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bogie
04-15-2013, 14:42
Gone are the days of just dealing with deadbeats converging on folsom field..

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TRAVEL_POT_HOLIDAY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-04-15-05-21-37


DENVER (AP) -- Thousands of people are expected to join an unofficial counterculture holiday celebrating marijuana in Colorado and Washington this coming weekend, including out-of staters and even packaged tours. The events and crowds will test the limits of new laws permitting pot use by adults.
More than 50,000 are expected to light up outdoors in Denver's Civic Center Park on April 20 to celebrate marijuana legalization. Thousands more are headed here for the nation's first open-to-all Cannabis Cup, April 20-21, a domestic version of an annual marijuana contest and celebration in Amsterdam. Expected guests at the Cannabis Cup, a ticketed event taking place inside the Denver Convention Center, include Snoop Lion, the new reggae- and marijuana-loving persona for the rapper better known as Snoop Dogg.
Marijuana activists from New York to San Francisco consider April 20 a day to celebrate the drug and push for broader legalization. The origins of the number "420" as a code for pot are murky, but the drug's users have for decades marked the date 4/20 as a day to use pot together.
Marijuana remains illegal under federal law, and its sale without a doctor's recommendation isn't allowed yet in Colorado or Washington. Neither state allows open and public use of the drug. But authorities largely look the other way at public pot-smoking, especially at festivals and concerts, and entrepreneurs are finding creative ways to capitalize on new marijuana laws.
One of them is Matt Brown, co-owner of Denver's new "My 420 Tours," which gives traveling pot users everything but the drug. Brown has sold 160 tour packages to visiting pot smokers for the April 20 weekend. Prices start at $499, not including hotel or air.
The tour sends cannabis tour guides to pick up marijuana tourists at the airport in limousines, escort them to Cannabis Cup and other Denver-area marijuana celebrations and deposit them at a hotel where smoking - tobacco or reefer - is permitted on room patios.
Marijuana tourists on Brown's tour can add extra days of touring medical marijuana dispensaries and commercial growing operations. A cannabis cooking class is another option. Five-day tours run $649 to $849.
Brown, a medical marijuana patient who is new to the travel business, says his tours will enable sharing of pot but not selling it. Eighty percent of his clients are coming from outside Colorado - meaning it's illegal for them to bring marijuana from home. And because commercial pot sales in Colorado don't start until January, out-of-state visitors can't yet buy pot at Colorado's 500-plus dispensaries.
Despite the legal barriers, Brown said his tours quickly filled to capacity and he had to turn away would-be cannabis tourists. He's hoping to book future pot-themed weekends if the April 20n weekend does well.
"People are fascinated by what's happening here, and they want to see it up close," Brown said. "We want to make sure people don't come here, land at the airport, rent a car and drive around stoned all weekend."
The tour group isn't affiliated with the Cannabis Cup, sponsored by High Times Magazine, which has run similar events for medical marijuana in nine cities. The magazine's editorial director, Dan Skye, says this month's U.S. Cannabis Cup was timed for the April 20 weekend.
"4/20 is the national stoner holiday, for lack of a better word," Skye said. "It gets bigger every year, and this year, after the legalization votes, it's going to be absolutely huge."
The magazine planned to award Snoop Lion with a "lifetime achievement" award at a Denver ceremony Friday. A Cypress Hill/Slightly Stoopid concert was planned Saturday at the iconic Red Rocks Amphitheater just west of Denver. Both events sold out weeks ago.
A few dozen miles northwest of Denver, the University of Colorado in Boulder will try to dampen pot celebrations on April 20. The campus once held the nation's largest college 4/20 celebration, drawing an estimated 10,000 in 2010. The legendary smokeout was cited by Playboy magazine when it named Colorado the nation's top party school in 2011 .
After the Playboy mention, the university stepped up efforts to shut the celebration down. Campus officials last year roped off the site of the smokeout, Norlin Quadrangle, reducing the 4/20 crowd to a few hundred protesters. The school planned another shutdown Saturday.
Celebrations were planned in Washington state, too, though April 20 isn't as broadly celebrated as Seattle's annual Hempfest, which draws hundreds of thousands of people to a waterfront park every summer.
The April 20 celebrations in Washington included a Seattle party being put on by DOPE Magazine at an artist work space and studio. About 1,500 were expected for glassblowing demonstrations, music, dancing and a bar where revelers can vaporize their pot, plus the judging for the "DOPE Cup" - an award for the best bud. There will be a smoking tent set up outside, along with food trucks to combat any cases of the munchies.
"It's pretty monumental," said DOPE editor in chief James Zachodni. "This is the first time in the U.S. there's been a cannabis holiday with a legal aspect to it."
Back in Colorado, longtime pot user Andrew Poarch says this year's April 20 observations in Colorado have taken on epic significance. He's joining dozens of friends to hire a bus from Colorado Springs to attend Denver's Cannabis Cup.
"It's going to be a lot bigger, a lot more people," he predicted. "People are trying to outdo themselves because it's a party and a celebration. We beat prohibition. It's a pretty big deal."

