Paper in Florida 4th-Grader’s Backpack: ‘I Am Willing to Give Up Some of My Constitutional Rights…to

[alxone]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/12/dad-furious-after-finding-this-crayon-written-paper-in-florida-4th-graders-backpack-i-am-willing-to-give-up-some-of-my-constitutional-rights/
The words are written in crayon, in the haphazard bumpiness of a child’s scrawl.
“I am willing to give up some of my constitutional rights in order to be safer or more secure.”
They’re the words that Florida father Aaron Harvey was stunned to find his fourth-grade son had written, after a lesson in school about the Constitution.

Harvey’s son attends Cedar Hills Elementary in Jacksonville, Fla. Back in January, a local attorney came in to teach the students about the Bill of Rights. But after the attorney left, fourth-grade teacher Cheryl Sabb dictated the sentence to part of the class and had them copy it down, he said.


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[buckshotbarlow]

yep, i'm gonna have a good talking to the kids about this one...I want to "help" them with their homework...

[Hound]

They should fire the teacher as an example to the rest.

[Cylinder Head]

This is happening all over the place. Guess nobody is being taught quotes by Jefferson and Franklin anymore.

[Singlestack]

This leftist indoctrination has trickled down from the college campuses. Its everywhere now. Only way to avoid it is to either pick your school and curriculum very carefully or else home school.

[Cylinder Head]

This leftist indoctrination has trickled down from the college campuses. Its everywhere now. Only way to avoid it is to either pick your school and curriculum very carefully or else home school.

They're going after home schooling to make sure you are indoctrinated properly now.

[Dave_L]

Things like this make me wish I had kids right now so I could dress them in pro-2a shirts and send them off to school.

[motohooligan]

Things like this make me wish I had kids right now so I could dress them in pro-2a shirts and send them off to school.
Then they get suspended for "dress code violations".

[losttrail]

Things like this make me wish I had kids right now so I could dress them in pro-2a shirts and send them off to school.

They would get suspended or expelled.

Last month I took one daughter to Washington DC for spring break. One day we were at the National Art Museum. I came out of the rest room, waiting in the rotunda for my daughter, and this lady comes up, wearing and Obama shirt, and says "Your shirt scares me."

My shirt was a long sleeve denim with the 2012 Quigley Buffalo Rifle Shoot and picture of a guy holding a Sharps rifle.

I asked her why my shirt scared her and she replied "Because it shows a gun." I asked her if she was afraid that it would start shooting buttons? I then told her that a gun is nothing but a tool and it is up to the person operating it as to what purpose it will be used. I told her that more people are killed by hammers each year than by guns and that more babies are aborted each year by doctors than by all gun deaths combined. She still didn't think that a picture of a gun should be allowed in public.

Morons are everywhere.

[Dave_L]

They would get suspended or expelled.



As much as I like to say I wouldn't care, I'm sure once I had a kid, I'd feel different. However, that doesn't mean I don't have the ability to personally drop him off every day where pro-2a gear. :) I just hate that we're being forced into the dark corners because someone might be offended or scared.

[Tinelement]

2 more yrs till mine start..

should be something to look forward too...

[losttrail]

As much as I like to say I wouldn't care, I'm sure once I had a kid, I'd feel different. However, that doesn't mean I don't have the ability to personally drop him off every day where pro-2a gear. :) I just hate that we're being forced into the dark corners because someone might be offended or scared.

The majority are now ruled by a vocal minority that are mislead by a Marxist Democrat party and media.

[blacklabel]

I'd be livid. My kid would show up to school with a copy of the constitution, preferably from Larue, in his backpack with my phone number on it.

[speedysst]

Why not a shirt printed with a quote like "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin. Would that violate the "dress code?"

[BushMasterBoy]

Schools abuse millions of children everyday. I know I use to be one of them.

[newracer]

They would get suspended or expelled.

Last month I took one daughter to Washington DC for spring break. One day we were at the National Art Museum. I came out of the rest room, waiting in the rotunda for my daughter, and this lady comes up, wearing and Obama shirt, and says "Your shirt scares me."

My shirt was a long sleeve denim with the 2012 Quigley Buffalo Rifle Shoot and picture of a guy holding a Sharps rifle.

