Situation has been resolved. Thank everyone for their input.
Situation has been resolved. Thank everyone for their input.
He can only carry concealed without a permit if he owns or is in charge of the property that he is on. I don't believe that running security puts him in that position. Is he always in a facility that is in total control of the property owner?
Depending on your location, I know that you must be licensed as an armed security guard in both co spgs, and Denver, and most counties along the I-25 corridor. If he is only licensed as an unarmed security guard and not the proprietor of the business or facility he must have further certification, otherwise he is a huge liability to you and your business. Also, whether he had a person ccp or not, you are ultimately the final word on carrying or not, as if i were to carry on to your property and you asked me not to- even with a permit i must abide by your statement, since it was made verbal and in person i would have to leave the premises, if it was posted, i have trespassed onced entering your property, hope that clears it up.
I would immediately fire him for just ignoring your request in the first place - corporate hierarchy is a necessity to survive in todays cutthroat commercial realm!! - and depending on the hours, i might be able to help you out lol
Randy
Make sure is not carrying when you fire himQuote:
Originally Posted by NukeRJ
or make sure you are tooQuote:
Originally Posted by SuperiorDG
Scratch that,
Call the local PD and ask for an officer presence and tell them why.
He's not carrying plain clothed right now but the company does require my guys to be armed while they are there on duty. His statement is that while he is on duty he is not required to have the permit. He has had the class just waiting on the license. In Adams County as well as Thornton, I have never been questioned while plain clothed and carrying ( I do have my ccw) and been detaining someone waiting for leo to arrive to take over for me. Been asked what I was carrying but never asked for my permit. Im just trying to CYA myself and my guys. I did find that if you own the business you dont have to have a permit, but nothing on hiring someone and having them carry concealed.
Are you hiring by chance? lol
Thunder,
I checked several sources LEO and attorney and no one has heard of such a statue. Most commented same as you that they'd want to see the statue.
If it's real someone here will mostly have a statue that you can reference.
Good Luck.
Not an answer to your question but what seems to be a bigger question;
If he works for you, and he doesn't do what you tell him to do, why is the first part of this sentence still true? Another way of looking at this; why would I want to arm someone and pay them to be in my place of business if they can't follow instructions or I believe they are dishonest?
I'm not sure this is a CCW issue.
I reviewed all pertinent statutes and none are as your employee states. The only thing I could see for his argument is, the definition of a Colorado State Security Guard and him not reading/understanding that relates to employees of the state who are employed as security guards.