Got a response from Regal Entertainment Group...

[Ronin13]

So last week, following a startling discovery at the Colorado Mills Regal Cinema that the company, much like Century Entertainment Group, doesn't allow concealed carry (or any weapons). So I wrote a nice, friendly email (silly me, I didn't copy the text and save it and they didn't include the original email) that I thought was well worded and logical addressing the fact that these policies are partially responsible for the multitude of shootings we see (gun free zone logic there).
Here is the response I received from them:
Dear Mr. [Ronin] :

Thank you for taking the time to communicate your concerns regarding our facility security policies. Please understand that Regal Entertainment Group, with the assistance of safety experts and law enforcement personnel, has developed policies and procedures designed to provide the safest environment for our guests and employees. Rest assured these policies and procedures are not designed with the intent to inconvenience or otherwise cause hardship to our guests. However, we believe these policies appropriate to assure the general safety of all guests and employees.

Please note all law enforcement officers, whether on or off duty, are exempt from our gun prohibition policy in the theatre, as long as they identify themselves as such either by display of a badge or other identification upon request.

Again, thank you for taking the time to advise us of your concerns.

Sincerely,
Customer Relations Department
Operational Services
Regal Entertainment Group

Safety "experts" huh? That doesn't sound like very good expert advice, and surely they must be using NYPD higher ups to give them advice on their policies, most LEOs I know would prefer a CCW holder instead of a bunch of unarmed fish in a barrel. And I don't feel very goddamn safe without a means to defend myself on my person! [Mad] Sorry, kind of channeling Jim here, but this really pisses me the fuck off! It's too bad the GF loves going to movies, it's awful hard to tell her I refuse to go somewhere where I'd be an easy target if something bad were to happen. I'd rather be shooting back instead of cowering and hoping I or my loved ones don't get shot. Then again, I could always follow the "Concealed means concealed" mantra...

[Sawin]

I'm not surprised by their reply at all.

By the way, If you want the original body of your email, it's in your sent items folder....

[Sawin]

....Then again, I could always follow the "Concealed means concealed" mantra...

exactly... but if you can go somewhere else, do. I'd rather not support those businesses while putting myself at risk.

[davsel]

No one will ever successfully legislate away my God given right to self defense.
If someone somehow discovers that you are carrying, the most the management can do is ask you to leave. You leave. No problem.

I carried for 5 years while under a civil restraining order from a psycho divorce. Thankfully, I never had to draw my weapon and do federal time, but I am not about to be a helpless target just because of some bureaucratic liberal feelgood nonsense. At least I had a fighting chance to stay alive and to protect my family if the need arose.

[Ronin13]

I'm not surprised by their reply at all.

By the way, If you want the original body of your email, it's in your sent items folder....
It was on their website- "contact us"- one of those fill in the form type of emails. Believe me, I checked my sent items and then remembered that I didn't send direct email.

[hurley842002]

Yeah ask the Aurora theatre victims and their families how the "experts" work out......

[buckshotbarlow]

what signs...i didn't see no stinking signs is my mantra

[Ronin13]

what signs...i didn't see no stinking signs is my mantra
Well it was my GF that pointed it out- the notice is at the ticket window and it's so small I felt like I needed reading glasses to see it. So no, I didn't see any signs. [Coffee]

[Great-Kazoo]

Well it was my GF that pointed it out- the notice is at the ticket window and it's so small I felt like I needed reading glasses to see it. So no, I didn't see any signs. [Coffee]


Your Blow Up doll can move by her self? NICE, Very Nice.

[Inspector Fowler]

That stuff always tears me up.

On the one hand, I really support private property owners and businesses being allowed to run their stuff however (smart or dumbass) way they want.

On the other hand, those policies are based on fear-mongering and wrong thought, and they do take away a good method of defending yourself.

In an ideal world, I'd like to see private citizens reward or punish businesses with money/lack of money for stuff like this, but I know it's hard.

What if there was some kind of reverse Foursquare app, where instead of checking in (which I find super creepy), it warned you if you were near or entering a business that was anti-2A? That would be pretty awesome.

