as you don't have a CCW) as well as the freedom to marry a dude. [facepalm] Soooo proud of Calaforniarado

Epyon
03-21-2013, 13:19
Good thing I'm not democrat or republican. Instead of playing the blame game, we should be banding together as Americans to push bad government out of our state and move forward with recalls/voting out. It's a better way to channel that anger for something constructive.

roberth
03-21-2013, 13:33
Now that's not entirely true. You now have the freedom to smoke pot (as long as you don't have a CCW) as well as the freedom to marry a dude. [facepalm] Soooo proud of Calaforniarado

True, but the DEA will still kick your door in because Federal law supercedes state law on the subject of dope. I understand Mr. Wyatt is going to be getting a new partner.

osok-308
03-21-2013, 13:40
I'm pissed too, however I think this may not be the best way to go about getting the D's on the site to change their viewpoints.

bennice
03-21-2013, 13:53
I usually stay out of these kinds of discussions, but people really need to realize that all the lashing out just fuel the fire of the anti's and doesn't really accomplish anything for the cause. Sure, it's cool that you're pissed and want to fight for our rights and we're all frustrated with the government on many levels. But the non-shooting public sees shit like that and equates us all to a bunch of babies throwing a tantrum because we didn't get our way. Not exactly the smartest thing to post on the internet when we need all the numbers we can get for those recalls and voting these people out come 2014.

Ronin13
03-21-2013, 14:57
Nonetheless, this kind of thread is not classy.
[LOL]
Democrats are not classy... and they won the CO election as well as the national one. Maybe it's high time to start playing by a more aggressive and dirty set of rules?

Ronin13
03-21-2013, 14:58
I usually stay out of these kinds of discussions, but people really need to realize that all the lashing out just fuel the fire of the anti's and doesn't really accomplish anything for the cause. Sure, it's cool that you're pissed and want to fight for our rights and we're all frustrated with the government on many levels. But the non-shooting public sees shit like that and equates us all to a bunch of babies throwing a tantrum because we didn't get our way. Not exactly the smartest thing to post on the internet when we need all the numbers we can get for those recalls and voting these people out come 2014.
Missed out on the aftermath of the 2000 and 2004 elections did ya?

lowspeed_highdrag
03-21-2013, 15:00
All you jackasses on this site who voted for the Democrats in the last two state elections, hope you're happy. You reap what you sow. Enjoy your new "gun control" laws dips---s.
For once in my life, I agree with this kind of reasoning...

ChuckNorris
03-21-2013, 16:14
I have also had it with the 'uninformed liberal jackass voter'!
All of those idiots with their hands out looking for free this and free that are in for a big surprise.

crob1
03-21-2013, 16:27
I was about to start a thread like this too. I was thinking of a title like "Democrats and Non-voting Republicans, YOU SUCK". Being nice and non-confrontational has been what's led to our situation. It's way past time to take the gloves off. This isn't about being polite anymore and being afraid to offend some poor little liberal who we're trying to win over. Wake up, it aint going to happen. They have their agenda and they are not stopping no matter what. Kissing their asses and playing nice is a losing tactic with the left. If fighting for the very survival of our rights, means less to some of you than being nice, get lost.

mindfold
03-21-2013, 16:33
It would not have been an issue if the NON-VOTING Republicans got off their asses and voted what they believed in. Can't blame a group that voted and got what they voted for (ie pot). But, I can blame the group that sat back on their holy asses and let it happen.

Jutt
03-21-2013, 16:56
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All you jackasses on this site who voted for the Democrats in the last two state elections, hope you&#39;re happy. You reap what you sow. Enjoy your new &quot;gun control&quot; laws dips---s. I keep hearing this same complaint. Are there really that many democrat voters on a pro-ar15 forum? How about all of the lazy f***s that didnt show up to the polls or too lazy to mail in a ballot? Probably far more of that which myself and many others would consider the real problem. &quot;But I didnt like Romney or blah blah&quot;. Whatever, choose the lesser of two evils and quit whining.</p>

KS63
03-21-2013, 17:24
Non voting Republicans encouraged me to change my voter status to Independant. They piss me off almost as much as the Democrats. Can't wait for the numbnuts in 2014 to knock on my door.

