Background checks and trading

I understand the law changes after the 1st that background checks will be required for sales; two questions:

1) does having a CCW circumvent this since one has already been done? In other words, is a background check at a FFL is required on every single purchase?

2) will background checks be required for trades as well? Even trades? Also +/- cash trades?

1) no
2) yes

I thought it's
1 yes
2 yes
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The bills to accept CCW instead of background checks never passed, so it's meaningless as far as CBI is concerned.

Yes, a background check is required for every single purchase. A purchase may be 5 guns at once (1 background check) or 1 in the morning, another one in the afternoon (2 separate background checks). It can even be one single check for 3 guns from 3 different sellers, assuming you all show up at the same time to the FFL (and assuming the FFL will cooperate with that).

CBI will charge the FFL $10 each time the check is run. That's separate from whatever your FFL will charge you for the service (law says $10 max, for whatever that's worth). Assume your price for a (legal) FTF transfer goes up at least $20 on Monday.

One other fun fact...

If the buyer fails the background check, the FFL is now supposed to run a check on the seller before turning the guns back over to them. Oh yeah, at least another $10 to CBI for that too.

See update regarding this part - pg6.

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Originally Posted by Dr_Fwd

I thought it's
1 yes
2 yes
.?

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To back up what Brian just posted cocerning question #1-
http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite.../1251622199756

Why is it I see very few background checks being done for private arms.

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If the buyer fails the background check, the FFL is now supposed to run a check on the seller before turning the guns back over to them. Oh yeah, at least another $10 to CBI for that too.

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That just killed any private person from taking anything to a gun show. Not passing the check is one thing but then running another check on the owner as well.....

Number 1 is actually two different questions so it would look like this

1) no/yes
2) yes

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Originally Posted by Brian

The bills to accept CCW instead of background checks never passed, so it's meaningless as far as CBI is concerned.

Yes, a background check is required for every single purchase. A purchase may be 5 guns at once (1 background check) or 1 in the morning, another one in the afternoon (2 separate background checks). It can even be one single check for 3 guns from 3 different sellers, assuming you all show up at the same time to the FFL (and assuming the FFL will cooperate with that).

CBI will charge the FFL $10 each time the check is run. That's separate from whatever your FFL will charge you for the service (law says $10 max, for whatever that's worth). Assume your price for a (legal) FTF transfer goes up at least $20 on Monday.

One other fun fact...

If the buyer fails the background check, the FFL is now supposed to run a check on the seller before turning the guns back over to them. Oh yeah, at least another $10 to CBI for that too.

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Would that only apply IF the FFL takes possession of the firearm?

I wasn't aware that the FFL needs to take possession. So this scenario is what I see. I meet the buyer at FFL. We ask the FFL do to a bg check on the buyer. At no point to I ever intend to hand over the firearm to the FFL. Buyer passes, I walk out to the parking lot and hand over the firearm. FFL makes his fee, but never needs to add the firearm to their logbook.

Now, I know there's so much confusion about everything, so I may be wrong. Is anyone clear about any of these crappy laws?

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Originally Posted by spleify

Number 1 is actually two different questions so it would look like this

1) no/yes
2) yes

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That's what I thought.

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Originally Posted by spleify

Number 1 is actually two different questions so it would look like this

1) no/yes
2) yes

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Ahh indeed it is, I was addressing the CCW question.