[Sawin]

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What if there was some kind of reverse Foursquare app, where instead of checking in (which I find super creepy), it warned you if you were near or entering a business that was anti-2A? That would be pretty awesome.

Irving was looking for ideas of how to make money this week. That sounds like a fantastic one that i'd pay a couple bucks for, no doubt about it. I'm sure most 2a folks would.

The downfall of it is that it's GPS specific, and most 2a folks turn that shit off on their phones ;)

[newracer]

Don't go there. What means more to you, your safety or appeasing your girlfriend?

[centrarchidae]

"Concealed means concealed...if they tell you to leave, you leave, no problem..." misses the point.

You've just spent about $20 per person at an anti-gun business.

Meaning, you just rewarded the enemy and paid them to be anti-gun.

Congratulations.

It's their business to run as they see fit. I'll respect their private property rights by going to the Elvis instead of the Mills, getting my hot wings at Quaker Steak and Lube instead of BWW, and buying overpriced jewelry from this guy on the 16th Street instead of Jared.

[Inspector Fowler]

Irving was looking for ideas of how to make money this week. That sounds like a fantastic one that i'd pay a couple bucks for, no doubt about it. I'm sure most 2a folks would.

The downfall of it is that it's GPS specific, and most 2a folks turn that shit off on their phones ;)

That is true. I'm not even particularly paranoid and I still don't really like stuff like FourSquare because it is so creepy that everybody feels like its okay to tell everybody where they are all the time. Also, battery life.

It would have to be developed by the right people and they would have to have the right wording/permissions on their site/app.

The app could also have a client-side "plan my shopping" section, where you didn't need to turn on anything. You'd just make up your shopping list - Harbor Freight, Gas Station, King Soopers, and it would tell you if they were okay or bad.

Perhaps showing up on a list with an app that has a few hundred thousand (or more) downloads that promises to help people avoid their business would make at least a couple businesses change their tune.

I think the hardest part would be vetting who goes on the list. I think the app itself would have to be sponsored by something like RMGO or (on a national level) the NRA or something. If it was user-edited, it would be a complete nightmare.

EDIT - Something like this app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ryan.posted&feature=search_result), but not just for carry - for businesses that donated to anti-gun politicians, etc. And again - not user maintained, because it would get crazy pretty quick.

[Viper45]

The app could also have a client-side "plan my shopping" section, where you didn't need to turn on anything. You'd just make up your shopping list - Harbor Freight, Gas Station, King Soopers, and it would tell you if they were okay or bad.
Personally, I think the hardest part would keeping up with every stores policy changes, for good or bad.

[R&S]

Can't fix stupid, there are those that think a bad guy is going to really pay attention to a sign that says no firearms allowed. When a bad guy reads that they understand it to mean "come on in and do what you what, no one in here is armed to prevent you from doing whatever you want"

[dwalker460]

I go armed into every movie theatre I have ever entered, especially as an employee during college. I suggest you do the same.

Edit:

Also, the Aurora shooter specifically went to that theatre because it was a gun free zone, and he specifically avoided carry a weapon past the armed off duty police in the lobby, because, well, they are armed. He instead opened a door and went outside, circumventing the "safety plans" the theatre had wisely devised. Well, it is easy to see how well those plans worked...

[Jackal]

Your Blow Up doll can move by her self? NICE, Very Nice.

Just like yours. Except his didn't run away from home.

[dwalker460]

Jims blow up doll did not run away from home, it turned states evidence and is in witness relocation.

[brutal]

Something similar already exists in the Play store.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aliveonline.gunfreezone&hl=en

[wreave]

The issue with allowing public businesses to restrict guns is that it creates target zones. It's a safety hazard. Schools especially.

At least Colorado's law is fairly toothless, except when it comes to schools.

[BPTactical]

Your RIGHT HAND can move by it's self? NICE, Very Nice.

I fixxxed it for you!