Great-Kazoo
03-21-2013, 17:31
It would not have been an issue if the NON-VOTING Republicans got off their asses and voted what they believed in. Can't blame a group that voted and got what they voted for (ie pot). But, I can blame the group that sat back on their holy asses and let it happen.


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I keep hearing this same complaint. Are there really that many democrat voters on a pro-ar15 forum? How about all of the lazy f***s that didnt show up to the polls or too lazy to mail in a ballot? Probably far more of that which myself and many others would consider the real problem. &quot;But I didnt like Romney or blah blah&quot;. Whatever, choose the lesser of two evils and quit whining.</p>

Actually both of you "newer" members are right & wrong. lack of a Viable R in CO PLUS the plan by the gang of 4 put D's as a majority in CO.
IF youz new members use this function Advanced Search (http://www.ar-15.co/search.php) located at the top of the page type in LIBERAL and or NYNCO you will Enter a Dimension not only of Sight and Sound but of Mind.
The Sign Post up ahead LIBERAL


actually the amount of them on this forum is suprising.

Surprising? or just a lot of NEW members who have not mastered the SEARCH FUNCTION. EITHER WAY i'm going to push HB out of the way and say SOMEWHAT OF A DUPE.

Blockhead
03-21-2013, 17:53
Being nice and non-confrontational has been what's led to our situation.

I blame apathy and laziness far more than "being nice." How many times has someone won you over to their side by yelling in your face? I'll guess never. I'm pissed too, more pissed than I have ever been at the political world, but being a scum ball and resorting to their dishonest tactics won't help in the long run. We need to be passionate and active. We need to take people shooting and engage our fellow citizens in a logical manner on the issues of firearms. Being cry babies and bullies will work against us, mark my words.

bennice
03-21-2013, 17:54
It isn't the liberals that need to be won over. It's those who don't shoot and generally don't really have an opinion on the subject who I was referring to.

bennice
03-21-2013, 17:55
I blame apathy and laziness far more than "being nice." How many times has someone won you over to their side by yelling in your face? I'll guess never. I'm pissed too, more pissed than I have ever been at the political world, but being a scum ball and resorting to their dishonest tactics won't help in the long run. We need to be passionate and active. We need to take people shooting and engage our fellow citizens in a logical manner on the issues of firearms. Being cry babies and bullies will work against us, mark my words.

+1

muddywings
03-21-2013, 17:56
actually the amount of them on this forum is suprising.

Maybe he's a member: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/21/entertainment-us-books-authors-baum-idUSBRE92K0CD20130321

(Reuters) - Writer Dan Baum, a self-described Jewish liberal Democrat and a gun enthusiast since childhood, strapped a revolver to his side in 2009 and set off on an 18-month, 15,000 mileexploration of the U.S. firearms culture.
His book, "Gun Guys: A Road Trip," was released this month amid a gun-control debate rekindled by the December 14 shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.



