James Holmes to plead guilty

[BushMasterBoy]

James Holmes to plead guilty. I read it on the news. I bet the idiot will be in solitary a long time.

http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/Lawyers-Holmes-To-Plead-Guilty-To-Avoid-Death-Penalty-200299651.html

[King]

I didnt expect that.

[Squeeze]

I didnt expect that.

Me either. Figured he would've rung the "mentally insane" shammy until it was bone dry. I wonder what changed is his deranged head?

[sniper7]

I'll donate a round if they will do the right thing and execute his ass.

[Drilldov2.0]

Haven't seen the story yet, but I am betting this was to avoid the death penalty.

[BushMasterBoy]

I bet they put him in the state hospital cos' he is on meds. I bet the lawyers think that too. If they put him in general population, somebody will kill him.

[Mazin]

I'll donate a round if they will do the right thing and execute his ass.


Make sure its covered in bacon grease, after all he is claming to be mooslim now.

[jhood001]

His desire to live is evidence of his sanity. Get a rope.

[Squeeze]

Haven't seen the story yet, but I am betting this was to avoid the death penalty.

That's what I was thinking. And yes, I am all for saving the tax-paying citizens a few bucks and having a 230 grain microchip implant placed in his head.

[Ronin13]

Personally, I think it would be much more fitting justice to see him put in with gen pop and get a shiv to the back several times...

[Boulderar15]

Defense attorneys representing Aurora theater shooting suspect James Holmes have offered to have him plead guilty and spend the rest of his life in prison in exchange for avoiding the death penalty, 9NEWS has confirmed. This is only an offer from the defense team.

[ChuckNorris]

Great!
So we get to pay for his ass to rot in jail!

[NightCat]

Crucify the mother fucker!

[TS12000]

Offer denied :rolleyes:

[Ronin13]

Great!
So we get to pay for his ass to rot in jail!
Actually- it costs a lot more to keep someone on death row for 15+ years with all the appeals and what not than it does to just have them rot for life.

[BushMasterBoy]

Just put him in general population. We can take bets to see how long he lasts. I bet 3 days...

[osok-308]

Actually- it costs a lot more to keep someone on death row for 15+ years with all the appeals and what not than it does to just have them rot for life.


True, I think with a case such as this, there should be no waiting period. People saw him do it, there should be no appeals. Sometimes there are people the world would be much better off without.

[lowspeed_highdrag]

Personally, I think it would be much more fitting justice to see him put in with gen pop and get a shiv to the back several times...
LOL, this jail/prison stereotype always cracks me up. Unfortunately, unless you are a sex offender, you will probably never see reprisal in lock up. Being a notorious case AND being a potential victim will only get him PC for the rest of his life...

[brokenscout]

Then its his culture, we should respect that[Coffee]
Make sure its covered in bacon grease, after all he is claming to be mooslim now.

[hurley842002]

LOL, this jail/prison stereotype always cracks me up. Unfortunately, unless you are a sex offender, you will probably never see reprisal in lock up. Being a notorious case AND being a potential victim will only get him PC for the rest of his life...

Agreed, lots of misconception, even many sex offenders don't have it as bad as most think, especially in the female population, tho irrelevant in this case.

[roberth]

so, they want to limit the gun rights of millions of law abiding Americans, but they would even consider giving him a deal? WTF

I know punish the good guys and make sure we dont give the bad guys death, that way the next guy figures "what the hell 3 hots and a cot, cable television and I get to live to old age paid for by the families of the victims I murdered" our government sucks. 3 of these threads this afternoon and my blood pressure is through the roof.

Yeah, this is crap.

What happened to "We don't negotiate with terrorists".

[Adawg38]

Maybe life in prison for this guy wouldn't be so bad instead of the Death Penalty. Give him a few years rooming with Bubba and getting his ass beat every night. Then at some point then another Inmate can just end it.

[TheBelly]

Real prison ain't no joke. Gen pop = he springs a leak.

the news article had the good quote by that (father of a victim?), " be courageous and just kill yourself."

