Buds Guns Not Shipping to CO

[Jmetz]

I was over at RFB for a bit this morning talking with Steve and they had a customer that was using them for a transfer of an M&P 15 from Buds. Buds called RFB this morning and said they will not ship it to Colorado. Steve asked if they would just remove the magazine (even though the ban is not in effect yet) and Buds refused.

[battle_sight_zero]

F them if true. I have bought many gun from them.

[Kraven251]

That is so stupid...I guess we have this to look forward to from others as well.

[battle_sight_zero]

I tried to call them, but their phone line won't recognize my phone inputs .

[Wakesurfer]

I just received 5 pmags from them last week. It was from their Colorado campaign program. Buds also shipped out last week a stripped lower receiver to my FFL.

[Jmetz]

this was probably someone uninformed.

Could be, maybe they confused Colorado for Connecticut. Either way they weren't letting this transfer happen.

[sniper7]

Something strange

[Cylinder Head]

I just received 5 pmags from them last week. It was from their Colorado campaign program. Buds also shipped out last week a stripped lower receiver to my FFL.

Same makes zero sense,

[Jmetz]

Just got off the phone with Jordan from Buds Guns and he confirmed any firearm that comes with a magazine higher then 15 rds will not ship to Colorado.

[Ronin13]

Well don't that just suck... I think it's going to be like this for a lot of ordering and what not from now on... especially after July 1st. I'm just worried I won't be able to get a Daniel Defense later this year (won't be able to afford it before 7/1/13) because of the magazine law and I'll have to have my FFL buddy in TX order it through DD and then ship it sans magazine... :(

Something strange
Not to derail, but am I the only one who saw these two words and immediately thought "...in your neighborhood, who ya gonna call?" [LOL]

[SideShow Bob]

And so it begins, just what the .gov and libitards want, a suedo firearms ban and standard capasity magazine ban.
The manufacturers will have to stop including magazines with their ARs as more online dealers start doing this to all of us here in Commierado.

[SuperiorDG]

But the Governor sent a letter in with the signed bill stating that LE only enforce the law as it was intended. I sure any mag/gun that can be converted will never be shipped to CO again.[Dunno]

[cysoto]

I was over at RFB for a bit this morning talking with Steve and they had a customer that was using them for a transfer of an M&P 15 from Buds. Buds called RFB this morning and said they will not ship it to Colorado. Steve asked if they would just remove the magazine (even though the ban is not in effect yet) and Buds refused.

I don't know who RFB is but, could the problem have been that the receiving FFL is in the city of Denver?

In our case, when we first started doing FFL transfers, I had a few companies whom would not ship to us because our address says "Denver, CO" (because of the city having its own ban on AR's). We had to contact these companies and inform them that, even though our address says Denver, we are really located in Unincorporated Adams County. We haven't had any problem receiving items from said companies after we explained it to them.

We have also received numerous M&P 15-22's from Bud's in the past and it has never been an issue (granted that the most recent one that we received was about a week ago so they could have changed their shipping policy).

[Dingo]

That's a damn shame... I always had a good impression of Bud's, and bought several items from them years ago. I don't get what the issue is with just swapping out a damn mag...

[cysoto]

I don't get what the issue is with just swapping out a damn mag...
Maybe they don't have another 10-round magazine to swap it with. Finding M&P 15-22 mags is no easy task these days.

[vossman]

[bulls]
WTF? Buds was my go to. Dammit!

[Monky]

I don't know who RFB is but, could the problem have been that the receiving FFL is in the city of Denver?



RFB is not in Denver. Littleton. Not Denver City or County.

[Great-Kazoo]

Just got off the phone with Jordan from Buds Guns and he confirmed any firearm that comes with a magazine higher then 15 rds will not ship to Colorado.

Tell him to send it SANS magazine.

[Hound]

Folks, its a bit early but this is gonna hurt. Cysoto is right, we saw another company stop selling mags to us until we explained it to them and they changed their policy until July 1st. I don't blame them though, if they hold true for ALL Coloradans. We need to get our own house in order come 2014. People need to remember. If it does'nt hurt, people will think this BS is ok when it's not.

