I guess David got his butt in the sling. 3D gun guy.

Well, it was bound to happen. A black eye for a high profile case. We'll see.

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A judge Wednesday morning signed an arrest warrant for Cody Wilson on charges relating to sex with a minor, local media reports.
The warrant, filed by the Austin Police Dept., accuses Wilson of engaging in intercourse and oral sex with a juvenile female under the age of 17. Investigators claim Wilson paid the girl $500 after the encounter. which allegedly occurred on Aug. 15 at the Archer Hotel.

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https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/b...ex-with-minor/

Whenever I see stories like this I often wonder about the legitimacy of the charges, or if they were fabricated just to ruin the reputation and jail the person that is resisting those in power.

A little too convenient, is t it?

"By any means necessary"



Those that present any risk to "the establishment" and resist it will learn the meaning of that statement.

That was my first thought when I heard about it, except he went on vacation to Taiwan and never came back.

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Originally Posted by Irving

That was my first thought when I heard about it, except he went on vacation to Taiwan and never came back.

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If it was a setup, would you want to come back to be arrested, humiliated, and go to court if you had an alternative (even if it's a life like Snowden?)

The stigma attached to underage sex crimes makes you guilty before proven innocent... nobody will want to believe you are innocent, and nobody will come to your aid, less they be tainted by your sickness.

I had that thought. In the article I read, the timeline wasn't made clear, but I guess someone who knew the girl told him that she was going to complain or something so he didn't come back. I don't know if he was contact by authorities at the time. I feel like it's too easy and effective for the gov to set someone up as a sex criminal anytime that they want to shut someone down for good. In this guy's case the age of consent was 17 and she was 16. Him paying her doesn't look to good. I'm not sure how'd I'd react to an accusation personally. On one hand I'd like to think that if he really didn't do anything, and it's just a set-up, just come back and work through it. On the other hand, seems like it'd be pretty easy to just live somewhere else and not have to deal with people hating on you in person. If he never comes back, this will all be forgotten by most people in what, a month? Most people in the country have no idea who this guy even is.

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Originally Posted by 68Charger

The stigma attached to underage sex crimes makes you guilty before proven innocent... nobody will want to believe you are innocent, and nobody will come to your aid, less they be tainted by your sickness.

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I honestly think if some serious shit were to start going down (e.g. active/preparatory confiscations, etc.), this is how they would try to slow-roll it...

Lots of folks with the "come and take it motherfucker" thought process who would never think of going down without a fight and imagine others would rally to defend, but likely haven't thought that a simple accusation and/or some fabricated evidence (trivially easy to create/obtain in most cases even without a bunch of "payoff" money, given modern HUMINT-mining capabilities and people's tendency to self-incriminate), and even their closest friends may turn away and say "the SOB got what was coming to them"...

Why create martyrs when they can create despicable criminals whose actions are (or would be at least, if actually true) beyond earthly redemption?

To wit, had that shit that went down in NV a few years ago with BLM, etc. been approached this way, those people would have been shunned and totally alone as opposed to seeing a variety of inter-state support inbound.


All that said, I'm curious how effective/foolproof (bullet-proof), and feasable, something like an FMRI based lie detector test is nowadays (haven't seen any recent research on this, just some older/early stuff), and the associated possibility of obtaining truthful statements which are beyond any possible doubt or reproach....

We all know that a basic polygraph is bullshit and with a $10 biofeedback machine and knowledge of interrogation/meditation techniques they can be manipulated (a good interviewer may still have their bullshit alarm go off, but intuition by itself means little), but would be interesting possibility to prevent/rectify false accusations or alternatively save a shit ton of money on legal proceedings...

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Originally Posted by DireWolf

I honestly think if some serious shit were to start going down (e.g. active/preparatory confiscations, etc.), this is how they would try to slow-roll it...

Lots of folks with the "come and take it motherfucker" thought process who would never think of going down without a fight and imagine others would rally to defend, but likely haven't thought that a simple accusation and/or some fabricated evidence (trivially easy to create/obtain in most cases even without a bunch of "payoff" money, given modern HUMINT-mining capabilities and people's tendency to self-incriminate), and even their closest friends may turn away and say "the SOB got what was coming to them"...

Why create martyrs when they can create despicable criminals whose actions are (or would be at least, if actually true) beyond earthly redemption?

To wit, had that shit that went down in NV a few years ago with BLM, etc. been approached this way, those people would have been shunned and totally alone as opposed to seeing a variety of inter-state support inbound.


All that said, I'm curious how effective/foolproof (bullet-proof), and feasable, something like an FMRI based lie detector test is nowadays (haven't seen any recent research on this, just some older/early stuff), and the associated possibility of obtaining truthful statements which are beyond any possible doubt or reproach....

We all know that a basic polygraph is bullshit and with a 10$ biofeedback machine and knowledge of interrogation/meditation techniques they can be manipulated (a good interviewer may still have their bullshit alarm go off, but intuition by itself means little), but would be interesting possibility to prevent/rectify false accusations or alternatively save a shit ton of money on legal proceedings...

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AFAIK, any type of lie detector (polygraph, body language, fMRI, etc) is always going to be subjective due to human nature...(we are not machines with digital code, we are analog and complex) FWIW, I've seen claims of 97% by companies who provide fMRI lie detection services. It's still a matter of probabilities, and not perfect.

There are likely a percentage of the population (Cluster B, maybe others?) that can defeat them with ease because they don't see it as a moral issue at all...their brains just don't work the same way. And of course they are the most dangerous.

Polygraphs (or any other technique) that use a human "examiner" is doubly subjective... because if the examiner has a bias against a person, they can affect the results. Multiple polygraphs with different examiners can maybe reveal this- but maybe not... a high profile person could never get an unbiased examiner, even less likely than getting a unbiased Jury (based on limited pool of examiners)... Even an fMRI needs the results interpreted, if they can write an AI to do it- that removes direct bias, but it's still limited by the interpretation of those who programmed it.