View Full Version : 7 year old nabbed on felony BB gun charges
http://janmorganmedia.com/2013/04/7-year-old-nabbed-on-felony-bb-gun-charges/
Things are gona get worse before they get better....
Par for the course I'd say.
Wow that's fucking ridiculous
robertcolorado2009
04-07-2013, 13:12
Zero tolerance and "guns" is making a whole lot of stoopid people look even more stoopider! Grab a bag of popcorn and sit back...
BushMasterBoy
04-07-2013, 13:13
Why can't the media emphasize the gun owners that stop the bad guys? There is an evil conspiracy against those that wish to be able to protect themselves. At least in this state they wait until the child is 10 years old to even be able to prosecute...
Another over-reaction.
What have we got so far in the last month or so:
A male child suspended for throwing an imaginary hand grenade.
A male child suspended for making an imaginary gun out of a pop-tart.
Do you think the schools are trying to mentally neuter boys so that when the boys are older they'll be easier for a tyrannical government to control? This question is based on the FACT that we ARE headed for tyranny and that the federally controlled, public school system teaches a curriculum biased toward the idea that the government can replace God.
Zero tolerance and "guns" is making a whole lot of stoopid people look even more stoopider! Grab a bag of popcorn and sit back...
my sons friend is 11 years old and he was telling his friends he got a remington for his birthday at school last week, a teacher overheard asked him if he was using the word remington to refer to a gun? he sad yes and they suspended him for 5 days. my son asked me if he would be in trouble if it was him that got suspended for that, I told him only if he didn't call the teacher a liberal cunt on the way to the office. ETA: this happened in a district 70 school in rural pueblo county, where hunting and ranching is a way of life, the libs are taking this whole state over from border to border and it makes me sick....
DingleBerns
04-07-2013, 13:35
Luckily in Colorado the minimum age to charge a person is 10 years old.
TEAMRICO
04-07-2013, 13:38
If a background check was ran on this criminal then it would have never happened! They should have scoured his records......shot, school, etc. to find out what criminal past this potential mass murder has committed since.....2005....maybe 2006!
This is an outrage that these type of weapons that are designed for.....recreation and scouting activities with dad are out on the street!!
Im sure he fit the profile, white, parents belong to the NRA or even a CHURCH! My god, I would bet his dad is a HUNTER!
This has got to be stopped. I dont feel safe anymore.
blacklabel
04-07-2013, 13:39
Common sense isn't so common anymore.
my sons friend is 11 years old and he was telling his friends he got a remington for his birthday at school last week, a teacher overheard asked him if he was using the word remington to refer to a gun? he sad yes and they suspended him for 5 days. my son asked me if he would be in trouble if it was him that got suspended for that, I told him only if he didn't call the teacher a liberal cunt on the way to the office. ETA: this happened in a district 70 school in rural pueblo county, where hunting and ranching is a way of life, the libs are taking this whole state over from border to border and it makes me sick....
I would go ballistic if I was that kids dad and be pushing lots of buttons.
Luckily this isn't everything and isn't a true epidemic. My wife hears kids tell about their guns all the time and they don't get suspended. In may I am going into my little brother in laws middle school to show off (in a presentation) the ar15 we built together.
blacklabel
04-07-2013, 13:42
I would go ballistic if I was that kids dad and be pushing lots of buttons.
Luckily this isn't everything and isn't a true epidemic. My wife hears kids tell about their guns all the time and they don't get suspended. In may I am going into my little brother in laws middle school to show off (in a presentation) the ar15 we built together.
That's awesome. I went to middle school in Vineland just east of Pueblo and remember 6th and 7th graders bringing in their hunting rifles for show and tell.
[dig] Dig in for a change in the tide, take libs shooting, use sound, calm arguments, we can win over the middle ground crowd.
my sons friend is 11 years old and he was telling his friends he got a remington for his birthday at school last week, a teacher overheard asked him if he was using the word remington to refer to a gun? he sad yes and they suspended him for 5 days. my son asked me if he would be in trouble if it was him that got suspended for that, I told him only if he didn't call the teacher a liberal cunt on the way to the office. ETA: this happened in a district 70 school in rural pueblo county, where hunting and ranching is a way of life, the libs are taking this whole state over from border to border and it makes me sick....
How long ago was that?
How long ago was that?
last week
sellersm
04-07-2013, 15:08
Another over-reaction.
What have we got so far in the last month or so:
A male child suspended for throwing an imaginary hand grenade.
A male child suspended for making an imaginary gun out of a pop-tart.