[BigDee]

So we can demand they try him and sentence him to death. The tax payers are on the hook for a million plus in the cost to try him. With a case this big the sentence will likely be appealed and if there is one I that is not dotted or one t that was not crossed in a police report or document presented at his trial there's a good chance he will be retried costing the tax payers even more money. There's also a chance that if something wasn't done correctly the trial could be declared a mistrial and he would go free. If everything is good to go and he is tried, found guilty and sent to death row he will likely never be executed and tax payers will be on the hook for his special detainment on death row and all of his legal costs incurred filing appeals. He'll likely die of old age on death row before he is executed and the tax payers will be on the hook for countless millions of dollars.

If the Prosecutors office accepts his request, he goes to prison for the rest of his life and will most likely spend the remainder of his life in solitary confinement. Mr. Holmes is going to be an extremely high profile inmate and anyone who kills him in prison will be deemed a hero because he is going to be considered a trophy. Spending a lifetime in a one man cell on 23 hour a day lock down is as good as any torture I've heard of.

As much as I'd like to see this dude fry I know it won't happen either way so in the interest of tax paying citizens I'm all for the plea deal that will sentence him to spend the rest of his natural life in a Colorado prison.

[CO Hugh]

This is the biggest non news story of the day. His attorney's know he is not insane and will hang, if the little bugger gets out he will do it again. They offered to plead guilty, what a joke. It is not like he negotiated and actually plead out.

A conspiracy by the leftists and the post to make the DA look bad.

[Stevensje]

His desire to live is evidence of his sanity. Get a rope.

I agree! Hang his Ass in Civic Park.

[losttrail]

Great. Now the taxpayers get to pay for this low-life for decades.

$0.45 could save millions.

[glenncal1]

I wonder if this scumbag's dad will plea to Hickenidiot that solitary confinement is too cruel and maybe he should be in minimum security.

[Bailey Guns]

So we can demand they try him and sentence him to death. The tax payers are on the hook for a million plus in the cost to try him. With a case this big the sentence will likely be appealed and if there is one I that is not dotted or one t that was not crossed in a police report or document presented at his trial there's a good chance he will be retried costing the tax payers even more money. There's also a chance that if something wasn't done correctly the trial could be declared a mistrial and he would go free. If everything is good to go and he is tried, found guilty and sent to death row he will likely never be executed and tax payers will be on the hook for his special detainment on death row and all of his legal costs incurred filing appeals. He'll likely die of old age on death row before he is executed and the tax payers will be on the hook for countless millions of dollars.

If the Prosecutors office accepts his request, he goes to prison for the rest of his life and will most likely spend the remainder of his life in solitary confinement. Mr. Holmes is going to be an extremely high profile inmate and anyone who kills him in prison will be deemed a hero because he is going to be considered a trophy. Spending a lifetime in a one man cell on 23 hour a day lock down is as good as any torture I've heard of.

As much as I'd like to see this dude fry I know it won't happen either way so in the interest of tax paying citizens I'm all for the plea deal that will sentence him to spend the rest of his natural life in a Colorado prison.

You got it all wrong. Try him, convict him, sentence him to death. He'll be on the fast track to a needle in his arm. Just ask Nathan Dunlap.

[Ronin13]

Maybe life in prison for this guy wouldn't be so bad instead of the Death Penalty. Give him a few years rooming with Bubba and getting his ass beat every night. Then at some point then another Inmate can just end it.
A fitting punishment- did you ever hear Ron White talking about how he thought OBL shouldn't get the death penalty if we caught him? Just have him room with Thunderdick... "You're gonna run out of jelly!"
For those that don't know of it here... NSFW for language

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voxu0eGjKFo

[brokenscout]

That's what I was thinking
Anyone remember Jeffrey Damher?

I got 50 pesos that one of the victims families puts a grand on some lifers commisary account and within days he's pining for the fjords.

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[LigersRCool]

Save the state some money in a long drawn out trial, and save in the long run if he got death and went for a dozen appeals. Maybe he will choke on a chicken bone!

[Ronin13]

Save the state some money in a long drawn out trial, and save in the long run if he got death and went for a dozen appeals. Maybe he will choke on a chicken bone!
What kind of convict has the nickname Chicken? Honestly... [Coffee]

[rotab]

You guys are forgetting something here......who benefits by NOT having a long drawn out messy dirty laundry throwing trial ??

[LigersRCool]

What kind of convict has the nickname Chicken? Honestly... [Coffee]
I'm slow so read it twice..and then I couldn't stop laughing.

[ANADRILL]

This should be viewed as a terrorist strike if he is claiming Islam now.

