Help me out here...

[Random]

I'm a little bit confused. Aren't Amendments to the Constitution "law", and not just "law when convenient"? If the precedent leans toward the latter I think we could go a long way if we get file ballot measures to make a few changes to some of the other amendments as well. I have a few ideas regarding the 26th:

1. Anyone over the age of 18 can vote as long as they have received proper vote training, complete a voter background check (for which they must pay a fee; there is no reason to place the burden for this on taxpayers), and apply for a "Vote Stamp"; I'm thinking, oh, $200 per vote.

2. A person who has voted incorrectly may not vote for a period of five years after the incorrect vote was cast and must attend Voter Reeducation Training

3. No more than 15 votes may be cast in a given year.

4. Votes must be approved by a Voter Review Board to ensure they do not have any superficial resemblance to an assault vote.

5. No fully automatic automatic voting is allowed. One ballot, one vote.

[Great-Kazoo]

I'm a little bit confused. Aren't Amendments to the Constitution "law", and not just "law when convenient"? If the precedent leans toward the latter I think we could go a long way if we get file ballot measures to make a few changes to some of the other amendments as well. I have a few ideas regarding the 26th:

1. Anyone over the age of 18 can vote as long as they have received proper vote training, complete a voter background check (for which they must pay a fee; there is no reason to place the burden for this on taxpayers), and apply for a "Vote Stamp"; I'm thinking, oh, $200 per vote.

POLL TAX

2. A person who has voted incorrectly may not vote for a period of five years after the incorrect vote was cast and must attend Voter Reeducation Training

THOUGHT POLICE

3. No more than 15 votes may be cast in a given year.

WHO CARES

4. Votes must be approved by a Voter Review Board to ensure they do not have any superficial resemblance to an assault vote.

DEATH PANEL

5. No fully automatic automatic voting is allowed. One ballot, one vote.
LUDICROUS

[Great-Kazoo]

i know lets involve the government in more decision making. they always do such a great job.

Si'

[Ronin13]

How about this... make it a requirement to show a valid ID to vote. Done! You're welcome.

[Sharpienads]

I think you guys are taking the OP a little too seriously.

[lowspeed_highdrag]

I think you guys are taking the OP a little too seriously.
Seriously...

[dan512]

I am pretty sure the original post was meant as hyperbole. You know, attempting to point out how ridiculous our new laws are by comparing them to another constitutionally protected right...

[Random]

I am pretty sure the original post was meant as hyperbole. You know, attempting to point out how ridiculous our new laws are by comparing them to another constitutionally protected right...

That took a surprisingly long time. It's odd to watch how people react when you start chipping away at amendments they support as opposed to those that are inconvenient. This applies to me as much as anyone; just human nature.

[blacklabel]

I saw the references to unconstitutional gun laws when I read it. Just goes to show how tight we're all wound up.

[Random]

well it is hard to tell what someone is thinking, when they just joined and you had no past experience to judge them by. we have had a ton of libtards join here lately. how were we to know that Random was joking?

Valid point, and my mistake (though I generally do this sort of thing deadpan anyway). I did try to match the gun control regulations as close as possible, right up to the $200 tax stamp for assassin's tools (in Europe silencers are a courtesy, here...well...nobody has ever gone broke underestimating the intelligence...). Fact is electronic media (e-mail, forums, etc) are the **worst** possible means of communication thus far invented. I sure we'll come up with something more horrific, but I probably won't live that long.

Now, as long as I'm singing to the choir, it's worth noting that Mexico has some of the strictest gun laws in the world, so it must be a really safe place, right? Kinda like Chicago (used to live there), New York...you get the picture...

[Ronin13]

Fact is electronic media (e-mail, forums, etc) are the **worst** possible means of communication thus far invented. I sure we'll come up with something more horrific, but I probably won't live that long.
[Eek3] Could you please explain your reasoning for saying that? Electronic media has made 3 of my last 4 jobs possible (one was security so didn't really matter there).

[Zundfolge]

How about this... make it a requirement to show a valid ID to vote. Done! You're welcome.

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[Random]

[Eek3] Could you please explain your reasoning for saying that? Electronic media has made 3 of my last 4 jobs possible (one was security so didn't really matter there).

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A guy named Albert Mehrabain came up with some astonishing theories about communication way back in the 1960s. His finding were, more or less, that 7% of communication is the words, 38% is how the words are spoken (inflection, etc), and 55% is body language. You could, successfully, I suspect, argue that a written letter is no better or worse than electronic communication given you have just the words, or 7% of the meaning, on paper. What electronics have done for us are make "letters" easier, more convenient and removed actual language frm d pic. I've actually seen resumes written in text message shorthand...scary thought. When you read a forum you get the words "Let's mess with the 26th amendment" and not the deadpan delivery, straight face with the slight curl of the lips to indicate humor, stance, etc, etc, etc. A telephone conversation gives you 45%, face to face and you get the whole conversation. If you look at the real troll on the internet, hiding behind the theoretical anonymity provided by screens and wires, you see behavior that is more and more showing up in face to face encounters. Familiarity breeds contempt.
<irony>
This is not to say electronic communication isn't a valuable tool, we just need better email control legislation. If we can save ONE CHILD we have to try...
</irony>
</offtopic>

<edit>
Oh, BABY! See above. What is the diffrence between an animated gif of a kid saying "That's RACIST" and seeing the words???
</edit>

[Ronin13]

<offtopic>
A guy named Albert Mehrabain came up with some astonishing theories about communication way back in the 1960s. His finding were, more or less, that 7% of communication is the words, 38% is how the words are spoken (inflection, etc), and 55% is body language. You could, successfully, I suspect, argue that a written letter is no better or worse than electronic communication given you have just the words, or 7% of the meaning, on paper. What electronics have done for us are make "letters" easier, more convenient and removed actual language frm d pic. I've actually seen resumes written in text message shorthand...scary thought. When you read a forum you get the words "Let's mess with the 26th amendment" and not the deadpan delivery, straight face with the slight curl of the lips to indicate humor, stance, etc, etc, etc. A telephone conversation gives you 45%, face to face and you get the whole conversation. If you look at the real troll on the internet, hiding behind the theoretical anonymity provided by screens and wires, you see behavior that is more and more showing up in face to face encounters. Familiarity breeds contempt.
<irony>
This is not to say electronic communication isn't a valuable tool, we just need better email control legislation. If we can save ONE CHILD we have to try...
</irony>
</offtopic>

<edit>
Oh, BABY! See above. What is the diffrence between an animated gif of a kid saying "That's RACIST" and seeing the words???
</edit>
Ah, okay, I see... Put that way, yes I agree, communication, in the familiar and common "pre-internet age" context is dying. [Beer]