Baum, who lives in Boulder, Colorado, says it was a challenge to write for two polarized audiences: liberals and fiercely protective gun lovers.
He spoke to Reuters about America's gun culture, semi-automatic weapons and what he learned about himself from writing the book.
Q: Are you a gun guy, or were you acting?
A: I'm a gun guy, and I live in a world of anti-gun people. Being a liberal Democrat, my whole social world is among people who dislike guns and dislike gun people.
Q: What should gun-control advocates know about America's gun culture?
A: Guns are cool; they're fun; they're mechanically gorgeous; they last forever.
But the really deep stuff is - we have a lot of freedom in this country to own guns. Our gun laws bespeak a trust in the people. And for the gun guys, this is really what America is about.
The ones who mostly buy guns are straight, white, middle-aged men, rural, who have not finished college, and that is a demographic that has seen their world collapse in all kinds of ways. The NRA (National Rifle Association) comes along and whispers in their ear, "Yeah, you're pissed, you know why? Because the liberals want to take away your guns."
Gun guys derive tremendous pride from being able to manage these incredibly dangerous devices safely, and then along come these pointy-headed urban liberals who have never had any guns, and they want to tell you that you can't be trusted with this device. It is unimaginably offensive.
I'm not asking you to like these people. But I'm asking you to listen to them. They are not just testosterone-poisoned death freaks.
Q: And what can the 100 million U.S. gun owners do to lower the temperature?
A: Gun guys have to get serious about locking up their guns. Most of the bad (stuff) that happens with guns in the United States happens with guns that some law-abiding gun owner left unattended.
The problem is, gun guys do not see themselves as responsible for gun violence. Gun guys have to accept, I have to accept, that my guns affect you.
Q: You quote a prediction that President Obama (http://www.reuters.com/people/barack-obama?lc=int_mb_1001) would push for gun control if re-elected.
A: I lost a $100 bet with a guy. I said there's no way that the Democrats are going to make another serious run at gun control. I think they're going to pay big time. Until the gun-control push after Sandy Hook, we had a chance of taking the House (of Representatives) ... Now we have no chance.
Q: Is it wrong to focus on controlling semi-automatic rifles, particularly the AR-15.?
A: It's ignorant. The gun-control world is trying to pass off the AR-15 as some kind of bizarre outlier of the gun world, when in fact it's all anybody wants to shoot.
Q: What did you learn about yourself through this book?.
A: I am no less a Democrat, I am no less an Obama supporter. But I really understand the conservative lament that we are becoming a nation of weak, disrespected, over-managed individuals.
Q: You depicted conversations and scenes at which you were not present. How did you come about your story-telling style.?
A: I ask a lot of questions. If I can go see the place where it happened I do that. I try to talk to as many people who were there as I can. It takes time to get that out of people. I'm writing about ordinary people and I try very hard to portray them the way they want to be portrayed.
Q: You've also written about the drug wars. How does the gun-control effort compare?
A: The gun issue, like the drug issue, is used to avoid talking about all kinds of stuff that's much more central. We have gone out of our way to avoid having any sense of collective care. If we have people wigging out and killing people, maybe it's because we have created a society where everybody is extremely alienated and extremely stressed. And it's getting more so, because the one percent are getting an increased amount of wealth, leaving less for the rest of us.

**break break**

read this on my lunch break....just needed a place to post it

losttrail
03-21-2013, 17:58
Good to see someone else who shares the same views on (D) voters as myself and Bailey... [Beer]

I'm there with you.

I work with democrat that own guns. Last fall I told them not to vote (D) because if the (D's) gained control, they would be looking at serious gun control legislation.

"Oh no they won't, they understand Colorado is a gun friendly state."

Now I go into work and say "Voting Democrat has consequences doesn't it?"

Just like after the 2008 elections I told the (D's) that Marxist-Muslim Obama was going to spend like we had never seen and regulate like crazy. Same kind of dumbass response from them.

losttrail
03-21-2013, 18:04
I blame apathy and laziness far more than "being nice." How many times has someone won you over to their side by yelling in your face? I'll guess never. I'm pissed too, more pissed than I have ever been at the political world, but being a scum ball and resorting to their dishonest tactics won't help in the long run. We need to be passionate and active. We need to take people shooting and engage our fellow citizens in a logical manner on the issues of firearms. Being cry babies and bullies will work against us, mark my words.

I agree. That's why I'll be adding my name to the list of NRA certified instructors this year.

def90
03-21-2013, 19:01
All you jackasses on this site who voted for the Democrats in the last two state elections, hope you're happy. You reap what you sow. Enjoy your new "gun control" laws dips---s.

Republicans could have won the Governorship if they hadn't had the Tancredo/Maes pissing match that divided the vote.. Read a bit about the last couple elections before sounding like an idiot.

mtnhack
03-21-2013, 19:06
I think a huge obstacle for a LOT on here will be how to overcome the anger and vitriol when talking to those you want to convert to our side. You are not going to be trying to convert someone who believes exactly as you do, or you wouldn't be soliciting them for their support. I think the worst thing you can do is come off like the stereotypical gun nut. (re: Alex Jones) It won't matter what you say if your delivery sucks.