I asked her why my shirt scared her and she replied "Because it shows a gun." I asked her if she was afraid that it would start shooting buttons? I then told her that a gun is nothing but a tool and it is up to the person operating it as to what purpose it will be used. I told her that more people are killed by hammers each year than by guns and that more babies are aborted each year by doctors than by all gun deaths combined. She still didn't think that a picture of a gun should be allowed in public.

Morons are everywhere.
You should have ended the conversation with "Your shirt scares me!"

[mtnhack]

This is pure bullshit. The parents have the proof in the crayon dictation, there should be some sort of recourse beyond simply pulling your kids from public schools. Isn't there some sort of contract that teachers must sign that says they cannot say whatever the fuck they want? There should be no opinions pushed. Facts and only facts, especially for kids under 16.
I always hear the complaint that the universities are biased with the liberal doctrine, but I have to say, I didn't get any of that. Maybe it was because I was in science, but I did have quite a bit of arts coursework in literature, history and philosophy. There was not ever a push toward any particular agenda. The only thing close was argument writing in a composition course, and that wasn't a big deal because they made you finish one side, then argue the other. I would think the only chance for a college professor to push an agenda would be in political science, religious studies, or maybe an advanced economics course.
Did anyone here ever get an agenda pushed on them in college? If so what was the course and your major?

[Teufelhund]

You should have ended the conversation with "Your shirt scares me!"


People who openly support Marxism are scarier than any gun.

[Hound]

Things like this make me wish I had kids right now so I could dress them in pro-2a shirts and send them off to school.

A few weeks ago we went down to the Whittington gun range (great place!). My son saw a Hoodie that he liked and bought it. NRA on the sleeves, no way to miss the pro gun stance it represents. I had not encouraged him to get it. In fact I made him wait till we left and he reminded me so I knew it was not an impulse buy. He wears it to school and I have not heard about any flak from it. That has to be close!

[Dave_L]

The Whittington center is absolutely badass! My brother, dad and I took a road trip a few years back and saw it. We had no idea what it was so figured we'd check it out. Pure awesome. That's all I can say.

Your kid makes me proud!

Also, I've determined we're effed (not that I didn't already know that) but talking with a somewhat "neutral" friend. He feels that all laws should evolve because society needs to be protected from itself. :( I've come to the conclusion that people are brainwashed to believe that pro-2a people are just ass backwards "good ol' boys" that have no clue how civilized society is now. :rolleyes:

[baglock1]

I then told her that a gun is nothing but a tool and it is up to the person operating it as to what purpose it will be used.

You should have corrected her by adding, "My shirt shouldn't scare you. I should."

Yeah, it wouldn't have helped the cause, but imagine her reaction!

[Cylinder Head]

Did anyone here ever get an agenda pushed on them in college? If so what was the course and your major?

I went to NYU, you do the math. The libs there bled their hearts out daily in every course.

[Aloha_Shooter]

I asked her why my shirt scared her and she replied "Because it shows a gun." I asked her if she was afraid that it would start shooting buttons? I then told her that a gun is nothing but a tool and it is up to the person operating it as to what purpose it will be used. I told her that more people are killed by hammers each year than by guns and that more babies are aborted each year by doctors than by all gun deaths combined. She still didn't think that a picture of a gun should be allowed in public.

I'd have been tempted to tell her that morons frightened by pictures scare me.

[mikedubs]

She still didn't think that a picture of a gun should be allowed in public.

The stupid, it burns!

[quondom fremd]

Did anyone here ever get an agenda pushed on them in college? If so what was the course and your major?

Everyday, natural resources is my major, but the courses not in the college are even worse (i.e. liberal arts)

[DavieD55]

This leftist indoctrination has trickled down from the college campuses. Its everywhere now. Only way to avoid it is to either pick your school and curriculum very carefully or else home school.

Home school is becoming more and more popular as public schools keep getting more outrageous all the time. They think they're getting away with it since their boy is in the oval.

[blacklabel]

Did anyone here ever get an agenda pushed on them in college? If so what was the course and your major?

I took a few business classes with no liberal agenda. I also took quite a few political science classes that were a liberal shit storm every single class.

[Squeeze]

The Whittington center is absolutely badass! My brother, dad and I took a road trip a few years back and saw it. We had no idea what it was so figured we'd check it out. Pure awesome. That's all I can say.

