View Full Version : Why isn't Fort Hood shooting brough into to the gun control debate?
mindfold
04-01-2013, 16:48
I was just reading about the .mil stance on awarding the Purple Heart to the victims of the Fort Hood Shootings. Why isn't this part of the gun debate ever brought up? I am not trying to be a smart ass here. I am asking for serious thoughts on this. Aurora, Sandy Hook and other are the forefront of the debate. Since this is not a front line battle, should this shooting be held in the same regards as other mass shootings in this country? Why is this terrible crime different just because it was on an Army base? What kind of can of worms would that open up?
brokenscout
04-01-2013, 17:05
Because its his "culture",he can't help it.. If we were more understanding it wouldn't have happened
Becuse it wasn't innocent civilians who were slaughtered. It was well trained military heroes who were dupes by a Muslim Taliban supporter who infiltrates the system and even gave mental health advice to our soldiers.
Colorado Osprey
04-01-2013, 17:11
Also, it was a disarmed society. It doesn't play into the libs agenda.
BushMasterBoy
04-01-2013, 17:14
Because we have another military infiltrator in the Oval Office?
theGinsue
04-01-2013, 18:32
To bring the Ft. Hood shooting back into the limelight would require recognizing the shooter is a professed Muslim who committed his violent act of terrorism on U.S. soil and DHS was unable to do anything to stop it.
The American Muslim extremist is something our .gov continues to deny exists in this case or in the potentiality of any others. Muslims are peaceful people; remember?
To show that DHS, with it's over-reaching Patriot Act authority, etc. couldn't predict/stop this act of terrorism would be admitting their growing militarization is ineffective against true terrorists and people would start to wonder what their true purpose is.
How's that for a tin-foil conspiracy theory.
Byte Stryke
04-01-2013, 18:38
To bring the Ft. Hood shooting back into the limelight would require recognizing the shooter is a professed Muslim who committed his violent act of terrorism on U.S. soil and DHS was unable to do anything to stop it.
The American Muslim extremist is something our .gov continues to deny exists in this case or in the potentiality of any others. Muslims are peaceful people; remember?
To show that DHS, with it's over-reaching Patriot Act authority, etc. couldn't predict/stop this act of terrorism would be admitting their growing militarization is ineffective against true terrorists and people would start to wonder what their true purpose is.
How's that for a tin-foil conspiracy theory.
my foil-o-meter must be broken. That sounded just look truth from here.
To bring the Ft. Hood shooting back into the limelight would require recognizing the shooter is a professed Muslim who committed his violent act of terrorism on U.S. soil and DHS was unable to do anything to stop it.
The American Muslim extremist is something our .gov continues to deny exists in this case or in the potentiality of any others. Muslims are peaceful people; remember?
To show that DHS, with it's over-reaching Patriot Act authority, etc. couldn't predict/stop this act of terrorism would be admitting their growing militarization is ineffective against true terrorists and people would start to wonder what their true purpose is.
How's that for a tin-foil conspiracy theory.
my foil-o-meter must be broken. That sounded just look truth from here.
Truth.
theGinsue
04-01-2013, 19:12
my foil-o-meter must be broken. That sounded just look truth from here.
Truth.
Agreed
Rucker61
04-01-2013, 19:37
Also, it was a disarmed society. It doesn't play into the libs agenda.
I've it brought up in arguments because idiot anti-s thought guns are everywhere in the military.
mikedubs
04-01-2013, 19:40
To bring the Ft. Hood shooting back into the limelight would require recognizing the shooter is a professed Muslim who committed his violent act of terrorism on U.S. soil and DHS was unable to do anything to stop it.
The American Muslim extremist is something our .gov continues to deny exists in this case or in the potentiality of any others. Muslims are peaceful people; remember?
To show that DHS, with it's over-reaching Patriot Act authority, etc. couldn't predict/stop this act of terrorism would be admitting their growing militarization is ineffective against true terrorists and people would start to wonder what their true purpose is.
How's that for a tin-foil conspiracy theory.
Jesus...
Or is it Allah?
Anyway, DHS seems more like a gov't police force answering to the White House
theGinsue
04-01-2013, 19:55
Anyway, DHS seems more like a gov't police force answering to the White House
Ah, what light through yonder window breaks!
Jesus...
Or is it Allah?
Anyway, DHS seems more like a gov't police force answering to the White House
Ah, what light through yonder window breaks!
The picture is coming together.
motohooligan
04-02-2013, 10:44
The whole "gun free" military base thing baffles me. Where else in the world is 90%+ of people trained and proficient in the use of small arms? (Israel, I guess) But no, no guns allowed on the base except in the armory and the MPs. Barricade yourself in the office conference room and wait for the calvary, meanwhile the active shooter is shooting fish (who are all trained to kill) in a barrel. Drives me nuts that my wife (who qualified expert w/ the M9) can't legally carry on the base. I think every military member qualified on the M9 should be required to carry it while in uniform on base.
mindfold
04-02-2013, 10:51
This is what I needed to know. This is a great example of why gun free zones don't work. Even if you are trained to throw a stapler and lock a door. Crazy man with a gun always beats that. Only reason more people were not killed, on base or in any of these crimes, was because someone WITH A GUN stopped them.
The whole "gun free" military base thing baffles me. Where else in the world is 90%+ of people trained and proficient in the use of small arms? (Israel, I guess) But no, no guns allowed on the base except in the armory and the MPs. Barricade yourself in the office conference room and wait for the calvary, meanwhile the active shooter is shooting fish (who are all trained to kill) in a barrel. Drives me nuts that my wife (who qualified expert w/ the M9) can't legally carry on the base. I think every military member qualified on the M9 should be required to carry it while in uniform on base.
I agree. .mil bases are essentially "gun free zones." I can't vouch for how it works on all of them, but even if you're carrying a firearm (like range days) you don't get access to the ammo until you get to the range, and only the range detail has the ammo and only at the ranges. And like anywhere in the civilian world, the Police cannot possibly be everywhere at once, so you're on your own, and forcibly unarmed.
Madeinhb
04-02-2013, 12:06
Also didn't he only use handguns? Right now they aren't going after handguns so it doesn't fit their propaganda.
Also didn't he only use handguns? Right now they aren't going after handguns so it doesn't fit their propaganda.
Virginia Tech only involved handguns too... and he used 10-round magazines... Excuse me, I'm stepping outside what fits their agenda, sorry.
Why isn't Fort Hood shooting brough into to the gun control debate?
Because Muslims are a protected class. The mainstream, liberal media sucks up to these bastards in the false hope that the jihadi won't kill them first.
Because Muslims are a protected class. The mainstream, liberal media sucks up to these bastards in the false hope that the jihadi won't kill them first.
Yep! They'll just go from being slaves to the Democratic party to being slaves to the Islamic Radical Regime...
the only reason mooslims hate us is because we support Israel"
just ask RP, he will tell you.
no, they hate us on so many levels. the media can suck them off all day long and the mooslims will still hate them.
You got that right.
Short list of reasons Muslims hate us.
1. 1st Amendment guarantees freedom of religion - Muslins HATE every other religion
2. Our success as the greatest nation in the history of the world - Muslims have been practicing thier abhorrent religion for thousands of years and they are still some of the most backwards, idiotic people on earth.
3. People like RP - The Muslims would just kill him and they can understand why we don't
4. We grant women equality - Muslims look at women like they are baby factories when it suits them and something to shove their penis into when they aren't fucking goats or little boys
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