[Dingo]

... If it does'nt hurt, people will think this BS is ok when it's not.

You have a point there. I hope this is painful enough to get all the conservatives who didn't vote last go round, off of their duffs and into the polls in 14.

[spideyar]

Damn, I now regret ordering my Neos and (outrageously overpriced) 30 round Thermold magazines from Bud's in January / February. I shouldn't have given them the business. Coloradans are getting screwed hard enough by the law, we don't need to get screwed AHEAD of the actual magazine ban taking effect.

[Jmetz]

I don't know who RFB is but, could the problem have been that the receiving FFL is in the city of Denver?

In our case, when we first started doing FFL transfers, I had a few companies whom would not ship to us because our address says "Denver, CO" (because of the city having its own ban on AR's). We had to contact these companies and inform them that, even though our address says Denver, we are really located in Unincorporated Adams County. We haven't had any problem receiving items from said companies after we explained it to them.

We have also received numerous M&P 15-22's from Bud's in the past and it has never been an issue (granted that the most recent one that we received was about a week ago so they could have changed their shipping policy).

When I called and talked to Jordan he said they won't send 30 rd mags to Denver and then said they won't send any firearm that comes with a magazine higher then 15rds to Colorado.


Tell him to send it SANS magazine.


Steve asked them to remove the magazine and they still refused.

[Great-Kazoo]

You have a point there. I hope this is painful enough to get all the conservatives who didn't vote last go round, off of their duffs and into the polls in 14.

Off their duffs or not. UNTIL R's have a viable candidate and not some over blown Pete Coors, or better yet Dan Maes the R's have no hope of "retaking" anything. Combine it with the "We need to act on Amnesty" NOW from the federal legislature kiss your red state butt goodby.

[Rooskibar03]

Well eff them. Utter bullshit

[4gunfun]

That sucks, I just joined the VIP club. [Rant1]

[jreifsch80]

for us northern guys, as for long guns just have them shipped to an ffl in cheyenne (i like guns and gear) handguns you could have them shipped there he'd take out the mags and then ship to your ffl

[blacklabel]

for us northern guys, as for long guns just have them shipped to an ffl in cheyenne (i like guns and gear) handguns you could have them shipped there he'd take out the mags and then ship to your ffl

I was wondering if that was kosher.

[ben4372]

Eff Bud's the law doesn't take effect for almost three months. Now if they said nothing go out after June(to allow time for transfer), that's understandable. Not to mention it is the FFL on this end who would get his but in a sling for handing over the gun with mag. They know they'll sell everything they have in the remaining states so why deal with out shit. I feel bad for any instate FFL that has highcaps in stock on July 1. Any dealers hear have a plan for July? Are they gonna start ordering Kali gun with 10 rounders? either way I emailing Bud and telling him he's a douche.

[Dingo]

Agreed. Fuck those fudds... I'll keep my money to support businesses that aren't too busy preemptively fellating Big Brother to serve their customers' needs.

[sneakerd]

Tomorrow is my Monday, guess we'll know more then.

[buckshotbarlow]

Sigh, the sign of the future...Now Colorado will be on the list of the "gun unfriendly" states...ANY THING ASSOCIATED WITH NY AND NJ sucks my nuttz!

[Dave]

That sucks, I just joined the VIP club. [Rant1]

I joined it in Feb. [Bang]

[mtnrider]

I find it funny that people are pissed off at Bud's for refusing to sell to Colorado. Everybody was cheering and clapping a month ago when companies starting to refuse to sell to "ban" states.

...Well guess what folks, we are one of "those" states now. Prepare for more companies to boycott us. (LaRue, Magpul?, etc.) Welcome to the new Colorado, it's not going to be pretty.

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[Jmetz]

I find it funny that people are pissed off at Bud's for refusing to sell to Colorado. Everybody was cheering and clapping a month ago when companies starting to refuse to sell to "ban" states.


People were "clapping and cheering" for companies that refused to sell to LE in ban states. Little different.