[Zundfolge]

You guys are forgetting something here......who benefits by NOT having a long drawn out messy dirty laundry throwing trial ??

WE DO.

A long drawn out trial will turn into yet another orgy of media begging for gun control.

James Holmes won't be the defendant, the Second Amendment will.

[funkymonkey1111]

The prosecutors would be sheer idiots not to take this offer. First and foremost, you have a guaranteed outcome. You have the guy in custody forever. There has been exactly one person executed in Colorado since 1977--it's not like this is Texas where executions are regularly happening several years after conviction. There are currently three people on death row in Colorado--Nathan Dunlap has been there since 1996.

If you proceed with the trial and pursue the death penalty, you still have a chance of losing the case. It may be slim-but there's always a chance. Not many people thought Casey Anthony would walk, either. Plus, there's the insanity plea that would happen if the death penalty is sought.

Plus, you just had an issue where legislation was proposed to end the death penalty in Colorado. There's a lot to lose by going forward on a death penalty case with a very small reward. Best case scenario this guy would be executed 15-20 years from now.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm for the death penalty, but the way it is administered in Colorado doesn't inspire any confidence.

[T-Giv]

I'm for the death penalty, but the way it is administered in Colorado doesn't inspire any confidence.

This.

[funkymonkey1111]

http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Nathan-Dunlap-mug-shot.jpg

Nathan Dunlap, killer of four at Chuck E. Cheese, on Colorado's Death Row. The picture of hard time.

[LigersRCool]

http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Nathan-Dunlap-mug-shot.jpg

Nathan Dunlap, killer of four at Chuck E. Cheese, on Colorado's Death Row. The picture of hard time.

That happened a year before i moved here, I read the story on it a couple years ago. It is crazy how our system works and this guy is still alive today.

[clublights]

I just hope that they get the fuckstick to talk..

we need to get in his head and figure out what drove him EXACTLY to do it. mainly so we can start a game plan to stop future attacks .

[BushMasterBoy]

I just hope that they get the fuckstick to talk..

we need to get in his head and figure out what drove him EXACTLY to do it. mainly so we can start a game plan to stop future attacks .


I always wondered if that grant from the federal government and his neuroscience studies had something to do with this. What I mean is did somebody slip him some kind of drug to make him freak out? It wouldn't be the first time the .gov gave unsuspecting persons a hallucinatory drug...

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-07-23/james-holmes-colorado-university-studies/56444742/1

[hurley842002]

http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Nathan-Dunlap-mug-shot.jpg

Nathan Dunlap, killer of four at Chuck E. Cheese, on Colorado's Death Row. The picture of hard time.

On top of this, they sue the state for rights to exercise......

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_18564471?stopRedirect=true

[Zundfolge]

I just hope that they get the fuckstick to talk..

we need to get in his head and figure out what drove him EXACTLY to do it. mainly so we can start a game plan to stop future attacks .

I see a lot of people saying stuff like this, but honestly you're assuming there is some sort of concrete, actionable information that can be gleened from this nutter.

There is a reason that the book and movie about the Manson Murders is called "Helter Skelter" ... because Charles Manson swears up and down that hidden in the Beatles track "Helter Skelter" is a message from God or Paul McCartney or the flying spaghetti monster or someone else telling him to commit the murders so that a race war would start and somehow his shiny white ass would end up being king of the victorious Nubian army that would kill all the white people.

James Holmes murdered those people because he's a nutter. Pure and simple and nothing more. There is nothing to be learned from this animal.

[Boadie30]

James Holmes to plead guilty. I read it on the news. I bet the idiot will be in solitary a long time.

http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/Lawyers-Holmes-To-Plead-Guilty-To-Avoid-Death-Penalty-200299651.html

Not guilty by reasons that he is a Democrap... I mean of insanity. ughhhh.. So confusing...


http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_23191912/james-holmes-plead-not-guilty

[car-15]

The prosecutors would be sheer idiots not to take this offer. First and foremost, you have a guaranteed outcome. You have the guy in custody forever. There has been exactly one person executed in Colorado since 1977--it's not like this is Texas where executions are regularly happening several years after conviction. There are currently three people on death row in Colorado--Nathan Dunlap has been there since 1996.

