Odds on ol' Joe.

Quite the unprecedented election, Vegas odds for Joe Biden to have the nomination have dropped to 4/5 (dropping over 10% in just a handful of days), and nobodies even running against him. I foresee a concerted effort by the left to give him the boot, with less to due over the allegations (when has that ever mattered to either party?) and more to do with him being out of sight for a couple months, seemingly barely peeking out from the crack of his door.. and generally a weak candidate to begin with. I'm even seeing some MSM news on the allegations, which makes you go hmmm.

Might upset the market even more if his status is in question.

ETA: What I mean by "both parties" is not Kavanaugh, or derogatory, I mean when a party has invested time in their POTUS candidate, they normally aren't overly concerned about late-game skeletons. Just like the left probably thought they had a big "gotcha" with the off mic audio of Trump. Nobody who likes Trump cared about skeletons. An absence of skeletons was never Trump's selling point - and it's never been Biden's either. That's why this seems in some ways, a "get out of Biden" card that the left wants to take advantage of, where they wouldn't if it was any viable candidate in the exact same circumstance.

Not until more left of leftist demand an inquiry. The LAT OPED is calling for one Not looking good.

https://news.yahoo.com/editorial-tar...224332871.html




Of course when people defended Kavanaugh over something someone may have done, but not sure when or where. They were attacked by the #BELIEVE EVERY WOMAN. Crowd.

No that it's happening to uncle joe. The same crowd is saying Well that happened so many years ago. And no one remembers,so i doubt her story.


Susan Sarandon is supporting Tara too. Even AOC suggest "we" look in to it.

Just saw he's going to address the allegations tomorrow on "morning joe" whatever that is. We need to start a betting pool on that being a prince-Andrew level of disaster. I'm not sure what those odds would be, but there's... potential is definitely there for him to cluster-f$%k it to all get out.

Lefty fake news - PMSNBC. They'll handle him with kid gloves. Nothing tough.

Joe painted himself into a corner with Kavanaugh. I almost fainted when Juan Williams on Fox News couldn't come up with any excuses for Joe.

There's no way Biden can debate Trump.

He will be out before the convention.

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/wa...de-82865221937

11:58 - 13:20

Hate to link to that, but it gets amusing. Some serious LOL moments right in there. Glad he cleared up that e.g. there's nobody that's aware that's aware of anybody that's aware of awareness about nobody whose aware.

I don't think the allegations do him in, it's his inability to form a coherent sentence that they're scared of. How he got this far blows my mind.

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Originally Posted by blacklabel

I don't think the allegations do him in, it's his inability to form a coherent sentence that they're scared of. How he got this far blows my mind.

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This. I took the time to read up on this a bit last night. The allegations seem just as weak as every other allegation. This is an exercise to prove that he can't deal with normal political BS and everyone knows it. Interesting play, and interesting times.

Something to consider:
What if this is merely a ploy for the DNC to be able to hand-pick their candidate? Support crazy ol' JB until he becomes a liability and/or non-candidate (preferably last minute) and when he steps aside/drops out, slide in your preferred, pre-selected, uncontested candidate? None of the ugly press and bad optics from the previous election's obvious candidate-engineering/rigging by the DNC, yet same end goal.

Too conspiratorial? Not possible due to procedure/rules? I'm open to opposing opinions on this theory (thin as it is), but I wouldn't put anything past the DNC.


I will ETA that many, and possibly even the DNC may have initially believed him viable in the beginning. But he is practically the right's best asset at this point.

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Originally Posted by crays

Something to consider:
What if this is merely a ploy for the DNC to be able to hand-pick their candidate? Support crazy ol' JB until he becomes a liability and/or non-candidate (preferably last minute) and when he steps aside/drops out, slide in your preferred, pre-selected, uncontested candidate? None of the ugly press and bad optics from the previous election's obvious candidate-engineering/rigging by the DNC, yet same end goal.

Too conspiratorial? Not possible due to procedure/rules? I'm open to opposing opinions on this theory (thin as it is), but I wouldn't put anything past the DNC.


I will ETA that many, and possibly even the DNC may have initially believed him viable in the beginning. But he is practically the right's best asset at this point.

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I've kind of wondered similar things. It seems unlikely it was planned from step one - from a perspective of "why" as it would seem to cause more damage than good than pursing the desired candidate from the inset (only scenario might be if they wanted to bypass vetting) - that said, Biden has never been their "ideal" guy in a voting contest with Trump. So I do think this opportunity is presented as a get-outta-Biden card that many in their party want to play - and slide in some yet-unnamed woman cheating the process again. (probably not Hillary).

I don't understand enough of the process to even begin to guess what happens next though. If he drops... do they just "default" all the votes to the presumptive VP? There's seems to be real risk of a last-minute shake up, but I don't have an earthly idea what to anticipate actually happening. The NBC interview was fairly light, and he didn't screw it up "as-bad" as Andrew, but I don't think it went well for him. If they find any evidence of a complaint of any type being made in paper, he's a cooked goose. And they might want to ditch him early in the process instead of having that liability show up now in October.

One thing I note is that he is VERY careful trying to avoid saying anything negative about Tara - I'm wondering if that isn't for sake of a risk of a defamation suit... which could open up the university files to discovery. There is public evidence the campaign staff went through those files right after these allegations first emerged, which doesn't help their argument for clamping them down now.