5 rnd limits?

[bryjcom]

I will be hunting with my M14 this season.

I believe the law is only 1 in the chamber and 5 in the rifle but I don't own any 5 round mags. Will I get in trouble if I use my 20 rounders and only put 5 in it.

[mightymouse]

yes

And you would be suprised, theres just about a 5 round mag for everything - AR's, SKS's, M1 Garands, Carbines, AK-47/74's, etc. etc. I'm sure theres a 5 round M-14 magazine out there.

C-Products makes a 5rd mag. Word of caution, it sits flush with the bottom of the rifle and is a MOTHER to get back out. I'd personally buy a ten round mag and drill/pop-rivet it to stop at 5rds, then at least you can get it out later.

[bryjcom]

C-Products makes a 5rd mag. Word of caution, it sits flush with the bottom of the rifle and is a MOTHER to get back out. I'd personally buy a ten round mag and drill/pop-rivet it to stop at 5rds, then at least you can get it out later.


That sounds like the best idea. I can buy 10 rounders locally.

[Marlin]

Get the 10 rounder and use dowels to stop at 5.. Much easier to get out than a rivet..

[mightymouse]

Get the 10 rounder and use dowels to stop at 5.. Much easier to get out than a rivet..

Yah thats true, same as a mag limit for a tube shotgun. I just thought 'rivet' cause then there's NO way a DoW guy can say he was over the round count.

[sniper7]

as long as you have something in the mag that will limit it to 5 rounds you are okay. shotguns are a total of 3 rounds. They make plastic plugs you put into the mag tube that limits it.
For your M14, i would take the same advice given here. just make sure it limits it to 5 rounds. I was elk hunting last month with a muzzleloader and DOW came around, checked licenses, hunter orange, and gun compliance. Its the first time i have even been checked, but lucky for me i know the laws. he said he gives a lot of tickets for guys who dont have all there gear in compliance. There are a lot more DOW guys out there during rifle season due to the increase in hunters.

Also, make sure when you are driving you don't have a round in the chamber. the mag can be loaded but not one in the mag. Just read your big game guide free from walmart and you will be GTG.[Beer]

[bryjcom]

Thanks guys.

I ended up just putting a dowel in my 20 rounder and it limits it to 4 rounds. Better safe than sorry.

As far as checking for blaze orange. Did he measure you? I have a orange hat and orange vest. Will that be enough?

Also do you still have to keep the liver and heart with the animal?

[car-15]

Thanks guys.

I ended up just putting a dowel in my 20 rounder and it limits it to 4 rounds. Better safe than sorry.

As far as checking for blaze orange. Did he measure you? I have a orange hat and orange vest. Will that be enough?

Also do you still have to keep the liver and heart with the animal?

yes on the orange, no on the organs.

[sniper7]

Thanks guys.

I ended up just putting a dowel in my 20 rounder and it limits it to 4 rounds. Better safe than sorry.

As far as checking for blaze orange. Did he measure you? I have a orange hat and orange vest. Will that be enough?

Also do you still have to keep the liver and heart with the animal?


he didn't measure, but he made sure we had it. As long as you have a cheap orange vest and some sort of orange hat, you are good to go. I have one of those super cheap hats and vests from wal-mart and throw the hat on and the vest over the back of my packframe and i am good to go. I think orange is the most ridiculous thing in the world, but i also don't hunt during rifle season.

I don't gut the elk. I never even cut into the cavity at all. I quater everything, take the backstraps, all the quaters with the bone in (saw off the lower part of the legs under the joint for easy carry), get the neck meat, the head with cape attached (i get free wall mounts that way!) and whatever other cuts of meat I can find. When you are 5 miles back in, its comes down to weight, and the few pounds that you can get by gutting the animal isn't all that worth it to me. I give some back to the scavengers and other animals so they can enjoy a meal, but always end up with well over 200 lbs off the elk (at least the last 2 these last 2 years)

I don't like liver anyways, although I am sure my mom would enjoy it. And I don't like to eat the heart. So it would be a waste of weight to haul it back and give it to the dogs or throw it outside the camp which would just attack predators.