Ronin13
04-15-2013, 14:49
I've always poked at them when they're out celebrating 4/20 in saying "Jeez, you people are terrible! Why are you celebrating Hitler's birthday!?" [Coffee]

akumadiavolo
04-15-2013, 15:56
No worse than the drunks running around at every other holiday they can use as an excuse to get wasted.

Great-Kazoo
04-15-2013, 17:08
just like st paddy's day, only with less violence.

Bailey Guns
04-15-2013, 17:22
I don't know about the less violence part. Most of these people will be the same ones that "occupied" city parks around the country.

Clint45
04-15-2013, 17:29
I don't know about the less violence part. Most of these people will be the same ones that "occupied" city parks around the country.

I would not say "most" . . . lots of people from out of state flying in for this. Occupy had a lot of homeless drifters involved with it, many of whom were drunks and tweakers . . . and they would prey on the hippies and Libtard yuppies. Any "violence" involved with the 420 celebration will be out-of-state hippies who can' handle Denver THC wandering into the alleys off Colfax and getting mugged.

Dave_L
04-15-2013, 17:37
The worst part about most pot heads is their inability to care about anything beyond what munchies they have. Other than that, they're mostly harmless.

electronman1729
04-15-2013, 18:01
Does anyone want to start a hotdog stand near this event with me? Think of all the money we could make. Hell even we could sell bottled water

bogie
04-15-2013, 18:09
Does anyone want to start a hotdog stand near this event with me? Think of all the money we could make. Hell even we could sell bottled water

Or mountain dew!

I love America.

Logan
04-15-2013, 18:15
I've always poked at them when they're out celebrating 4/20 in saying "Jeez, you people are terrible! Why are you celebrating Hitler's birthday!?" [Coffee]

I never put those two together. I'm stealing this.

colorider
04-15-2013, 21:42
"Marijuana remains illegal under federal law, and its sale without a doctor's recommendation isn't allowed yet in Colorado or Washington. Neither state allows open and public use of the drug."

Tens of thousands are going to gather in Denver to openly break the law. And the law will do nothing about it. Maybe Dickenlooper will be ripping some bong hits with them.

ben4372
04-15-2013, 22:22
"Marijuana remains illegal under federal law, and its sale without a doctor's recommendation isn't allowed yet in Colorado or Washington. Neither state allows open and public use of the drug."

Tens of thousands are going to gather in Denver to openly break the law. And the law will do nothing about it. Maybe Dickenlooper will be ripping some bong hits with them.
It's things like this that undermine the credibility of the government. How's about the local and state Gubment stop enforcing NFA laws? Full-Auto sancuary city. I'm in.

