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buckeye4rnr
04-05-2013, 11:14
http://www.fa-mag.com/news/obama-s-budget-would-cap-romney-sized-retirement-accounts-13888.html


President Barack Obama’s budget proposal would cap multimillion-dollar tax-favored retirement accounts like the one held by Mitt Romney, his Republican rival in 2012.

Obama’s budget plan, to be unveiled April 10, would prohibit taxpayers from accumulating more than $3 million in an individual retirement account. That proposal would generate $9 billion in revenue for the Treasury over the next decade, according to a White House statement released today.

“Under current rules, some wealthy individuals are able to accumulate many millions of dollars in these accounts, substantially more than is needed to fund reasonable levels of retirement saving,” the statement said.

The most prominent taxpayer with a multimillion-dollar IRA is Romney, the 2012 Republican nominee and co-founder of Bain Capital LLC. Romney disclosed in public filings during the presidential campaign that his retirement account held between $18.1 million and $87.4 million. At one point, the maximum exceeded $100 million.

IRAs have evolved from a retirement-planning technique into an estate-planning tool for some wealthy families because tax laws allow the accounts to be passed on to heirs, said Ed Slott, an IRA specialist and certified public accountant based in Rockville Centre, New York.

‘Critical Mass’

“Over the last election it hit a critical mass when a lot of people found out that Romney had $100 million in his IRA,” Slott said. “People thought, how on earth did that happen? I think that was the tipping point.”

The Romney campaign didn’t explain how he amassed that much money in the IRA when contribution limits are much lower. Most taxpayers can contribute a maximum of $5,500 for 2013.

One possibility is that Romney included Bain investments valued at close to nothing that later grew exponentially. The value would increase tax-free in the retirement account and would be subject to taxation at ordinary income tax rates when taken out.

Democratic lawmakers, including Representatives Sander Levin of Michigan and George Miller of California, called on the Treasury Department to act.

The administration’s statement didn’t explain in detail how the proposal would work. The cap would apply to the total of all tax-favored retirement accounts.

Slott said the proposal, which wouldn’t apply to most taxpayers, would be difficult to implement.


Who fucking voted for this clown? Really nice way to ensure everyone is dependent on the government if you're unable to support yourself in retirement.

sellersm
04-05-2013, 11:26
Pretty soon they'll be taking all of our retirement $$$. Then (or before), will come the "asset tax" and the "investment tax" and all the other money-stealing 'budget plans'. His response will probably be: "well, you asked me for a budget, so here it is!" [facepalm]

Aloha_Shooter
04-05-2013, 11:31
Wait until he unveils his equivalent of the Cyprus tax ...

Cylinder Head
04-05-2013, 11:32
Full blown treason.

sellersm
04-05-2013, 12:04
Forgot to add: Who is John Galt?

Irving
04-05-2013, 12:29
Man, having second thoughts of selling the rest of my bitcoins.

Mazin
04-05-2013, 12:50
So you can work hard but you can only reach a certain level of comfort before the .gov says you can't save any more. Yea that sounds like the American dream alright.


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Chad4000
04-05-2013, 13:01
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bahahaa lol

Great-Kazoo
04-05-2013, 13:41
Wait until he unveils his equivalent of the Cyprus tax ...

This, along with france who seized High Income earners bank assets to "assist" their debt issue. Basically the EU is commandeering your money to pay their debt. Coming to a country near you.

theGinsue
04-05-2013, 14:36
Forgot to add: Who is John Galt?
From each according to his ability. To each according to his need.

TFOGGER
04-05-2013, 15:14
The sad parts of this: 9 Billion dollars is about what the USG spends in a single day, and when the dollar collapses, 3 million might end up being enough for a Happy Meal...

Ah Pook
04-05-2013, 16:23
So, if you are fiscally responsible and plan for the future, you are penalized? And you wonder why off shore accounts are so popular. [facepalm]

ringhilt
04-05-2013, 17:07
Government steals half my paycheck to pay for things I don't want nor support. Now they are telling me they will limit how much I can save for retirement? And what level of retirement comfort I can have?
When do we start prosecuting these a$$clowns for corruption? I see no where in the constitution where they have the authority to regulate how much I save for my retirement!

Irving
04-05-2013, 17:17
This is the government forgetting who exists for whom.
If IRA money is taxed at the regular rate when it is pulled out, then this is just a move to have this money taxed now, instead of later. They'd be better off to leave it the way it is now.

MrPrena
04-05-2013, 18:48
ANOTHER hit on middle class.

R&S
04-05-2013, 22:19
If I had any $$ in a retirement I would probably take it out and buy gold and silver

Irving
04-05-2013, 22:24
ANOTHER hit on middle class.
Well, can you have 3 million in an IRA and still be considered middle class? Maybe you can.

MrPrena
04-05-2013, 22:27
You can buy a precious metal ETF inside the Traditional/ROTH IRA.
It is same as having an money market, except it is under the retirement mm vehicle.

Irving
04-05-2013, 22:34
Right, just like buyimg a rental with your own IRA money.

USAFGopherMike
04-05-2013, 22:46
When will the people say enough is enough and act?

Irving
04-05-2013, 22:52
When the govern,ent picks on more than 3% of the population at a time.

stevelkinevil
04-05-2013, 23:00
This sounds new till you phrase it in layman's terms "Obama announces plans to steal what you have earned" then it just sounds like all the other plans.

USAFGopherMike
04-05-2013, 23:27
Or you could change that to "Liberal agenda monkeys hate your freedom to do anything".

JoeT
04-06-2013, 07:23
so lets say I'm a guy making $250K a year and I've amassed the maximum president zero allows me of $3,000,000

say I decide to retire at 62....doing the rough interest and accounting for "normal" inflation. I BETTER DIE at 76 because I'll have no money left if I continue to live as I am.

but I guess with Obamacare, they'll put me to sleep before 76 anyways

Jeffrey Lebowski
04-06-2013, 07:46
“Under current rules, some wealthy individuals are able to accumulate many millions of dollars in these accounts, substantially more than is needed to fund reasonable levels of retirement saving,” the statement said.

As defined by whom?

Anyone else tired of the use of this word "reasonable?"
Unbelievably subjective. Current use almost always means "We plan to restrict way back from what the US has allowed for the whole of its history."

Cthulhu
04-06-2013, 09:46
As defined by whom?

Don't be fatuous Jeffery. As defined by "Dear Leader" and the others who know what's best for us of course.

mountainjenny
04-06-2013, 09:49
As defined by whom?

I think there is a czar for that.

TS12000
04-06-2013, 11:18
You didn't save that!

buckshotbarlow
04-06-2013, 12:50
Forgot to add: Who is John Galt?

see my signature...they're (govie's) need to be removed by any means possible..