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whitbaby
03-29-2013, 13:38
Say a trooper comes upon a wreck. The only occupants, an elderly husband and wife, are deceased.
I can see how they could find where you live...but how do they learn the 'next of kin' to notify?
Sharpienads
03-29-2013, 13:39
I have an emergency contact associated with my CO drivers license.
ETA: my emergency contact is my wife though, so if we were both dead I don't know.
kidicarus13
03-29-2013, 13:44
DMV asks if you'd like to list an emergency contact when obtaining an ID/DL. Optional but...
Trooper comes to your house, then starts talking to your neighbors. If nothing there - they take your phone number listed with the house and start playing connect the dots.
Been there. Done that as a recipient in both cases.
OneGuy67
03-29-2013, 13:54
There are LEO sources that can provide names, current addresses and phone numbers of people who used to live at the address. So if in your example, the couple lived at a residence for 50 years, the source will show those names. If they just moved into a residence, then it is more difficult to track. If the cell phones (if they had them) are intact, we can find family names there as well. More and more people are on Facebook, which also assists in developing the next of kin.
generalmeow
03-29-2013, 13:57
This is a little bit of a threadjack, but another question about how cops know what they know.
I'm sitting at the bar with a few friends, and one of my friend's wives, having some drinks. About an hour in she gets a call on her cell phone sitting at the table, and it's a cop. He says he pulled over a guy for drunk driving, and he has her purse.
Some guy came to our table, and stole her purse. Got pulled over a few miles away for DUI. How in the hell did the cop know her cell phone number? Even if he had her id in the purse? Is there a national database of cell phone numbers attached to each and every one of us?
BTW, this happened at JD's Baitshop, and the cop brought her back her purse.
Kind of a scary world we live in isn't it.
This is a little bit of a threadjack, but another question about how cops know what they know.
I'm sitting at the bar with a few friends, and one of my friend's wives, having some drinks. About an hour in she gets a call on her cell phone sitting at the table, and it's a cop. He says he pulled over a guy for drunk driving, and he has her purse.
Some guy came to our table, and stole her purse. Got pulled over a few miles away for DUI. How in the hell did the cop know her cell phone number? Even if he had her id in the purse? Is there a national database of cell phone numbers attached to each and every one of us?
BTW, this happened at JD's Baitshop, and the cop brought her back her purse.
thats wild! lucky her replacing IDs is the pits
Do the police assist in the hiring of professional mourners in this situation?
bowhunter
03-29-2013, 14:28
I thought they called the atf to check your gun registration info? :)
I.C.E. "In Case of Emergency" number on a cell phone. Even if it duplicates another number already on the phone. I just list Emergency 1 and Emergency 2 on the phone. I also have a card next to my drivers license with contact information on it.
This doesn't answer the question but I thought I would mention it.
This is a little bit of a threadjack, but another question about how cops know what they know.
I'm sitting at the bar with a few friends, and one of my friend's wives, having some drinks. About an hour in she gets a call on her cell phone sitting at the table, and it's a cop. He says he pulled over a guy for drunk driving, and he has her purse.
Some guy came to our table, and stole her purse. Got pulled over a few miles away for DUI. How in the hell did the cop know her cell phone number? Even if he had her id in the purse? Is there a national database of cell phone numbers attached to each and every one of us?
BTW, this happened at JD's Baitshop, and the cop brought her back her purse.
Yes, there are databases that provide phone numbers with a person's name and address, among other things.
411.com
Police have access to skip trace, though I don't think it is as fastas the bar example given earlier.
Bailey Guns
03-29-2013, 22:34
I've been able to find info for notifications from things in purses. Every woman I know or have known carries an address book in her purse.
411.com
Police have access to skip trace, though I don't think it is as fastas the bar example given earlier.
Actually, LEOs, skip tracers, PIs, Bond Enforcement agents and Process servers al have access to databases that compile information within a minute or two, if they have a legitimate reason to do so. It's incredibly fast and far more up to date than the databases that people without permissible purpose can access.
I used to have access to skip trace, but you had to submit and wait for results.
centrarchidae
03-30-2013, 00:13
..and so does everybody else with a credit card. Spokeo and Intelius are both wide open to anybody willing to pay for info.
Actually, LEOs, skip tracers, PIs, Bond Enforcement agents and Process servers al have access to databases that compile information within a minute or two, if they have a legitimate reason to do so. It's incredibly fast and far more up to date than the databases that people without permissible purpose can access.
..and so does everybody else with a credit card. Spokeo and Intelius are both wide open to anybody willing to pay for info.
Spokeo and Intelius use stale data. That's why I said "legitimate reason"- public access databases do not use information such as utilities and such for up-to-date information. Permissible purposes are far different with the databases not accessible by the everyday Joe with a credit card. Individuals that use proprietary databses don't use Intelius.
DingleBerns
03-30-2013, 15:51
We have a department database, state database, and a national database. If your not in one of those your lying about your name, ha!
whitbaby
03-30-2013, 16:06
We have a department database, state database, and a national database. If your not in one of those your lying about your name, ha!
When I'm not wearing my tinfoil hat I believe you can find out about ME, but does that also include Next of Kin with their current phone numbers, addresses, etc?
;->
This is a little bit of a threadjack, but another question about how cops know what they know.
I'm sitting at the bar with a few friends, and one of my friend's wives, having some drinks. About an hour in she gets a call on her cell phone sitting at the table, and it's a cop. He says he pulled over a guy for drunk driving, and he has her purse.
Some guy came to our table, and stole her purse. Got pulled over a few miles away for DUI. How in the hell did the cop know her cell phone number? Even if he had her id in the purse? Is there a national database of cell phone numbers attached to each and every one of us?
BTW, this happened at JD's Baitshop, and the cop brought her back her purse.
That's pretty cool that she got her purse back so fast.
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