XJ
04-15-2013, 22:26
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Blockhead
04-15-2013, 22:28
Stoned minions are easy to control.

killarney
04-15-2013, 22:33
http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/hipped-core-drill-machine.jpg
"we have drum circles popping up here, here and here"

sniper7
04-15-2013, 23:22
Hell, I think I need to sell some tours. Drop them off in downtown near a dispensary, and head out to the airport to do it again! $500 ought to do it!

Digi
04-15-2013, 23:48
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/154851/cartmans-plan

Hound
04-16-2013, 05:45
We can't demand our rights while wanting to take somebody else's away.

and before you say its not a right, this is their pursuit of happiness. You don't have to like it, do it or even be around it but you should support it. That is what freedom is unless you think only your type of freedom should be supported. If that is your stance then you must agree with Bloomberg because thats how he sees Americas future freedoms..... only from his ideals. If they do something more than watch TV and eat Doritos then maybe you can have an opinion about what they did. At that point the issue should be with the action and not the pot.

Also, I have never smoked the stuff. Even people who have never shot a gun can support us.

n8tive97
04-16-2013, 07:07
I've always poked at them when they're out celebrating 4/20 in saying "Jeez, you people are terrible! Why are you celebrating Hitler's birthday!?" [Coffee]

I am using this one too.... Thanks

Dave
04-16-2013, 08:09
I've always poked at them when they're out celebrating 4/20 in saying "Jeez, you people are terrible! Why are you celebrating Hitler's birthday!?" [Coffee]

Hitler was anti gun too?

Bailey Guns
04-16-2013, 08:25
We can't demand our rights while wanting to take somebody else's away.

and before you say its not a right, this is their pursuit of happiness. You don't have to like it, do it or even be around it but you should support it. That is what freedom is unless you think only your type of freedom should be supported. If that is your stance then you must agree with Bloomberg because thats how he sees Americas future freedoms..... only from his ideals. If they do something more than watch TV and eat Doritos then maybe you can have an opinion about what they did. At that point the issue should be with the action and not the pot.

Also, I have never smoked the stuff. Even people who have never shot a gun can support us.

You need to rethink why comparing 2A rights with smoking weed are not the same. Fucking triple face palm...

Dingo
04-16-2013, 08:32
I'm just gonna keep my lil' Libertarian nose outta this whole bit... even dead horses have feelings... :-)

Bailey Guns
04-16-2013, 08:38
If you want to argue on a state's rights level, that's one thing. But it appears Hound is attempting to make the stretch to a US Constitutional level...even though he's loosely quoting from the Declaration of Independence.

On the state level, fine. People in CO now have the right to enjoy a little weed. It's still illegal federally just like some things having to do with gun rights are illegal. I may not like it or agree with it. The "pursuit of happiness" no more gives anyone the "right" to smoke weed in violation of federal law than it gives someone the "right" to engage in pedophilia.

Again, whether you or I like it or not, the law of the land (federally) recognizes that not only are rights not absolute, but the federal gov't has some authority over what goes on in the states. A lot more than I agree with, I might add. But, I'm not in charge and I don't get to make the rules. So I have to live with it or attempt to change it within the system.

Dingo
04-16-2013, 08:59
I practice a private Libertarianism these days, and adhere to it's principles with or without O-hole's blessing. :-)

Bailey Guns
04-16-2013, 09:03
As much as I despise Obama, he's got nothing to do with it. As a matter of fact, he's even said he wouldn't sic the DoJ on Colorado. And the federal power grab started way before Obama came onto the scene. He's a disaster for the country but he can't be blamed for everything.

waxthis
04-16-2013, 09:11
Good time to test out the new Drones...?

Dingo
04-16-2013, 09:14
True, but he does seem to think he has autocratic authority as the personification of the Fed Gov, so he gets my vote for the blame as it stands right now. And for the record, I didn't much care for Bush either. He may have not attacked the 2nd Amendment as doggedly, but his Patriot Act/NSA business was right in lockstep with the rest of the overarching satanic agenda for a globalized police state.

rondog
04-16-2013, 09:15
Bush is coming.....