If you proceed with the trial and pursue the death penalty, you still have a chance of losing the case. It may be slim-but there's always a chance. Not many people thought Casey Anthony would walk, either. Plus, there's the insanity plea that would happen if the death penalty is sought.

Plus, you just had an issue where legislation was proposed to end the death penalty in Colorado. There's a lot to lose by going forward on a death penalty case with a very small reward. Best case scenario this guy would be executed 15-20 years from now.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm for the death penalty, but the way it is administered in Colorado doesn't inspire any confidence.
it would be nice if this was true BUT: there are plenty of killers that have done this in colorado and within 8-10 years they are walking around the streets of pueblo under the influence of a shitload of meds on passes from the nut hut, and 10-12 years they are deemed sane and released.

[newracer]

it would be nice if this was true BUT: there are plenty of killers that have done this in colorado and within 8-10 years they are walking around the streets of pueblo under the influence of a shitload of meds on passes from the nut hut, and 10-12 years they are deemed sane and released.

Exactly, a plea of not guilty by reason of insanity only gets them locked up until they are "cured."

I think this post on the article might just be true.


Holmes is a very sly and very intelligent player in this chess game. And I do believe that is exactly what he is doing. He knew what he was planning, planned it for a long time. He searched and researched. And sometimes I wonder if he might have not intended to get away...to see if he could beat the odds in a court of law. No, he is not insane. He is playing a game of chess to start - Russian roulette to finish.

[TFOGGER]

I still say the correct course of action is to feed this animal feet first into a wood chipper. Nobody doubts that he did the crime. Whether or not he's insane is a moot point: By definition, he'd have to be crazy to do this. Insanity doesn't make him any less guilty, and it shouldn't make him any less responsible. A dog doesn't have to kill someone to be put to death, it just has to injure someone and show a propensity for doing it again. This criminal has shown that he has an understanding of the crime, and can participate in his own defense. A life sentence without parole is a mockery of justice. Why should he be allowed to live another 50 or 60 years at our expense, after deliberately and with premeditation taking 14 lives, with the intent of taking many more?

[rockhound]

Honestly it is too bad our men in blue didnt take care of this in the parking lot the night it happened

[Gunner]

Honestly it is too bad our men in blue didnt take care of this in the parking lot the night it happened

Yup

[Boadie30]

I still say the correct course of action is to feed this animal feet first into a wood chipper. Nobody doubts that he did the crime. Whether or not he's insane is a moot point: By definition, he'd have to be crazy to do this. Insanity doesn't make him any less guilty, and it shouldn't make him any less responsible. A dog doesn't have to kill someone to be put to death, it just has to injure someone and show a propensity for doing it again. This criminal has shown that he has an understanding of the crime, and can participate in his own defense. A life sentence without parole is a mockery of justice. Why should he be allowed to live another 50 or 60 years at our expense, after deliberately and with premeditation taking 14 lives, with the intent of taking many more?

Agree exactly.

[meatman]

Honestly it is too bad our men in blue didnt take care of this in the parking lot the night it happened

It is too bad but also it isn't. He ended up telling the police about the boobie trapped apartment. If he hadn't, it could've resulted in a lot more deaths at the apartment complex.

He's welcome to die now.

[Kraven251]

Actually- it costs a lot more to keep someone on death row for 15+ years with all the appeals and what not than it does to just have them rot for life.

...in gen pop, I don't think we would be paying for it very long.

[Hound]

This should save us in money and press. Really tired of even hearing his name. He needs to be forgotten in a deep, dark hole.

[Zundfolge]

Honestly it is too bad our men in blue didnt take care of this in the parking lot the night it happened

Or better yet a CHL holder in the theater before any innocents had to die.

[BushMasterBoy]

Seems like the plea has been changed...http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_23231454/james-holmes-court-monday-seeking-change-his-plea

[Ronin13]

The problem with insanity that most don't understand (and sadly some juries aren't aware of this) is that people think "oh, no regard for human life, he is crazy, no sane person goes and shoots up strangers in a movie theater." Well not exactly as courts see it. I had explained to me a while back by a retired District Attorney from WA, and it makes perfect sense:
In terms of criminality and murder, insanity is not defined by a person committing an act that is clearly crazy in normal standard thought. Insanity is more generally defined in court as "did the perpetrator believe what they were doing was/wasn't wrong?" If a person walked into a Baptist Church and shot everyone in sight because they believed they were doing "God's work" and that it wasn't wrong, that is in itself, a point of insanity. But, if they had a sick, depraved desire to be famous, or just wanted to kill people, knowing it to be wrong, but doing it anyway, that is not insanity, that is, by psychological definition, sociopathic. Messed up in the head regardless, but a danger to anyone around them, and mentally suitable to stand trial for a capital crime and a capital punishment, not spend a few years in a puzzle factory. Is James Holmes crazy? Hell yes. Is he criminally insane? No. He knew what he was doing, he knew it was wrong, he did it, his last thought should be on what eternal damnation awaits him as a paralyzing agent is coursing through his veins and his last breath is sucked in.