[pierce33]

I was out yote hunting and was stopped by a dow officer, he only stopped me because he saw that i had a 20 round mag in my AR, Luckily i have always used the rivet method while out hunting. I just sacraficed acouple mags many years ago. Again its better to be safe than sorry. Theres to many ways to loose your hunting privledges these days. Can you imagine anything worse than that!!!

[HunterCO]

I was out yote hunting and was stopped by a dow officer, he only stopped me because he saw that i had a 20 round mag in my AR, Luckily i have always used the rivet method while out hunting. I just sacraficed acouple mags many years ago. Again its better to be safe than sorry. Theres to many ways to loose your hunting privledges these days. Can you imagine anything worse than that!!!

You and the dow officer are mistaken there is no magazine limit for small game furbearers. You can hunt yotes with a 100 rnd beta c-mag if you want.

I personaly have two colt 10 rnd mags that I use for yotes and p-dogs. I like them because they don't stick very far out of the gun and make it better when useing a bi-pod.

[pierce33]

Well i dont know why a game warden would tell me that then??????

[Marlin]

'Cause He most likely had no clue...


I have run across several like that...

[car-15]

You and the dow officer are mistaken there is no magazine limit for small game furbearers. You can hunt yotes with a 100 rnd beta c-mag if you want.

I personaly have two colt 10 rnd mags that I use for yotes and p-dogs. I like them because they don't stick very far out of the gun and make it better when useing a bi-pod.
+1 no round limits on small game.

[cowboykjohnson]

some people just wanna act like they know! had a sheriff hassle me for a half hour attempting to tell me i had to wear orange while dove hunting!

[sniper_tim]

Well i dont know why a game warden would tell me that then??????

Funny, was in a similar situation and asked a game warden several questions about hunting small game and magazine limits. He didn't have a clue. I drove 30 miles to a local DOW office and nobody in the building had a clue!!!! The agent at the counter picked up the game regs and started thumbing through it looking for the answer.

It happened to still be big game season in the area, so I think it confused them about what was legal. Anwho, just goes to show you that you had better know the laws, cause the warden may not, afterall they are human. I've been stopped by a warden every time that I've hunted (bird hunting and big game hunting), except first season last year, when I was in the field when the warden came through camp.

[pierce33]

well thanks for the info everyone, thats definitly good to know. Do you know where it says anthing in writing? I see the warden just about everyday and i'd like to have a conversation with him about this. Or is it just that theres nothing in writing about a round limit??

[HunterCO]

There is nothing in the regs that prohibit the use of high cap mags for small game so it's legal.

If you notice the big game regs specificaly state no more than 6 rounds allowed includeing the chamber. The big game regs also state no fully automatic weapons.

Nothing in the small game regs mentions anything about either. You can legally hunt small game with a machinegun. I personaly would never hunt with my m16 I don't thinks it's ethical. I live by the one shot one kill method.

I do hunt with silencers and you can do so for small or big game. You should have seen the hour I spent on the phone getting transfered to 15 different people untill I got an older guy who could answer if it was legal or not. I looked through all the regs and could not find anything that prohibited the use of a suppressor. I just figured I would make sure that I didn't miss something and get myself in trouble.

The old man I finally got transfered to laughed and said in the 20 some years he has worked for dow nobody had ever asked that question. He told me there is nothing in the regs that prohibit it so therefore it is legal. He just told me to make sure I have my paper work with me in case they stop me.

[elk_chase1]

+1 no round limits on small game.

You have to be careful...coyotes and Pheasants are both considered small game. But, Pheasants have a round limitation (3 for shotgun), and can only be taken with a shotgun, archery, or falconry! I wonder if there is a limit on the type of hawk I could use? ;-)