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Dave_L
04-16-2013, 09:26
I'm gonna make some brownies and go sell 'em. "Yes, these are Colorado made brownies. $10 for 2." Lol. Once they're high, they won't know the difference.

Bailey Guns
04-16-2013, 09:27
I'd call 'em "Colorado Grown" brownies.

Hound
04-16-2013, 09:33
If you want to argue on a state's rights level, that's one thing. But it appears Hound is attempting to make the stretch to a US Constitutional level...even though he's loosely quoting from the Declaration of Independence.

On the state level, fine. People in CO now have the right to enjoy a little weed. It's still illegal federally just like some things having to do with gun rights are illegal. I may not like it or agree with it. The "pursuit of happiness" no more gives anyone the "right" to smoke weed in violation of federal law than it gives someone the "right" to engage in pedophilia.

Again, whether you or I like it or not, the law of the land (federally) recognizes that not only are rights not absolute, but the federal gov't has some authority over what goes on in the states. A lot more than I agree with, I might add. But, I'm not in charge and I don't get to make the rules. So I have to live with it or attempt to change it within the system.

You can face palm all you want. I don't believe in demanding your rights while saying it is ok to deny them to another group. In the 1800's you had the 'Right' to buy anything you wanted including Cocain, Pot or any other drug that floated your boat. Where do you think 'Coke' got its name from? This was the same as with all the guns at the time. Then, along with alcohol, the Government came along and started having an opion on this to the point of creating an Amendment baning Alcohol and heavily regulating drugs. They were really on a tare to regulate everything, including guns. There is a connection. You just like your side while feeling it is ok to crap on the other because it does not affect you. That sounds like a lot of what I heard in those Senate hearings. "I am a hunter and only need 3 bullets so I support the magazine ban", "I don't have a gun so ban them all" It's not right. We should always support the right of a group (any group) unless it is truly against the common good and that bar should be VERY high. Remember that what is at the bottom of every gun bill currently passed:

"Safety clause. The general assembly hereby finds, determines, and declares that this act is necessary for the immediate preservation of the public peace, health, and safety." And its BS!

My way of thinking is stay out of my business unless I am affecting my nieghbor and even then I better really be causing a problem. Pot is no different from Alchohol. Tax it but leave them alone. You should even support it in the name of all of our rights. This is especially true when it is not hurting others.

Bailey Guns
04-16-2013, 10:13
I'm not denying rights to any group. But to argue that smoking weed and the 2A are in the same league on a US Constitutional level is foolhardy. I'm also not arguing that the federal gov't hasn't egregiously usurped authority from the states. Doesn't change the fact that we don't live in the 1800s and smoking weed, whether you and I like it or not, is illegal on the federal level, it's not a "right" on the federal level, and that's the law of the land as it now stands. You don't have to like it, I don't have to like it. But we both have to live with it or change it within the system. Your other option is to disregard federal law and potentially face the consequences. You'll have every "right" at trial to argue the federal gov't doesn't have the authority to enforce anti-marijuana laws. Good luck with that. Fortunately for a lot of pot-smokers, the feds really aren't interested in Joe Citizen who smokes a little weed.

To have strong convictions in terms of limiting federal powers is an admirable thing. I'm all for giving power back to the states and to the people where it belongs. But I'm also a realist which means I'm also pragmatic when it comes to recognizing the realities within which we live. And that's the problem with libertarians. They live in a fantasy world of how things should be instead of how things are.

Just like the people spoke in Colorado re: legalizing marijuana, they've also spoken in terms of gun laws. As far as I know, the representatives and senators who wrote and passed these laws, were elected legally by a majority of people in their districts. As much as I dislike it it's pretty easy for the other side to argue it was done within the system we have and according to how our legislative process works. I, and you, have every right to work within the system to oust those lawmakers who supported the anti-gun laws and vote others in who will change them.