[Mazin]

Bs that bastard knew exactly what he was doing, FRY HIS ASS!


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[funkymonkey1111]

http://www.9news.com/news/article/378339/339/Legal-analyst-Holmes-found-insane-in-1st-eval

that prosecutor will curse the day he didn't take the plea

[SideShow Bob]

And...........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FvX_Suj11s

[XC700116]

Bs that bastard knew exactly what he was doing, FRY HIS ASS!


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This ^^ and in a way, I'm almost convinced he's playing up the nutcase thing. He isn't dumb, the guy was a neuroscience major, I think he could very easily fool the docs to make them come up with the insanity ruling.

[Eric P]

We honestly need to do away with this plea. If you snap and do this, you get off? Bullsh!t...

Mental state should never be considered, only whether of not you did the crime. No need keeping crazy worthless sacks of shit around. They need to be eliminated from the gene pool.

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

It'd be terrible if he tripped and bounced his head off the concrete floor, stairs, wall, cell bars and the toilet...

[Hummer]

The needle is too easy for him. I favor hanging.

[TFOGGER]

The needle is too easy for him. I favor hanging.

Feet first, wood chipper. Slowly.

[Aloha_Shooter]

This is one case where I'd emulate Sharia law and just hand him over to the victims' families.

[Madeinhb]

This is one case where I'd emulate Sharia law and just hand him over to the victims' families.

+1

[rockhound]

it's just too bad he dropped his weapon when the cops showed up, this thng could have been over and done with a long time ago.

[Kmanbay]

From the Boulder County Bar Association website:

Insanity and impaired mental condition are complicated defenses that are rarely used. In Colorado a person is insane if the person is suffering from a mental disease or defect that makes the person "incapable of distinguishing right from wrong." See C.R.S. § 16-8-101. A defendant raising this defense admits committing the acts but claims that he or she was insane at the time of the commission of the acts. The defendant must present evidence of insanity. Once the defendant raises such evidence, the burden shifts to the prosecution to prove that the defendant is sane. If a jury finds that the defendant was insane, the defendant is committed to the Colorado Mental Health Institute in Pueblo until such time as the defendant is capable of being safely released back into society. The definitions and procedures for determining sanity and release are set out in Article 8 of Title 16 of the Colorado Revised Statutes.

The defense of impaired mental condition is related to the defense of insanity and is even more difficult to understand and rarely used. Impaired mental condition is defined in Colorado as a disease or defect of mind that is grossly abnormal and prevents a person from forming the culpable mental state that is an element of the offense charged. See C.R.S. § 18-6-102(2.7). As with insanity, a defendant must present evidence of an impaired mental condition, once the defendant raises such evidence, the burden shifts to the prosecution to prove that the defendant is sane, and a jury decides whether the claim has been proven. A person found not guilty by reason of impaired mental condition is committed to the state hospital in the same fashion as one found not guilty by reason of insanity.


I want Holmes to die, preferably once for every person he hurt and killed but that isn't possible. A plea bargain ending with multiple life sentences without the possibility of parole is better all of the way around. He never gets a chance to do it again. He doesn't cost us millions of dollars fighting both against him and for him. He will live in fear every single day of the rest of his life, because like someone else said he would be a "trophy kill" in prison, and he will never see the outside of the walls. The families will also not have to go through the anticipation of whether this appeal will be the last and he will actually be put to death, or if cleared by the courts that the govenor will give him a stay.

The families will not have to testify, relive or otherwise be drug through a painfully long, months for sure, trial not knowing for sure if the bastard will be convicted and sent to prison or to the state hospital with the possibility of being released when he is "better". I cannot even conceive of being on the stand telling the story of how my wife's head exploded next to mine or how I watched my young child died in my arms because of him. Too much trauma for the families after all they have suffered plenty because of this useless f%%k.

