View Full Version : Arrest for open carry
keylay31
04-17-2013, 09:20
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/345714/free-cj-grisham
Great footage of a shitty event. Worth the watch. Something I noticed that they didn't point out in the article is the the cop drew the pistol across the sergeant's head when he disarmed him.
My question: what are the laws about this in Colorado? I know the open carry laws, but what about interactions with officers? What can they detain you for? At what point do you need to show ID? What do you have to tell an officer you are concealed carrying (the .45)? I'd like to know the details of the law like this Sargent seemed to. Are there any good consolidated references on this topic?
Lastly, we should have an Open Carry Day ever year in Colorado in an effort to educate the public and the cops about its legal status.
Bailey Guns
04-17-2013, 09:35
Lots of discussion on this event HERE (http://www.ar-15.co/threads/99387-War-Veteran-Arrested-for-%E2%80%9CRudely-Displaying%E2%80%9D-Rifle-in-Texas).
keylay31
04-17-2013, 09:42
Dammit. I thought I searched enough... Now I'm one of "those"... haha. Admin, please delete/merge threads.
EDIT: I would like to request that this thread not be deleted/merged. The other thread has turned into a flame war about whether or not you should be doing that. I am interested in aspects of the CO law, which I believe merits a different thread. Leaving it in the CC forum (rather than General Discussion) should keep out some of the riff raff. Let me know if you disagree.
SamuraiCO
05-10-2013, 14:46
He was at the NRA convention last weekend. An AR manufacture gave him a pick of anything they make to replace his weapon that was confiscated. He said he was fairly certain he would get his back so he was leaning towards one for his wife. . . the one with pink highlights.
If we allow this to be the norm it will become the norm. He is right to fight and bring attention to the issue. That is a clear example of what scares a lot of us... A police state. I don't think most cops are like that but they do exist and what I think got him in the most trouble was stating he was going to press charges. The fact is he should have deescalated, got out of there, keep the video and then pressed charges after they let him go. Is it right no, but we have to be smarter than they are. That is how we stop this from being the norm..
I saw a young man open-carrying in Englewood last evening. He went into the local liquor store in the King Soopers parking lot at S. Broadway & Floyd. Had a Ruger semi-auto (SR-9 I'm guessing) in a thumb-break holster. Really hope it wasn't someone from here.
Lastly, we should have an Open Carry Day ever year in Colorado in an effort to educate the public and the cops about its legal status.
Well, those organized mass open carry days sure worked out well for CA didn't they?!
Anti-gun bills have NO trouble getting through the CO legislature right now. I don't see even the slightest need to provoke the Dems to impose even more regulations on gun owners.
10mm-man
05-15-2013, 08:21
I saw a young man open-carrying in Englewood last evening. He went into the local liquor store in the King Soopers parking lot at S. Broadway & Floyd. Had a Ruger semi-auto (SR-9 I'm guessing) in a thumb-break holster. Really hope it wasn't someone from here.
Why, because he went in a liquor store? What is the CRS that say's you can't? I thought I read that you couldn't but honestly don't know anymore....
Its cool to smoke pot and open carry now!
Its cool to smoke pot and open carry now!
I don't know about that... Technically you can't be a pot user and purchase a firearm, so why would carrying one while being a user be any different?
Lex_Luthor
05-23-2013, 00:03
What's wrong with walking into a liquor store while open carrying? Doesn't mean a person is going straight to the cooler and slamming 10 beers before leaving the store and then driving home. Is there anything wrong with picking up a 6er, driving home, putting your gun away and enjoying a nice cold beer in the evening?
ChadAmberg
05-23-2013, 15:59
I saw a young man open-carrying in Englewood last evening. He went into the local liquor store in the King Soopers parking lot at S. Broadway & Floyd. Had a Ruger semi-auto (SR-9 I'm guessing) in a thumb-break holster. Really hope it wasn't someone from here.
Let's see...
"Bad guys don't wear holsters."
Its cool to smoke pot and open carry now!
No can do.
From the El Paso County Sheriff CCW site:
http://shr.elpasoco.com/Support+Services+Bureau/Concealed+Handgun+Permit.htm
Can I obtain a concealed handgun permit if I
use or possess marijuana for either medical or
recreational use?
No, Statute 18-12-203
The Sheriff cannot issue a permit to carry
concealed to any applicant who is an unlawful user
of or addicted to a controlled substance, which
includes marijuana. The statute says that “whether
[a permit] applicant is an unlawful user of or
addicted to a controlled substance shall be
determined as provided in federal law and regulations.”
Despite Colorado’s laws, marijuana continues to be unlawful
under federal law.
Let me clarify a bit on my original statement. The young man going into the liquor store open-carrying was not the problem. The problem was the holster was pure shit in regard to quality and retention. It's your call what you feel comfortable retaining your firearm, but when I see garbage like that now I have to be concerned for someone else tearing it off your hip and using it against you/me. If you choose to OC, that's on you, but get the handgun in a quality holster with adequate retention. I have said on other threads I don't care for OC and think it's just a need for attention IMO.
HoneyBadger
05-23-2013, 17:56
Back on topic, this video is sickening. I stopped watching 3 minutes in after the LEO said that he was exempt from the law. I hope these assholes get stripped of their badges, fired, and then barred from ever owning firearms. Clearly they do not know or understand the law which they are entrusted with upholding.
***this is absolutely not an attack on LEOs, but an attack on these individual scumbags. I hope they rot for it.
i would also like to know what the laws in Colorado are regarding detention.
if this happens to someone, are we expected to just bend over and take it up the ass and hope that a jury sorts it out later?
Carrying and smoking pot would be the analog of carying and drinking from an open bottle of whiskey.
That being said, maybe the way to answer this question is to ask if anyone has ever been hassled or contacted by cops while carrying, over the fact that they are carrying? What happened?
One member here was contacted at a grocery store in Arvada a year or two back in response to a call of "man with a gun". After a short time, it turned into a nonevent.
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