More big brother....Now one beer and its off to the pokey.
Really?
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More big brother....Now one beer and its off to the pokey.
Really?
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so happy we are looking to AU for all of our lawsQuote:
When Australia dropped its BAC level from .08 to .05, provinces reported a 5-18 percent drop in traffic fatalities.
Some people produce close to this level on nothing more than eating rice... Rare, but happens
One beer is .2 to .3.
I have no problem at all with this. You are not responsible, go to jail. Drink 2 cases for all I care, just don't strap into a 2 ton car and go tooling about because you don't care about anything else.
Not even close to gun control or 99% of the other crap they push down our throats.
We already have that as our limit here in Colorado.
.05-.079 BrAC - Driving While Ability Impaired (DWAI)
.08 - above BrAC - Driving Under the Influence (DUI)
For those under 21:
.02 - .049 "Baby DUI" - Class A traffic Infraction; second or subsequent violation is a Class 2 Misdemeanor
I think .08 is too low as it is, and like Cofi said, why do we need so much inspiration from AUS? How about instead of following or striving to be like everyone else, we be a little independent for a change?
People are sometimes effected by low BAC due to body weight, metabolic rate, genetics, or an empty stomach . . . but few people would be significantly impaired an hour after drinking a single beer or glass of wine. A single dose of a cough syrup like NyQuil could put you over the lowered limit, as could driving with a hangover. I think the NTSB should focus on texting drivers instead . . . they are a far worse problem . . . or how about stripping schizophrenics of driver licenses . . . perfectly legal for psychotics and even the mentally retarded to have a driver license once they manage to pass the written test on their 10th attempt and the driving test on their 5th try. And what about octogenarians who are now either legally blind or suffering from dementia? Those people are real hazards. Going after someone who had a beer with dinner or had some NyQuil under "zero tolerance" at random checkpoints is bullshit . . . if they were involved in an accident, that's a different story.
I have no problem with this I might be for it. As I see it driving is a privilege not a right like firearms. I know there was a supreme court case saying driving is a right under the bill of human rights. I dont agree with that ruling as there are plenty of other ways to travel with out driving especially when you had one too many...
It boils down to generating more revenue.
ok...bigger argument then..Quote:
Originally Posted by Aperta
is societies accepted form of transportation reasonably expected while you are in search of happiness? I think so... couple that with penalties that are clearly outrageous and over the top, and we have a problem. I dont think it's fair to punish people for something that might happen... DUI check points dont even make you swerve to catch the eye of a cop. they literally engage you for zero reason, and slam you for something that might happen. as in you might have a wreck later tonight, which might result in an injury.. it, like everything else, is just revenue generation.
one beer an hour will already put you over the limit. average cost of a dui is roughly $10k.. every single person that leaves a bar on any given night is over the limit. if they are concerned about safety, put a cop right there everyday. they arent. they post a car on heavy traffic nights or something once in awhile, and they basically get their pick of whoever is leaving that night...