How many of you know people who you would otherwise think would have our back in this BS only to find out that they are "ok with these reasonable limitations" ? Maybe it's that woman at work who votes a party-line R and who says her dad and brothers hunt, but she then comes out with the "I guess I don't see why you need more than 15, or even that evil looking AR-15." What good do you think screaming at them about how that muslim marxist is fucking up my gun rights, or yelling about those fucking dems that will let the poofters have rights, but are asking for a revolution by taking my 2A rights?

You may bitch that now is the time to get nasty, but as I see it, now is the time to try to remain reasonable and logical so we don't feed into the propaganda and lies that are floated out there about us. There aren't just un-informed liberals who are never going to listen to facts and logic and who will continue to vote/believe whatever the bloombergs out there tell them to (see Fields and throw in too fucking ignorant to realize how truly lost she is). No, I am worried about the un-informed independents and republicans and tea baggers. They are more dangerous to our rights than any of them because they SHOULD be on our side.

My mother who is in her mid 60's just took a CCW class this past weekend. She had a great experience with the instructor who went to great lengths to explain why all this is total BS, and I guess he did it in a way that was not antagonistic or confrontational. I see that as being the way to show people that this is a very bad path we are on. That said, I guess be as big a fucking prick as you want to people on here, because no one on here is going to change their mind and say "these gun bills are reasonable"

Blockhead
03-21-2013, 19:21
I think a huge obstacle for a LOT on here will be how to overcome the anger and vitriol when talking to those you want to convert to our side. You are not going to be trying to convert someone who believes exactly as you do, or you wouldn't be soliciting them for their support. I think the worst thing you can do is come off like the stereotypical gun nut. (re: Alex Jones) It won't matter what you say if your delivery sucks.

How many of you know people who you would otherwise think would have our back in this BS only to find out that they are "ok with these reasonable limitations" ? Maybe it's that woman at work who votes a party-line R and who says her dad and brothers hunt, but she then comes out with the "I guess I don't see why you need more than 15, or even that evil looking AR-15." What good do you think screaming at them about how that muslim marxist is fucking up my gun rights, or yelling about those fucking dems that will let the poofters have rights, but are asking for a revolution by taking my 2A rights?

You may bitch that now is the time to get nasty, but as I see it, now is the time to try to remain reasonable and logical so we don't feed into the propaganda and lies that are floated out there about us. There aren't just un-informed liberals who are never going to listen to facts and logic and who will continue to vote/believe whatever the bloombergs out there tell them to (see Fields and throw in too fucking ignorant to realize how truly lost she is). No, I am worried about the un-informed independents and republicans and tea baggers. They are more dangerous to our rights than any of them because they SHOULD be on our side.

My mother who is in her mid 60's just took a CCW class this past weekend. She had a great experience with the instructor who went to great lengths to explain why all this is total BS, and I guess he did it in a way that was not antagonistic or confrontational. I see that as being the way to show people that this is a very bad path we are on. That said, I guess be as big a fucking prick as you want to people on here, because no one on here is going to change their mind and say "these gun bills are reasonable"

Well said, but did you really mean to say "teabaggers" and not "tea partiers?"

mtnhack
03-21-2013, 19:25
Well said, but did you really mean to say "teabaggers" and not "tea partiers?"That was their original self proclaimed name. And had they stuck to a fiscally responsible agenda instead of branching out to legislating a moral agenda, I would have more respect for them as a group.

Great-Kazoo
03-21-2013, 19:26
I think a huge obstacle for a LOT on here will be how to overcome the anger and vitriol when talking to those you want to convert to our side. You are not going to be trying to convert someone who believes exactly as you do, or you wouldn't be soliciting them for their support. I think the worst thing you can do is come off like the stereotypical gun nut. (re: Alex Jones) It won't matter what you say if your delivery sucks.

