Do you oppose Senate Bill 13-195? If so, why?

I understand the opposition to most of the Bills being debated in the Senate but there is one which I thought that people on both sides of the gun debate would embrace. This is Senate Bill 13-195 which would put an end to online training for concealed-carry permits.

Over the years I have taken (and given) several CCW courses and, though I have learned a lot from every instructor, there are some courses that have focused a lot of attention on "the gun fight" but have completely ignored topics such as legal ramifications and Criminal/Civil Liabilities. Personally, I would like to see concealed-carry classes in Colorado standardized (like they are in states like Utah) where every instructor is teaching the same material and which requires the student to demonstrate not just proficiency in the use of a firearm, but also a course that thoroughly discuses topics such as situational awareness and conflict avoidance.

Most of the on-line courses that I have seen are nothing more than a regurgitation of the NRA First Steps course which, at best, offers only basic marksmanship skill. The other great limitation that I see with on-line courses is that the student's questions can go unanswered.

So, back on topic, do you oppose Senate Bill 13-195? If so, why?

Not opposed to this having to be an in person course. However I don't believe it should be some long drawn out day long rigorous course. Far as I am concerned I have not seen anyone shooting up places with a CCW or being unsafe that makes me believe the current in person instruction is of concern. The process of going through the process at the sheriffs office can be hard enough for most people. Don't scare them away, we need more people out there with permits. Cover safety, law, rules of force etc and some range time would be great

No. Fuck that noise. Why do we continue compromising ourselves into further and further regulation? Leave the 2A alone.

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Originally Posted by cysoto

I understand the opposition to most of the Bills being debated in the Senate but there is one which I thought that people on both sides of the gun debate would embrace. This is Senate Bill 13-195 which would put an end to online training for concealed-carry permits.

Over the years I have taken (and given) several CCW courses and, though I have learned a lot from every instructor, there are some courses that have focused a lot of attention on "the gun fight" but have completely ignored topics such as legal ramifications and Criminal/Civil Liabilities. Personally, I would like to see concealed-carry classes in Colorado standardized (like they are in states like Utah) where every instructor is teaching the same material and which requires the student to demonstrate not just proficiency in the use of a firearm, but also a course that thoroughly discuses topics such as situational awareness and conflict avoidance.

Most of the on-line courses that I have seen are nothing more than a regurgitation of the NRA First Steps course which, at best, offers only basic marksmanship skill. The other great limitation that I see with on-line courses is that the student's questions can go unanswered.

So, back on topic, do you oppose Senate Bill 13-195? If so, why?

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Tell me which of our other rights require a permission slip.

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Originally Posted by Teufelhund

Tell me which of our other rights require a permission slip.

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If I understand your questions correctly, you are implying that the Second Amendment guarantees the right of the individual to carry concealed weapons; is that right?

I don't embrace any further Gov control on the right to defend myself and my family PERIOD!

To further expand on my reply, if the "student" wishes to get the best instruction/experience possible, let it be their choice to seek out and obtain, not some government mandated "feel good" law.

I support it for the reason of reciprocity. It could have waited until other states cut us off, then there would be alot more support for it.

I don't think you should have to have any training for a CHP, so yes I am against the bill.

I don't believe that training to carry concealed should be required. It's not required to open carry.

They're simply instituting hoops to jump so that we can exercise a right. This isn't a privilege and shouldn't come with stipulations.