Do you think the schools are trying to mentally neuter boys so that when the boys are older they'll be easier for a tyrannical government to control? This question is based on the FACT that we ARE headed for tyranny and that the federally controlled, public school system teaches a curriculum biased toward the idea that the government can replace God.
Yep. Agenda 21.
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Misandry (noun): a hatred of men.
he didnt deserve a felony but he damn sure should be shooting at cars with a bb gun......wuld have been fucked up if he hit someone in the face and they lost control of there car
Yep. Agenda 21.
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I don't know anything about Agenda 21 so I looked it up. http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/03/29/newtown-the-united-nations-and-agenda-21/
I believe they will build a model UN school with state of the art security, surveillance, police in front of the building – a prison for the children.
Now I don't know how much of this Agenda 21 stuff is hogwash but I do know that the federal government is turning out students who have high levels of self esteem but can't spell, don't know accurate history, cannot construct a proper sentence/paragraph, or perform simple math without a calculator/computer. I know most of them think they're entitled to everything I've worked for and they don't earn respect, they demand respect.
Sorry, I got way off topic.
brokenscout
04-07-2013, 15:59
Hopefully it scared the crap out of that kid..
brokenscout
04-07-2013, 16:00
My kid (6th grade) wears a RMGO, "Liberty's teeth" shirt to school:)
last week
my sons friend is 11 years old and he was telling his friends he got a remington for his birthday at school last week, a teacher overheard asked him if he was using the word remington to refer to a gun? he sad yes and they suspended him for 5 days. my son asked me if he would be in trouble if it was him that got suspended for that, I told him only if he didn't call the teacher a liberal cunt on the way to the office. ETA: this happened in a district 70 school in rural pueblo county, where hunting and ranching is a way of life, the libs are taking this whole state over from border to border and it makes me sick....
Yet another reason to homeschool.
Yet another reason to homeschool.
Then you get put on the terrorist watch list.
That's where it's heading with this administration I'm afraid.
Um...problem is is that a lot of cities have changed the definition of what a firearm is.
In some cities even a nerf gun is considered to be a firearm. If I remember correctly Denver considers anything that shoots a projectile by gas, compressed air, or chemical propellent to be a firearm...so they would consider a BB gun/paintball gun/nerf gun to be a "firearm".
buckshotbarlow
04-07-2013, 16:32
I have a strange feeling, as do many others that this is becoming the norm. Us gun owners are starting to become the gays and lesbos of the 80's and are being treated as such. I feel bad for the kid, and hope the kids parents do something about it...
speedysst
04-07-2013, 17:21
Ok, first of all, the word is "would." Now that we have that clear, he was NOT shooting AT the car, he was shooting at an abandoned house. The car merely interrupted the trajectory of the BB as a matter of poor timing. It was an error on the part of the kid. Thats all it is.
he didnt deserve a felony but he damn sure should be shooting at cars with a bb gun......wuld have been fucked up if he hit someone in the face and they lost control of there car
Great-Kazoo
04-07-2013, 17:34
That's where it's heading with this administration I'm afraid.
Heading? it's there. Pay attention to the Under Construction signs along your child's learning process. Just wait until they decide to do a Gender Change day. This way everyone gets to see how the opposite sex feels , for a day. Or how about straight / gay day. make believe in another person's shoes. Yeppers it's not long , if not being done in some liberal bastion of higher education.
battle_sight_zero
04-07-2013, 18:31
I have a strange feeling, as do many others that this is becoming the norm. Us gun owners are starting to become the gays and lesbos of the 80's and are being treated as such. I feel bad for the kid, and hope the kids parents do something about it...
Still don't believe we are a minority as gun owners.
Things are gona get worse before they get better....
You are an optimist. I am afraid that after things get worse they are just going to slide downhill to damn bad.
motohooligan
04-07-2013, 20:03
I think I need to stop reading the forum. I get so pissed off every day.
my sons friend is 11 years old and he was telling his friends he got a remington for his birthday at school last week, a teacher overheard asked him if he was using the word remington to refer to a gun? he sad yes and they suspended him for 5 days. my son asked me if he would be in trouble if it was him that got suspended for that, I told him only if he didn't call the teacher a liberal cunt on the way to the office. ETA: this happened in a district 70 school in rural pueblo county, where hunting and ranching is a way of life, the libs are taking this whole state over from border to border and it makes me sick....
How can a kid be suspended for talking about a rifle?
buckshotbarlow
04-07-2013, 20:26
I think I need to stop reading the forum. I get so pissed off every day.
you haven't been here long...this is were u come to get your balls snip'd, rant and rave about politics, and deal with mods making fun of yaou and putting a nickname in red/pink...