How many of you know people who you would otherwise think would have our back in this BS only to find out that they are "ok with these reasonable limitations" ? Maybe it's that woman at work who votes a party-line R and who says her dad and brothers hunt, but she then comes out with the "I guess I don't see why you need more than 15, or even that evil looking AR-15." What good do you think screaming at them about how that muslim marxist is fucking up my gun rights, or yelling about those fucking dems that will let the poofters have rights, but are asking for a revolution by taking my 2A rights?

You may bitch that now is the time to get nasty, but as I see it, now is the time to try to remain reasonable and logical so we don't feed into the propaganda and lies that are floated out there about us. There aren't just un-informed liberals who are never going to listen to facts and logic and who will continue to vote/believe whatever the bloombergs out there tell them to (see Fields and throw in too fucking ignorant to realize how truly lost she is). No, I am worried about the un-informed independents and republicans and tea baggers. They are more dangerous to our rights than any of them because they SHOULD be on our side.

My mother who is in her mid 60's just took a CCW class this past weekend. She had a great experience with the instructor who went to great lengths to explain why all this is total BS, and I guess he did it in a way that was not antagonistic or confrontational. I see that as being the way to show people that this is a very bad path we are on. That said, I guess be as big a fucking prick as you want to people on here, because no one on here is going to change their mind and say "these gun bills are reasonable"

When i talk to people about guns i don't scream, poker my finger in their chest or demean them. I explain how people like me, who like firearms don't care if anyone owns a gun. Yet the majority of people who do not like guns, feel no one should own one. 80% of the time "they" disagree, they don't want to limit gun ownership, JUST eliminate "assault weapons and make people go through tougher back ground checks". When asked WHY "They say" well No One NEEDS or has a use for them. If it was harder to obtain a gun there would be less crime. So How's the war on drugs working ? Also Heroin is illegal isn't it? They fail to see any similarity between what is already illegal and how much a failure the WOD is, yet continue to insist tougher gun laws would eliminate school shootings, reduce crime and make the streets safer.
THAT MENTALITY IS LOST and no matter how nice you are, how many "facts" you show them, They still live in a make believe world of rainbows and unicorns. AND STILL WANT TO TAKE MY GUNS.

mtnhack
03-21-2013, 19:37
When i talk to people about guns i don't scream, poker my finger in their chest or demean them. I explain how people like me, who like firearms don't care if anyone owns a gun. Yet the majority of people who do not like guns, feel no one should own one. 80% of the time "they" disagree, they don't want to limit gun ownership, JUST eliminate "assault weapons and make people go through tougher back ground checks". When asked WHY "They say" well No One NEEDS or has a use for them. If it was harder to obtain a gun there would be less crime. So How's the war on drugs working ? Also Heroin is illegal isn't it? They fail to see any similarity between what is already illegal and how much a failure the WOD is, yet continue to insist tougher gun laws would eliminate school shootings, reduce crime and make the streets safer.
THAT MENTALITY IS LOST and no matter how nice you are, how many "facts" you show them, They still live in a make believe world of rainbows and unicorns. AND STILL WANT TO TAKE MY GUNS.And some of those POS are lost forever. Which is why we need every one of those who are either indifferent, or are fudds.

spqrzilla
03-21-2013, 19:53
That was their original self proclaimed name. And had they stuck to a fiscally responsible agenda instead of branching out to legislating a moral agenda, I would have more respect for them as a group.

So you are going to believe MSNBC propaganda about the TEA Party instead of reality. And use a gay sexual innuendo as a name.

Noted.

Great-Kazoo
03-21-2013, 19:54
And some of those POS are lost forever. Which is why we need every one of those who are either indifferent, or are fudds.

Now you're putting words in my post No where did i mention or call anyone a POS.
That's the mentality / attitude you are upset with YET managed to insert it into your reply..
I deal with fudds at the range who STILL DONE UNDERSTAND WHY i own / shoot an AR. Anywhere between 18-75yrs old. Their minds are made up. WHY try to "win someone over" who is only concerned with zeroing their ought six before hunting season with the same 20rd box of ammo they received with their rifle oh way back in 93?