[cofi]

How insane could he be if he instantly surrendered to the police

[funkymonkey1111]

I want Holmes to die, preferably once for every person he hurt and killed but that isn't possible. A plea bargain ending with multiple life sentences without the possibility of parole is better all of the way around. He never gets a chance to do it again. He doesn't cost us millions of dollars fighting both against him and for him. He will live in fear every single day of the rest of his life, because like someone else said he would be a "trophy kill" in prison, and he will never see the outside of the walls. The families will also not have to go through the anticipation of whether this appeal will be the last and he will actually be put to death, or if cleared by the courts that the govenor will give him a stay.

The families will not have to testify, relive or otherwise be drug through a painfully long, months for sure, trial not knowing for sure if the bastard will be convicted and sent to prison or to the state hospital with the possibility of being released when he is "better". I cannot even conceive of being on the stand telling the story of how my wife's head exploded next to mine or how I watched my young child died in my arms because of him. Too much trauma for the families after all they have suffered plenty because of this useless f%%k.

This was my point from my post yesterday. This option was offered by Holmes, but the DA elected to go forward solely to seek the death penalty (this was before governor limp dick refused to act on the Nathan Dunlap execution). So, you've got a sure win--life in prison, even though there's a threat of a potential winning move in the insanity plea, and the DA elected to roll the dice on the seemingly non-existent death penalty in Colorado.

Should Holmes die for what he did? Absolutely. But, given the playing field and the legitimate issues in getting the conviction, it seems that DA may have been a tad cavalier.

And for those wishing to revert to Sharia--you may be joking, but last time I checked this is still a state and nation of laws. you know who changes the law to fit their purpose? Comrade Obama. Not here. I'd rather this puke walk free than live one second under the absurd global pestilence that is Sharia.

[Kmanbay]

And for those wishing to revert to Sharia--you may be joking, but last time I checked this is still a state and nation of laws. you know who changes the law to fit their purpose? Comrade Obama. Not here. I'd rather this puke walk free than live one second under the absurd global pestilence that is Sharia.

I completely agree with you. Sharia is babarism. America had founding fathers with wisdom and knowledge of how depraved people and governing systems can be.

Islam was born out of a sick twisted mans diseased mind to repress, rape and control others. Which is something our founding fathers tried to protect us from.

[TFOGGER]

I completely agree with you. Sharia is babarism. America had founding fathers with wisdom and knowledge of how depraved people and governing systems can be.

Islam was born out of a sick twisted mans diseased mind to repress, rape and control others. Which is something our founding fathers tried to protect us from.

AFTER this douchenozzle is convicted by a jury of his peers, can we feed his sadistic ass feet first into a wood chipper? Pretty Please?

[hatidua]

I don't have any qualms with the death penalty but I think permanent incarceration is more punishing than five minutes of burning sensation pulsing through the veins in his left arm before he drifts off into permanent slumber.

[Eric P]

I don't have any qualms with the death penalty but I think permanent incarceration is more punishing than five minutes of burning sensation pulsing through the veins in his left arm before he drifts off into permanent slumber.


I have a problem paying for them for however many years left in their life. They already took plenty from society with their crime, so why should society pay to keep them behind bars for life? Prisoners in for life should receive no life saving or enhancing medical care and should be provided means to end their life.

[rondog]

I'd rather feed into a chipper and turn him into Hog Chow myself. But since that won't happen, lock him up for life in SOLITARY. Let him find out what "insane" is really all about.

[hatidua]

I have a problem paying for them for however many years left in their life. They already took plenty from society with their crime, so why should society pay to keep them behind bars for life?

If money is the concern, it's cheaper to house/feed them for the rest of their natural lives than to mount a death penalty trial.

I don't care if they hang every truly guilty felon tomorrow morning at sunrise, but from an accounting standpoint, don't think it's cheaper to do the death penalty process.

[KestrelBike]

Anyone remember Jeffrey Damher?

I got 50 pesos that one of the victims families puts a grand on some lifers commisary account and within days he's pining for the fjords.

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Whoa, I remember Dahmer being killed in gen-pop, but was it seriously a "hit" paid off via snacks-credits funded by a victim's family?? That's awesome if true.