SHTF and Mag changes

So I was sitting at the welding table today, welding away and thinking! Always a good time for thoughts.

So.....

We (we is generally speaking as shooters) practice our mag changes as fast as we can, technical, but fast. Strip mags out for malfuctions, practice for competition, etc.

How often do we practice retaining our mags? Tac reload. If we are in a SHTF scenario, and we only have 6 mags to our person (or you can only take X amount with you), are we going to just pitch them on the ground and keep running????? What about your side arm?? I have 3, yes 3 mags for my M&P. If thats my go to side arm for SHTF (based on ammo supply WSHTF), should I be be practicing tac reloads more and learning to retain my mags???

All hypothetical!! Just throwing it out there! GO!

Would have posted in training, but just this is a hypothetical though, not tech!

I have a Roll-up pouch on my chest rig for mag recovery, supposedly holds 6 mags. Haven't tested it out yet.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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I also run a dump pouch, on my war belt. It runs super clean.

So when you guys run mag changes, you always take it out of the firearm and directly into the punch??

Cause I run a Rolliepollie (SP) too, but its just for range clean up.

Just asking!

Only retain mags if they have not been emptied. Do some IDPA , 3 gun and what ever they offer up @ Owl canyon. The 3 gun @ wcfw is open to all and you can go out, watch or participate.
http://www.wcfw.org/3_gun/3_gun.html

I've done both retaining empties and dump them.

If you're doing an emergency reload dump the mag on the ground and worry about collecting them if you live.

If you're doing administrative reloads retain them

Rolly polley on my left side also

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Originally Posted by jim

Only retain mags if they have not been emptied. Do some IDPA , 3 gun and what ever they offer up @ Owl canyon. The 3 gun @ wcfw is open to all and you can go out, watch or participate.
http://www.wcfw.org/3_gun/3_gun.html

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Yup. I get that. But.....

I'm asking "one second after", "lights out" senecio.

You gotta walk from point A to point B with "x" amount of mags for the rest of your life.

Do you practice retain?? As mentioned, hypothetical SHTF.

Just a thought, but if you are in a firefight, you change mags either when you can, or when you have to.

If you are changing "when you can" i.e. you are behind cover and you are about to move, then you retain the mag you are swapping out.

If you are changing because you have to, i.e. you are moving and run dry, then you drop it and keep moving.

If you survive the firefight and are not forced to leave the area, then you can always go scrounge your empties and any other empties that might be available. If you survive the firefight and are forced to leave the area, then what you dropped is probably not worth going back for. If you didn't survive the firefight, someone else will be scrounging off of you. Make the bastards look all over for whatever you dropped [Coffee]

As a rule, we practice both, tactical reloads and emergency reloads. This is done with every weapon, from shotguns to rifles, and pistols.

Be safe.

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Originally Posted by cstone

Just a thought, but if you are in a firefight, you change mags either when you can, or when you have to.

If you are changing "when you can" i.e. you are behind cover and you are about to move, then you retain the mag you are swapping out.

If you are changing because you have to, i.e. you are moving and run dry, then you drop it and keep moving.

If you survive the firefight and are not forced to leave the area, then you can always go scrounge your empties and any other empties that might be available. If you survive the firefight and are forced to leave the area, then what you dropped is probably not worth going back for. If you didn't survive the firefight, someone else will be scrounging off of you. Make the bastards look all over for whatever you dropped [Coffee]

As a rule, we practice both, tactical reloads and emergency reloads. This is done with every weapon, from shotguns to rifles, and pistols.

Be safe.

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Thanks Cstone! That's what I'm looking for.
As always you have a great insight.

So, as a civilian, would this be a realistic thought process?
Should I go back and scrounge, or should I keep moving??
Do M&P train to scrounge??
I ask cause I don't know.

In the next 10yrs I'm moving with 2 pre-teens........ And a wife!!

I think we need to practice both situations. Never know what you will run into..