If you get the Windsor Now there was a piece on RMGO. One windsorite (Louie)was interviewed and said he DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY a business like RMGO was here in windsor? Or understand why a business like that was allowed to operate, as it sent a bad massage to people that windsor had "those" type of people doing business here.

That mentality there is no hope for. I researched who the person was and found out he demanded the paper do a story on this business that sent a bad message to townfolk. Turns out the guy is a motor head and even though 3 people i know, who know him, tried to explain what was happening regarding gun laws etc. He didn't care one "hoot" No One had any business owning those killing machines NO ONE. So he was asked. Did you hear the .gov wants to outlaw hot rods if they could not meet the Kyoto accord for emissions? He freaked out Wanting to know who to contact as How Dare they impose unreasonable laws on him.[Bang]

mtnhack
03-21-2013, 20:03
So you are going to believe MSNBC propaganda about the TEA Party instead of reality. And use a gay sexual innuendo as a name.

Noted.What propaganda? And I didn't make up the name, I saw it marching down 287 in Loveland, and spent the rest of my day [facepalm].
If you are offended because you are a tea PARTY member, I apologize and rescind it.

mtnhack
03-21-2013, 20:15
Now you're putting words in my post No where did i mention or call anyone a POS.
That's the mentality / attitude you are upset with YET managed to insert it into your reply..
I deal with fudds at the range who STILL DONE UNDERSTAND WHY i own / shoot an AR. Anywhere between 18-75yrs old. Their minds are made up. WHY try to "win someone over" who is only concerned with zeroing their ought six before hunting season with the same 20rd box of ammo they received with their rifle oh way back in 93?

If you get the Windsor Now there was a piece on RMGO. One windsorite (Louie)was interviewed and said he DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY a business like RMGO was here in windsor? Or understand why a business like that was allowed to operate, as it sent a bad massage to people that windsor had "those" type of people doing business here.

That mentality there is no hope for. I researched who the person was and found out he demanded the paper do a story on this business that sent a bad message to townfolk. Turns out the guy is a motor head and even though 3 people i know, who know him, tried to explain what was happening regarding gun laws etc. He didn't care one "hoot" No One had any business owning those killing machines NO ONE. So he was asked. Did you hear the .gov wants to outlaw hot rods if they could not meet the Kyoto accord for emissions? He freaked out Wanting to know who to contact as How Dare they impose unreasonable laws on him.[Bang]I never put words in your mouth. I called them that, but that is just between you and me.

My deal with the fudds is trying to explain that they aren't killing machines. Or more importantly how this shit is going to end up costing all of us ALL of our rights.

I didn't see that Windsor Now, but it sounds like I am glad I didn't see it.

U81I812
03-21-2013, 20:20
Every democratic gun owner I know works for the government. They love their guns but..... They love their million dollar retirement package much more than their guns. Can't risk loosing that by voting republican.

Great-Kazoo
03-21-2013, 20:27
I didn't see that Windsor Now, but it sounds like I am glad I didn't see it.

It was a piece of work. The 2 replies echoing Louie's thought process were icing on the cake. FORTUNATELY WE outnumber the Louie's in vindsor, for now. The seepage of tree hugging, liberalism from those who cannot "afford" the ft fun lifestyle has taken root and slowly strangling our freedoms.

milwaukeeshaker
03-21-2013, 20:35
Do you really think voting the Dems out will change these laws? Do you think if we relect the Repubs next time that they will immediately go into session and try to get these laws reversed!!! Have the Repubs ever reversed any of the bad laws foisted on us by the Dems when they regained control? I stand by my original post. I'm damn tired of turning the other cheek, just to have it slapped also. The hell with it! The fact stands, if the Dem loving arseholes in this state, and on this site had not voted to put the Dems in power, we would NOT have these new"gun control" laws. If you own guns, and voted Dem in the last election, thanks a lot, you screwed ALL of us with your shortsightedness.