I do my best to not patronize establishments that are anti 2A

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

what signs...i didn't see no stinking signs is my mantra

Well it was my GF that pointed it out- the notice is at the ticket window and it's so small I felt like I needed reading glasses to see it. So no, I didn't see any signs. [Coffee]

I've never seen one there at Colorado Mills either, but I go to the movies maybe 1x / year. And who goes to the ticket window with print at home nowadays?
Is there a sign at the Denver West theater across the street by Tokyo Joe? I've never seen one there either and I prefer that place to mills.
(If there is, don't tell me. Ignorance is bliss)

[TheBelly]

Concealed means concealed.

[rockhound]

Exactly, even my wife is surprised to find out i have my gun on me at times

[Gman]

If they find out, they ask you to leave. You could always vote with your wallet as well.

[Ronin13]

Don't go there. What means more to you, your safety or appeasing your girlfriend?
True... I'll just tell her the only movies I'll go see with her are at gun friendly theaters...

"Concealed means concealed...if they tell you to leave, you leave, no problem..." misses the point.

You've just spent about $20 per person at an anti-gun business.

Meaning, you just rewarded the enemy and paid them to be anti-gun.

Congratulations.

It's their business to run as they see fit. I'll respect their private property rights by going to the Elvis instead of the Mills, getting my hot wings at Quaker Steak and Lube instead of BWW, and buying overpriced jewelry from this guy on the 16th Street instead of Jared.
Elvis is gun friendly? Any other "newer" theaters. Some movies I'd rather not wait 3 months to see if they sound really good...

I've never seen one there at Colorado Mills either, but I go to the movies maybe 1x / year. And who goes to the ticket window with print at home nowadays?
Is there a sign at the Denver West theater across the street by Tokyo Joe? I've never seen one there either and I prefer that place to mills.
(If there is, don't tell me. Ignorance is bliss)
Denver West usually has shitty seats though (in my experience)... and they're owned by Regal, but I can't say I've seen a sign...

[Aloha_Shooter]

Exactly, even my wife is surprised to find out i have my gun on me at times

I would hope your wife of all people knows you have your gun at all times -- maybe not your pistol but ...

[generalmeow]

I thought about you yesterday Ronin, as I walked into a movie theater that had a "no weapons" sign on the front doors. And I didn't slow down.

Even if they suspected me of carrying a firearm, they certainly couldn't make me show it to them. Even a cop couldn't detain me and make me show it to them, as he would have no reason to suspect that I had or was in the process of committing a crime (it's legal if I have a permit for it). The cop can't say "it's not technically against the law to carry a firearm here, but I need to search you for a concealed firearm."

There's no reason to not carry into any business that asks you to not carry there, unless you want to be a nice guy.

[whitbaby]

Something similar already exists in the Play store.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aliveonline.gunfreezone&hl=en

Nice to know where the sheep (and therefore wolves) will be welcomed.
Also nice to know where the sheepdogs will be welcomed.

[generalmeow]

I would like to know from anyone who knows for sure, what circumstances could lead to you being ticketed for trespassing in a business with a no weapons policy, if you're legally concealed carrying?

[brutal]

I would like to know from anyone who knows for sure, what circumstances could lead to you being ticketed for trespassing in a business with a no weapons policy, if you're legally concealed carrying?

If asked to leave (assuming discovery) and refusing to vacate the premise.

A business owner, or their representative manager/operator, pretty much has a right to refuse service or ask anyone to leave the property for any reason. Failure to do so is criminal trespass, posted or not.

That's my humble interpretation of the Colorado law as a private citizen.

[generalmeow]

If asked to leave (assuming discovery) and refusing to vacate the premise.

A business owner, or their representative manager/operator, pretty much has a right to refuse service or ask anyone to leave the property for any reason. Failure to do so is criminal trespass, posted or not.

That's my humble interpretation of the Colorado law as a private citizen.

That was my understanding too. So by just carrying into a place that has a no weapons policy, it would be extremely hard to get into trouble. Of course if they ask me to leave, based on my concealed weapon, which they have somehow discovered, I'm going to leave. But they're not going to discover it in the first place.

[glock74]

I carry concealed at movie theaters, I don't care what there signs say.