Your kid makes me proud!

Also, I've determined we're effed (not that I didn't already know that) but talking with a somewhat "neutral" friend. He feels that all laws should evolve because society needs to be protected from itself. :( I've come to the conclusion that people are brainwashed to believe that pro-2a people are just ass backwards "good ol' boys" that have no clue how civilized society is now. :rolleyes:

Truth said right there. 99% of us here are considered by the majority of populous as "crazy gun-toting psychopaths". The .gov is pushing that same message as well. We are definitely not being painted as a positive part of society. Sad as it is, in regard to the pro-Constitution folks and everyone else...it's becoming "us versus them". I like to think we are the majority but lately it seems Obummer is main-lining the water supply with his special "kool-aid" and the masses are drinking it up with big 'ol grins. Every day I wake up I ponder what anti-firearm news will plague me today? What rhetoric will be spewed from the mouths of our mis-informed Liberal enemies today? All it seems we can do anymore (since our voices seem to fall on politician's deaf ears) is play the waiting game. It seems we just have to wait and see how all this nonsense plays out. No matter how hard we pound our fists on the podeum, no matter how many of us tell the politicians we are the majority, they are going to defecate on our Constitutional rights. With Obummer in office, it's only going to get worse before it gets better. Okay, done being a Negative Nellie.

[Rucker61]

Did anyone here ever get an agenda pushed on them in college? If so what was the course and your major?

Just in one class that I can remember. "Modern Latin America", taught in the early 80s. Teacher was a full on Communist who would have blown Daniel Ortega in front of the class. Evidently she didn't like my ROTC BDUs or that my stated purpose in taking the class was to learn about our enemies in order to defeat them. Only F I ever got. I was a math major, so most of my profs didn't have enough of a personality to have an agenda.

[Gman]

Indoctrinate those young skulls full of mush early. It pays dividends at the polls later.

[Aperta]

I am willing to exercise my 2nd amendment right to be more safe and secure.

[tmleadr03]

Why not a shirt printed with a quote like "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin. Would that violate the "dress code?"

Heretical. No proof he ever said that.

[Rucker61]

Heretical. No proof he ever said that.

"Trust me. It's on the Internet" - Abraham Lincoln.

[KestrelBike]

This is pure bullshit. The parents have the proof in the crayon dictation, there should be some sort of recourse beyond simply pulling your kids from public schools. Isn't there some sort of contract that teachers must sign that says they cannot say whatever the fuck they want? There should be no opinions pushed. Facts and only facts, especially for kids under 16.
I always hear the complaint that the universities are biased with the liberal doctrine, but I have to say, I didn't get any of that. Maybe it was because I was in science, but I did have quite a bit of arts coursework in literature, history and philosophy. There was not ever a push toward any particular agenda. The only thing close was argument writing in a composition course, and that wasn't a big deal because they made you finish one side, then argue the other. I would think the only chance for a college professor to push an agenda would be in political science, religious studies, or maybe an advanced economics course.
Did anyone here ever get an agenda pushed on them in college? If so what was the course and your major?

My macro economics 101 professor wanted to take down the campus' American flag and replace it with the UN flag (this was in 2004).

Most professors were liberal then, and the place is a complete liberal indoctrination center now.

ETA: I'm on the "do not call" list for fund raising, for the caller's protection lol.

[O2HeN2]

"Trust me. It's on the Internet" - Abraham Lincoln.

A manager a couple levels up from me has this on his wall:

http://www.thezooom.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Abraham-Lincoln-Quotes.jpg

[Kraven251]

The Whittington center is absolutely badass! My brother, dad and I took a road trip a few years back and saw it. We had no idea what it was so figured we'd check it out. Pure awesome. That's all I can say.

Your kid makes me proud!

Also, I've determined we're effed (not that I didn't already know that) but talking with a somewhat "neutral" friend. He feels that all laws should evolve because society needs to be protected from itself. :( I've come to the conclusion that people are brainwashed to believe that pro-2a people are just ass backwards "good ol' boys" that have no clue how civilized society is now. :rolleyes:

People don't read history, and don't care to either. So, they fail to realize why civilized society remains civilized.