I usually stay out of these kinds of discussions, but people really need to realize that all the lashing out just fuel the fire of the anti's and doesn't really accomplish anything for the cause. Sure, it's cool that you're pissed and want to fight for our rights and we're all frustrated with the government on many levels. But the non-shooting public sees shit like that and equates us all to a bunch of babies throwing a tantrum because we didn't get our way. Not exactly the smartest thing to post on the internet when we need all the numbers we can get for those recalls and voting these people out come 2014.

Great-Kazoo
03-21-2013, 20:44
Do you really think voting the Dems out will change these laws? Do you think if we relect the Repubs next time that they will immediately go into session and try to get these laws reversed!!! Have the Repubs ever reversed any of the bad laws foisted on us by the Dems when they regained control? I stand by my original post. I'm damn tired of turning the other cheek, just to have it slapped also. The hell with it! The fact stands, if the Dem loving arseholes in this state, and on this site had not voted to put the Dems in power, we would NOT have these new"gun control" laws. If you own guns, and voted Dem in the last election, thanks a lot, you screwed ALL of us with your shortsightedness.

PREACH IT BROTHER, PREACH IT.

However even if Romney was elected. Most, if not all, of us know he'd come out as being in favor of something to stop the violence.
YET it perplexes me how the "left" will shout down Ann Coulter YET bitch & moan IF Gore , Obama or any D gets heckled. IT"S hateful they say on every MSM network.

bennice
03-21-2013, 21:00
Do you really think voting the Dems out will change these laws? Do you think if we relect the Repubs next time that they will immediately go into session and try to get these laws reversed!!! Have the Repubs ever reversed any of the bad laws foisted on us by the Dems when they regained control? I stand by my original post. I'm damn tired of turning the other cheek, just to have it slapped also. The hell with it! The fact stands, if the Dem loving arseholes in this state, and on this site had not voted to put the Dems in power, we would NOT have these new"gun control" laws. If you own guns, and voted Dem in the last election, thanks a lot, you screwed ALL of us with your shortsightedness.

I don't know if voting out those Dems will change the laws, but I do know that leaving them in power all but guarantees that the laws will stand. I don't know if the Repubs will go to bat to get the new laws repealed, but I do know the current Dems in office won't.

I blame the Republican party just as much as the Dems. You know what you're getting when Dems are in power. There was never any mystery of what would happen. The only question was when. But the Republican party didn't put forth candidates or a message that people wanted to vote for, so lots of Repub voters stayed home, and Independents voted Democrat. And as mentioned, Hickenlooper probably wouldn't be in office if not for the split vote a few years back. No Hickenlooper, none of these new BS laws.

As it stands now, the whole country is watching what is going on here. It's the national Dem party's litmus test to see just how far they can push their agenda and have it stick. If we act like a bunch of crybabies, or come off as the gun nuts they makes us out to be then we've got no chance, and the rest of the country will likely get this BS crammed down their throats too.

Hound
03-21-2013, 21:37
Good thing I'm not democrat or republican. Instead of playing the blame game, we should be banding together as Americans to push bad government out of our state and move forward with recalls/voting out. It's a better way to channel that anger for something constructive.

+1

jmg8550
03-22-2013, 06:10
I didn't see that Windsor Now, but it sounds like I am glad I didn't see it.

It was a piece of work. The 2 replies echoing Louie's thought process were icing on the cake. FORTUNATELY WE outnumber the Louie's in vindsor, for now. The seepage of tree hugging, liberalism from those who cannot "afford" the ft fun lifestyle has taken root and slowly strangling our freedoms.

I think I know who you are talking about.

Ronin13
03-22-2013, 10:57
And this has turned into yet another "There is no difference between R and D... R is just Dem lite..." [off-yourself]

ANADRILL
03-22-2013, 17:50
Screw punk ass bitches like NYNCO.

T-Giv
03-23-2013, 11:37
Do you really think voting the Dems out will change these laws? Do you think if we relect the Repubs next time that they will immediately go into session and try to get these laws reversed!!! Have the Repubs ever reversed any of the bad laws foisted on us by the Dems when they regained control? I stand by my original post. I'm damn tired of turning the other cheek, just to have it slapped also. The hell with it! The fact stands, if the Dem loving arseholes in this state, and on this site had not voted to put the Dems in power, we would NOT have these new"gun control" laws. If you own guns, and voted Dem in the last election, thanks a lot, you screwed ALL of us with your shortsightedness.