I had something like this happen to my family. Three nieghbors boys were shooting a pellet gun at my boy. He came in and, not crying, said they were shooting at him. This drew blood. I obviously went over to find out what was going on and the kids knew this was not good. By the protesting it was clear they had ganged up on him 3 against 1. My boy was unarmed. When the father came out, he chewed on them a little but stated boys will be boys. All of them were between 8 and 10 years old. He then offered that I should shoot his kids to teach them. That was when I knew this was a lost cause. I am not going to take one mistake and follow it with another. For an adult to shoot kids (forget the legal issues) is the exact wrong lesson. BB, pelet and air soft guns are where they learn how to treat guns. Teaching them to point a gun and purposefully shoot somebody absolutely floored me. I called the cops on them. The issue was with the parents though. That is bad parenting. If they would have treated it seriously that would have been enough. We could have helped them all undestand what was wrong but not the way it went. BB guns can still put an eye out and in this case it would not have been an accident. Felony, that is way to much but just blowing it off... Not the best answer either. The cop was willing to press full charges, I was not after they decided to move (not just because of this). He got a job offer which was beneficial for all.
To be clear these parents in the article seem to have done the right thing. It should have been dropped at that point. My story was the polar opposite.
I think I need to stop reading the forum. I get so pissed off every day.
I get pissed off at what I see happening around us. I read on this board where other people are pissed about the same things I'm pissed about, that makes feel not feel so alone.
Then somebody posts about monky spanking or prancing ponies or some other crazy thing. [ROFL1]
This is a good place.
I had something like this happen to my family. Three nieghbors boys were shooting a pellet gun at my boy. He came in and, not crying, said they were shooting at him. This drew blood. I obviously went over to find out what was going on and the kids knew this was not good. By the protesting it was clear they had ganged up on him 3 against 1. My boy was unarmed. When the father came out, he chewed on them a little but stated boys will be boys. All of them were between 8 and 10 years old. He then offered that I should shoot his kids to teach them. That was when I knew this was a lost cause. I am not going to take one mistake and follow it with another. For an adult to shoot kids (forget the legal issues) is the exact wrong lesson. BB, pelet and air soft guns are where they learn how to treat guns. Teaching them to point a gun and purposefully shoot somebody absolutely floored me. I called the cops on them. The issue was with the parents though. That is bad parenting. If they would have treated it seriously that would have been enough. We could have helped them all undestand what was wrong but not the way it went. BB guns can still put an eye out and in this case it would not have been an accident. Felony, that is way to much but just blowing it off... Not the best answer either. The cop was willing to press full charges, I was not after they decided to move (not just because of this). He got a job offer which was beneficial for all.
To be clear these parents in the article seem to have done the right thing. It should have been dropped at that point. My story was the polar opposite.
Thank you for sharing this story.
centrarchidae
04-08-2013, 01:17
The Federals aren't turning out any students. They don't actually own any schools, except for maybe on military bases or Indian reservations.
The problem with schools is a lot more local than that. Too many teachers are ruh-tards themselves, and the (elected) boards let them get away with it, because the voters let the boards get away with it.
And then, the voters are also the parents.
Mrs. Centrarchidae teaches grade school. Or, I should say, she baby-sits ten-year-olds because she spends too damn much time on classroom discipline, because the parents refuse to exert any control over their little heathen savages.
"Oh, we empower our child to speak his mind" is Mommy's response to the little bastard who disrupts the class. I wish I were joking.
The best thing I can say about too many of her peers is that they're educated well beyond either intelligence or actual ability.
I don't know anything about Agenda 21 so I looked it up. http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/03/29/newtown-the-united-nations-and-agenda-21/
Now I don't know how much of this Agenda 21 stuff is hogwash but I do know that the federal government is turning out students who have high levels of self esteem but can't spell, don't know accurate history, cannot construct a proper sentence/paragraph, or perform simple math without a calculator/computer. I know most of them think they're entitled to everything I've worked for and they don't earn respect, they demand respect.
Sorry, I got way off topic.
Edited to add, from jim:
Or how about straight / gay day. make believe in another person's shoes. Yeppers it's not long , if not being done in some liberal bastion of higher education.
My college tried that. It fell apart: all of the guys wanted to be a lesbian for a day.
How can a kid be suspended for talking about a rifle?
I got an email from the principal of my son's school that the school administration considered suspending or expelling my kid because he had done websearches for a soft airgun that he wanted for getting straight A's. I was told that the only reason he didn't was because the search was done on his own time away from the school. They wanted me to know about the situation and asked me to handle it as the concerned parent.
