Newtown Shooting Fact Check

[eneranch]

Just read an article concerning newly released evidence. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/28/newtown-shooting-search-warrants_n_2970351.html

"A loaded 12-gauge shotgun was found in the glove compartment of the Honda Civic Lanza drove to the school with two magazines containing 70 rounds of Winchester 12-gauge shotgun rounds."

Don't think this is factual; among other things mentioned.

[Mtn.man]

Well you know those honda's have BIG glove compartments

[StagLefty]

How the hell do you get a 12 gauge shotgun in a glove compartment ?

[HBARleatherneck]

serbu super shorty shotgun

http://www.serbu.com/top/super_shorty_870.jpg
http://www.serbu.com/top/superShorty.php

[StagLefty]

Duh !!! Never though about one of those. Need more coffee.

[sniper7]

How is it possible to have 2 magazines with 70 rounds of 12 gauge. Most I know of is 30 round mags for the saiga.

[RCCrawler]

Who makes 35 round magazines for a 12 gauge?

[Gunner]

So he had 2x35 round magazines for a serbu shorty that is pump action and only hold 3 rounds and does not take mags in general...... not sure we are on the right track. Lets just call bogus on this all. Think about how long a 35rd 12 ga mag would be. Theres no way that would fit into the glove box.

[Gunner]

This is what I found when reading it. Nothing about a glove compartment

 A loaded 12-gauge shotgun was found in the Honda Civic Lanza drove to the school with two magazines containing 70 rounds of Winchester 12-gauge shotgun rounds.

[HBARleatherneck]

the serbu is magic. just because you think it cant take a magazine doesnt mean it cant. thats what the $5 tax stamp and wait is for. the magic to happen.

see, i can type like a reporter too.

[eneranch]

They changed the article after I made the original post; fucking libtard Media Bastards!!

[Jamnanc]

What about those little shorty shells. Should be able to roll those up in like a guns digest or something.

[Great-Kazoo]

How the hell do you get a 12 gauge shotgun in a glove compartment ?

thingy that goes up on the shoulder, get with it.

[junglerot]

How about the claims that the shooter used an AR15 assault rifle [sic] with a 30 round clip [sic], when all of the credible sources say that the cops found the rifle in the guy's trunk afterward. [Bang]

[brokenscout]

so 3 -30rd AR mags and 153, 223 shell casings? all in 5 minutes?

[thvigil11]

The search warrants from the house list a Enfield Albian bolt action .323 caliber rifle. Personally I've never heard of an Enfield chambered in 8mm (.323). Not calling it a conspiracy, but screw ups in paperwork gets stuff thrown out of court in a hurry.

[thvigil11]

I've also read separate accounts of the school.

155 shell casings with either

1- 3 empty 30 round mags
2- 3 empty 30 round mags and 3 still full
3- 6 empty 30 round mags and 3 still full

The only feasible one is #3 which would mean a couple of the mags were downloaded. Of course this is the one they'll run with once we point out the bad math in the others.

[mtnrider]

How about the claims that the shooter used an AR15 assault rifle [sic] with a 30 round clip [sic], when all of the credible sources say that the cops found the rifle in the guy's trunk afterward. [Bang]

It was a saiga shotgun in the trunk not a AR. You can see it in the videos that have been posted.

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[speedysst]

Just read an article concerning newly released evidence. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/28/newtown-shooting-search-warrants_n_2970351.html

"A loaded 12-gauge shotgun was found in the glove compartment of the Honda Civic Lanza drove to the school with two magazines containing 70 rounds of Winchester 12-gauge shotgun rounds."

Don't think this is factual; among other things mentioned.

THANK YOU! I just read the same article and was completely baffled by the reporting. The rest of the article dealing with what else was found in the house seemed to be irrelevant such as several NRA books. I'll bet there isnt ONE sentence, blurb, footnote in any NRA book that says "Now take your Bushmaster AR-15 and go kill children."

[Aloha_Shooter]

My question is, what thinking person actually reads the PuffingtonHost and expects anything but garbage?

[def90]

How about the claims that the shooter used an AR15 assault rifle [sic] with a 30 round clip [sic], when all of the credible sources say that the cops found the rifle in the guy's trunk afterward. [Bang]

Who would that be? The vids show them pulling a shotgun out of the car, not an AR.

[rondog]

There's this - http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?Q=517284 But who knows how accurate it is.

[jackthewall81]

You guys wanna read a terrifying article!

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/29/nyregion/search-warrants-reveal-items-seized-at-adam-lanzas-home.html?hp

we are doomed.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Well, I don't have any pictures of corpses or articles about mass shootings but am sure I've got him beat on amount of ammo and numbers of firearms and knives. The part that raises a question in my mind is, "a gun safe was in what investigators believed was his bedroom" and "a holiday card that contained a check made out to Mr. Lanza ... investigators suggested that the money had been intended to buy a gun." WTH, the boy was disturbed enough that she was trying to get him committed and she not only let him store firearms in his bedroom but gave him money for more?