[Beer]

roberth
03-25-2013, 16:08
Spoke with a couple of democrat voters today about the new gun laws. Selfish is the first word that comes to mind. As in "I don't like guns so you can't have guns". Pure selfishness, very typical of the liberal set.

A key difference between conservative gun owners and liberal gun owners, conservatives are concerned with the gun rights of 310 million other Americans, the liberals are only concerned with their own, personal gun rights.

Jeffrey Lebowski
03-25-2013, 17:56
Spoke with a couple of democrat voters today about the new gun laws. Selfish is the first word that comes to mind. As in "I don't like guns so you can't have guns". Pure selfishness, very typical of the liberal set.

A key difference between conservative gun owners and liberal gun owners, conservatives are concerned with the gun rights of 310 million other Americans, the liberals are only concerned with their own, personal gun rights.

I don't like abortions so.....oh.

[disclaimer - I actually dun GAF, but love that hypocrisy of the left]

Troublco
03-25-2013, 19:23
However even if Romney was elected. Most, if not all, of us know he'd come out as being in favor of something to stop the violence.
YET it perplexes me how the "left" will shout down Ann Coulter YET bitch & moan IF Gore , Obama or any D gets heckled. IT"S hateful they say on every MSM network.

Best indicator of future performance is one's past record...Mitt was all about gun control and banning "assault weapons" in Massachusetts. So we're supposed to believe that he's done a 180 all of a sudden? Not so much...

And it's only hateful if their folks get heckled. When conservatives get heckled, that's the way they think it's supposed to be. Right back to their selfish, narcissistic nature. OUR rights don't matter, only theirs do.

I've seen where they've tried to explain it, or justify it, or whatever; but if someone is supposedly pro-gun and a democrat they are at cross purposes. Democrats have shown that part of their platform is to eventually restrict our Second Amendment rights to the point that if we're lucky, we'll have a single shot rifle or shotgun and handguns will be illegal for all except LEO and Govt.; and at best completely disarm us. All of the smoke, mirrrors, noise, and bulls**t can't change that fact. Every time you turn around, they're up to their same song and dance. They want to limit mag sizes, restrict what type of guns we can own, release information on what someone legally owns to the public so criminals know who has what, it's just something new every day.

And Republicans sure as hell have their moments where they've screwed us; Reagan's 1986 amendment to the GCA of '68 comes to mind; along with Bush Sr.'s import ban. But anyone who thinks that Maobama is better than Romney is a true blue Marxist. Romney sure as hell wasn't my first choice, but he was the lesser of those two evils.

roberth
03-25-2013, 21:04
I was thinking about history and how the liberal ignores it or tries to revise history so that the communist is viewed through their twisted prism as beneficial and of good will. The murderous truths of Stalin and Mao and Che are ignored but their "fight for the people" is praised. Throughout the 20th century Chinese, Cubans, and Russians lived in abject poverty under the iron fist of tyranny, so much for their efforts on behalf of the people. Did Stalin, Castro, or Mao grant a measure of wealth to the poor, absolutely not.

Why is the democrat voter so deluded into thinking that somehow this time things will be different?

Ronin13
03-26-2013, 10:01
I was thinking about history and how the liberal ignores it or tries to revise history so that the communist is viewed through their twisted prism as beneficial and of good will. The murderous truths of Stalin and Mao and Che are ignored but their "fight for the people" is praised. Throughout the 20th century Chinese, Cubans, and Russians lived in abject poverty under the iron fist of tyranny, so much for their efforts on behalf of the people. Did Stalin, Castro, or Mao grant a measure of wealth to the poor, absolutely not.

Why is the democrat voter so deluded into thinking that somehow this time things will be different?
I believe this explains it perfectly:
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/269264_524892040902492_52667097_n.jpg
Is it any surprise that "Low information voter" is synonymous with "Democrat"?