Tell that principle that until he understands the 2nd amendment..... Try it! Don't they still teach the Constitution in School. For Heavens sake, you only have to read to the second one on the list!!
Aloha_Shooter
04-08-2013, 13:01
Tell that principle that until he understands the 2nd amendment..... Try it! Don't they still teach the Constitution in School. For Heavens sake, you only have to read to the second one on the list!!
Hell, he doesn't understand the 4th amendment either. I am utterly amazed at how some petty officials think they have the right to teach their view of sexuality to someone else's kids (even as young as grade school) and monitor their websearches on their own time away from school but don't have any responsibility for teaching actual American history, civics, etc.
Chad4000
04-08-2013, 13:21
I got an email from the principal of my son's school that the school administration considered suspending or expelling my kid because he had done websearches for a soft airgun that he wanted for getting straight A's. I was told that the only reason he didn't was because the search was done on his own time away from the school. They wanted me to know about the situation and asked me to handle it as the concerned parent.
How were they able to monitor web searches when away from school?
I am a little worried about the daycare my almost 3 year old goes to. walked in the other day and a boy had a set of legos that very vaguely resembled a gun.. the owner started yelling at him, "no guns! no guns!"... the reason I am worried is because my son learned the phrase "shoot you down" somewhere... (Im thinking movies about airplanes or something...) and has repeated that lol....I think it's only a matter of time before i get a phone call saying my son "threatened to shoot (down) another boy" or something lol
How were they able to monitor web searches when away from school?
I am a little worried about the daycare my almost 3 year old goes to. walked in the other day and a boy had a set of legos that very vaguely resembled a gun.. the owner started yelling at him, "no guns! no guns!"... the reason I am worried is because my son learned the phrase "shoot you down" somewhere... (Im thinking movies about airplanes or something...) and has repeated that lol....I think it's only a matter of time before i get a phone call saying my son "threatened to shoot (down) another boy" or something lol
They check the history of his internet searches and visits on his iPad.
sellersm
04-08-2013, 13:48
They check the history of his internet searches and visits on his iPad.
This why you choose to "opt out" of those stupid iPad programs!!
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Aloha_Shooter
04-08-2013, 14:07
Just how do they think they have the authority to check anything on his iPad? If it's not provided by the school they have no business looking at it.
Chad4000
04-08-2013, 14:12
Just how do they think they have the authority to check anything on his iPad? If it's not provided by the school they have no business looking at it.
that's what Im saying... maybe they did give it to him??
sellersm
04-08-2013, 14:49
Many schools are now letting students have iPads to use, as part of some kind of special, pilot 'program'. My friends' kids had this opportunity and he opted them all out of them, when the school couldn't provide any reasonable security, privacy validation, etc. So I'm assuming this is what jaypkay was referring to...
sellersm
04-08-2013, 15:08
jaypkay: is this covered in the user agreement for the school's iPad? Might want to check. If it isn't, you may want to have a 'conversation' with the principal. In any case, it's a good "teachable moment" for you and your child about how technology is used today to monitor people (him and us)!!
Byte Stryke
04-08-2013, 15:13
traffic monitoring over the schools proxy
Byte Stryke
04-08-2013, 15:46
Wait, wait, wait, isn't the education system so horribly underfunded that our per capita blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Yup, seen this before in previous generations. Give money to the school system by any means and often it doesn't go towards rewarding teachers, or renovating buildings. It goes to (in the modern reiteration) buying every freaking kid an ipad. Because that'll educate em.
Cheaper than books
I personally would have gone with Kindle...
just saying
jaypkay: is this covered in the user agreement for the school's iPad? Might want to check. If it isn't, you may want to have a 'conversation' with the principal. In any case, it's a good "teachable moment" for you and your child about how technology is used today to monitor people (him and us)!!
iPad was part of the school program. At the time seemed like a nice tool for kids to learn technology. I don't recall what the heck the legal terms said but I think that the iPad is considered school property. In any case, I had a serious conversation about how the internet, online dialogue and technology can also be problematic and that he has to be careful on how he exposes himself and what he puts out there regarding himself. This goes not just for this issue of being monitored but also because there are so many nutjobs out there preying on our children.
bigshane
04-08-2013, 17:32
...also because there are so many nutjobs out there preying on our children.
I think there are far less stranger nutjobs preying on children than we are led to believe. Most of the worst shit that happens to kids is from people they know and trust.
ETA, teaching them to be as safe as possible online is important and I do so with my teen.
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