The problem here wasn't the firearms, it was stupid Northeasters!

[junglerot]

Who would that be? The vids show them pulling a shotgun out of the car, not an AR.

I quit watching any and all news segments about it. Apparently I was mistaken. What I'd heard from way back in December was that they found the AR in the trunk.
OMG, someone admitted they were wrong on an internet forum, I hope the whole interwebs doesn't collapse in on itself [Eek2]

[bowhunter]

We will never know the truth, they have twisted the facts so much that no one knows the truth now. The feds, local pd, and coroner dont even agree on anything. When the story changes day-to-day how could you believe anything?

[Gunner]

1600 rounds of ammo and a bayonet! Nobody needs thats kind of stuff!

[TEAMRICO]

1600 rounds of ammo and a bayonet! Nobody needs thats kind of stuff!
Your missing the point, he had a STARTER PISTOL! this kid could have started a race illegally!!
Also, the check/money in a card was to go buy a weapon? Did the card SAY that? They SUGGESTED it was to buy a gun!!!! Attention to the words they use.

[ScooterCO]

I do recall the first reports saying the AR was found in the trunk. Story updated...
Remember, the truth is what I say it is!

[wreave]

Okay, so they changed the story to say that the 12-gauge Saiga was found in the passenger compartment, not the glove compartment. However, the video that many of us have watched clearly shows them removing a long gun from the trunk. It appears to be a semi-auto shotgun.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOB6tNJ5nTU

Also, they're now saying five minutes before cops arrived. I thought previous reports said 22 minutes. Not to get off topic, but would you like to know how many rounds I can fire at 3-7 meters with 7-round magazines? Given five minutes, magazine capacity won't matter.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Not to get off topic, but would you like to know how many rounds I can fire at 3-7 meters with 7-round magazines? Given five minutes, magazine capacity won't matter.

Hence why Feinstein would rather just ban all guns except hers at at least force you to only have a single-shot bolt- or break-action.

[SuperiorDG]

My bookkeeper says to me today, "did you hear about the arsenal and all that ammo that guy had?" To the average person any one with over 1,600 rounds is a nut case. I think we here live on another planet.

[IFFV]

As everybody knows by now, there was never a AR-15 used the the Ct. School Shooting.
The AR-15 in Question had been left in the Trunk of is Automobile.

Every single news media report, I've heard, still says he took the AR-15 in school & shot the victims with it. Seldom do they ever mention the Hand Guns he used.
Why hasn't anyone, N.R.A. or Pro-Gun advocates , anyone call those Liberal Socialists News Media out & report what really happen & what Firearms he used.

It's common sense in order for any government to totality control it's Citizen's it has to take away Firearms, Period.
Are we the only ones that know this?

I remember Nikita Khrushchev stating in 1963 that the U.S. would fall from within & become a Socialists Country.
The U.S. Government must Control,
School Education
News Medial
Electric Grids, Power Companies
Gun Control, Firearm Registration
I need some help, their were originally FIVE things he mentioned?
I know I got a little carried away but sometimes it's very frustrating to be remined how Stupid the Voting Public is.

[HBARleatherneck]

damn here we go again. there are tons and tons of threads about this. a shotgun was left in the trunk. it has been named over and over.

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/96613-Newtown-Shooting-Fact-Check?highlight=gun

http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?Q=517284 (http://www.ar-15.co/threads/96613-Newtown-Shooting-Fact-Check?highlight=gun)

Seized inside the school:
#1. Bushmaster .223 caliber-- model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round magazine

#2. Glock 10 mm handgun

#3. Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun

Seized from suspect’s car in parking lot:

#4. Izhmash Canta-12 12 gauge Shotgun (seized from car in parking lot)

[00tec]

Jesus fucking Christ.

Maybe you should.actually watch the news footage of the cops pulling the SHOTGUN from the trunk.

[brokenscout]

What happened in Connecticut?

[HBARleatherneck]

What happened in Connecticut? who knows its some gay back east state.

[Scanker19]

What happened in Connecticut?
"Gilmore Girls" takes place there.

[brokenscout]

Fucking Tankers.lol
"Gilmore Girls" takes place there.

[brokenscout]

We have no where to go, can't go to the West coast, screw the East coast. Theres always Texas, how long till we give up or weapons or Not?/[Troops]
who knows its some gay back east state.

[brokenscout]

This is for Scanker [fagpole]

[Irving]

You have to give up mountains for Texas.

[HBARleatherneck]

Theres always Texas,

no way, they couldnt even keep a church from a bunch of mexicans.

[brokenscout]

Lol, that's funny..
no way, they couldnt even keep a church from a bunch of mexicans.

[theGinsue]

Merged

[Ah Pook]

Merged
I are confused with all these thread mergers. Some are similar but not the same. Makes for a disjointed read.

[2cents]