And I'm as conservative as they get on this forum...especially when it comes to individual liberties. But you can't argue that one group that gets their way through the legislative process is right but another that gets their way through the legislative process is wrong, and I'm not trying to do that. Just like the anti-smoking laws. I don't smoke, never have. But I recognize an assault on freedom and liberty when I see it and I'm entirely against the anti-smoking legislation and laws. I was also against Amend 64...only because I felt it didn't belong as an amendment to the state constitution. Legalize smoking pot all you want but not through a constitutional amendment.

The 2A guarantees your right and mine to possess firearms. There is nothing anywhere in the Constitution that allows you to make the same specific argument about smoking marijuana. Obviously you could argue that the powers not specifically granted to the federal gov't are reserved for the people (and the states). But at this point the federal gov't has decided it does have the power to regulate drugs and alcohol and to this point, no one has been successful in arguing that they don't...with perhaps the exception being the 18th/21st Amendments.

Delfuego
04-16-2013, 10:25
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Jer
04-16-2013, 11:37
just like st paddy's day, only with less violence.

No shit. This was my first thought too.

colorider
04-16-2013, 12:12
For me this has more to do with the "law" Open container on St. Paddy's day? You bet your ass you will get a ticket for it. Smoking pot in public which is NOT legal yet.. No tickets will be handed out. Even for those with an MMJ card, smoking in public is not allowed. So again, not legal. I am also pretty sure that everyone that is buying and selling weed at this event will not be arrested. Selling beer or liquor without a permit.. Even handing it out for free on public property where it is not allowed. Youbetcha, your ass is going to jail. If this were a liquor event, you would have to show ID proving you are of legal age. Do you think they will have this set up for the dopefest to make sure the smokers are of legal age? Or if they have an MMJ card? Nope. The hippies are above the law at this point.
Like, hate or neutral on the mj laws, they are laws with rules that need to be followed. This gathering will pretty much show Joe Public that they can do whatever they want without penalty.

Ronin13
04-16-2013, 12:34
For me this has more to do with the "law" Open container on St. Paddy's day? You bet your ass you will get a ticket for it. Smoking pot in public which is NOT legal yet.. No tickets will be handed out. Even for those with an MMJ card, smoking in public is not allowed. So again, not legal. I am also pretty sure that everyone that is buying and selling weed at this event will not be arrested. Selling beer or liquor without a permit.. Even handing it out for free on public property where it is not allowed. Youbetcha, your ass is going to jail. If this were a liquor event, you would have to show ID proving you are of legal age. Do you think they will have this set up for the dopefest to make sure the smokers are of legal age? Or if they have an MMJ card? Nope. The hippies are above the law at this point.
Like, hate or neutral on the mj laws, they are laws with rules that need to be followed. This gathering will pretty much show Joe Public that they can do whatever they want without penalty.
THIS!

Sawin
04-16-2013, 13:01
So the way I see it is that if we get enough gun owners to convene peacefully in a public location, we should be able to trade and sell between ourselves, too. Right? HB 1229 be damned? It's not even a federal law like weed....

Ronin13
04-16-2013, 13:09
If you're going downtown this weekend...
http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/don-t-forget-to-bring-a-towel.jpg

Hound
04-16-2013, 14:13
So the way I see it is that if we get enough gun owners to convene peacefully in a public location, we should be able to trade and sell between ourselves, too. Right? HB 1229 be damned? It's not even a federal law like weed....

I like this!

colorider
04-16-2013, 14:33
How about a 30rd magazine swap and greet after July ? I'm sure they would embrace that with open arms. Sure as shit they would have the swat teams out arresting everyone partaking in " illegal arms trading ".
God forbid you enforce laws against people partaking in illegal drug selling, using. Dipshits.

Jer
04-16-2013, 17:15
How about a 30rd magazine swap and greet after July ? I'm sure they would embrace that with open arms. Sure as shit they would have the swat teams out arresting everyone partaking in " illegal arms trading ".
God forbid you enforce laws against people partaking in illegal drug selling, using. Dipshits.

I would argue that your last example is almost as pointless.