Kina odd question

[Mottojoker305]

I was wondering if anyone knows if a fake suppressor counts as a barrel extension

[TFOGGER]

Only if it is permanently attached, just like a flash hider.

[jreifsch80]

if anything is permanently attached to the barrel how the atf approves then it becomes part of the barrel

[Tinelement]

Isn't it kinda...??? Not kina...???

[jreifsch80]

Isn't it kinda...??? Not kina...???

nope it's black and white

from atf.gov
The ATF procedure for measuring barrel length is to measure from the closed bolt (or breech-face) to
the furthermost end of the barrel or permanently attached muzzle device. Permanent methods of
attachment include full-fusion gas or electric steel-seam welding, high-temperature (1100°F) silver
soldering, or blind pinning with the pin head welded over. Barrels are measured by inserting a dowel rod
into the barrel until the rod stops against the bolt or breech-face. The rod is then marked at the
furthermost end of the barrel or permanently attached muzzle device, withdrawn from the barrel, and
measured.

[Great-Kazoo]

nope it's black and white

from atf.gov
The ATF procedure for measuring barrel length is to measure from the closed bolt (or breech-face) to
the furthermost end of the barrel or permanently attached muzzle device. Permanent methods of
attachment include full-fusion gas or electric steel-seam welding, high-temperature (1100°F) silver
soldering, or blind pinning with the pin head welded over. Barrels are measured by inserting a dowel rod
into the barrel until the rod stops against the bolt or breech-face. The rod is then marked at the
furthermost end of the barrel or permanently attached muzzle device, withdrawn from the barrel, and
measured.

Which is why you see a lot of "PINNED" 14.5 bbls for sale. [fail] You want short SBR the damn thing and leave it at that. I've seen some decent deals on uppers until the deal killer sentence. F/hider permanently attached.

[SAnd]

Make sure it's "fake". The whole barrel would be a silencer if there is any possiblity that the extension could reduce the sound level.

[jreifsch80]

Make sure it's "fake". The whole barrel would be a silencer if there is any possiblity that the extension could reduce the sound level.
+1 but there is an exception that is a bulgarian 4 piece booster cone. while it does have a single cone inside of it it is not considered a suppressor since it doesn't lower the the sound enough in the atf's eyes.