[spideyar]

I find it funny that people are pissed off at Bud's for refusing to sell to Colorado. Everybody was cheering and clapping a month ago when companies starting to refuse to sell to "ban" states.

...Well guess what folks, we are one of "those" states now. Prepare for more companies to boycott us. (LaRue, Magpul?, etc.) Welcome to the new Colorado, it's not going to be pretty.

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Bud's has zero tax implications and therefore next to no financial impact in CO. Stopping sales of firearms that have 16+ cap magazines in Colorado while it's still legal is not a moral stand. Magpul, HiViz, et al have a large impact on the Colorado economy. I stand for the companies leaving Colorado so this state gets no tax money from sales of products they have banned. Bud's decision to terminate sales to CO is just a chicken shit move that doesn't take an economic stand against the 2A infringement here.

I stand 100% by my regret for having done business with Bud's in Q1 2013. I also stand 100% by my purchases from Magpul in the same period.

[Birddog1911]

Sure hope that I don't have any trouble with Quantico Tactical, when I order my M&P 9 from them next month.

As an aside, I just ordered a Sig P226 Enhanced Elite from Top Gun Supply today, without issue. I also ordered 2 20rd Mec-Gar mags for it from Midway on Sunday.

[buffalobo]

Doesn't make sense from a business stand point.

Sell the gun without mag to CO resident at the same price and sell mag to someone in a "kinda" free state.

Easily make extra $30 per gun after small extra cost (labor to pull mag from package and cost of listing it for sale) of handling.

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[jreifsch80]

I was wondering if that was kosher.

i buy long guns in nebraska and wyoming allows out of state people to buy there too, with a pistol it would be legal but mafe sure the ffl wants to receive it just to take out the mags and send it to your ffl it's technically legal but might be a hassle also expect to pay for the transfer between dealers too

[sniper7]

I wouldn't go over the deep end guys. You figure California still gets guns from a lot of manufacturers. We will be okay,

[R&S]

Sniper7 is correct, my suppliers offer me California compliant firearm often but no one wants them (for the time being)

[Great-Kazoo]

I was wondering if that was kosher.

I'm not sure of the religious implications, However with long Guns ONLY, it's legal. handguns FFL - FFL

[Circuits]

I was wondering if that was kosher.

It is for rifles and shotguns, from an FFL.

[Aloha_Shooter]

For what it's worth, I think Bud's is taking a stand on their principles. They don't like the trend of legislation here and so don't want to do business here. Bear in mind Morse almost got that ridiculous liability legislation passed -- any vendor has to be thinking about whether they want to incur the possibility he revives it and they to incur legal expenses for unknowingly selling something to the next Holmes.

I don't like the consequences as a Colorado resident anymore than I'd have liked the loss in choice when insurance companies decided to respond to California's attempt to regulate insurance prices several years ago by ceasing the sales of new policies in California. I support Bud's for the same reasons I supported insurance companies back then -- it's a private business and they're making a business decision to support their principles by forgoing potential future income.

[battle_sight_zero]

I wouldn't go over the deep end guys. You figure California still gets guns from a lot of manufacturers. We will be okay,

Does not make it right. I don't want my stuff nuetured by some legislative jackass.

[mtnrider]

For what it's worth, I think Bud's is taking a stand on their principles. They don't like the trend of legislation here and so don't want to do business here. Bear in mind Morse almost got that ridiculous liability legislation passed -- any vendor has to be thinking about whether they want to incur the possibility he revives it and they to incur legal expenses for unknowingly selling something to the next Holmes.

I don't like the consequences as a Colorado resident anymore than I'd have liked the loss in choice when insurance companies decided to respond to California's attempt to regulate insurance prices several years ago by ceasing the sales of new policies in California. I support Bud's for the same reasons I supported insurance companies back then -- it's a private business and they're making a business decision to support their principles by forgoing potential future income.



That was my thought as well. Can't say I blame them? If I was a firearms vendor I would be thinking twice about doing business here or any other ban state. Why take the risk? From a business perspective if just not worth it.