Esquire Duped By Fake UBL “Shooter”
http://sofrep.com/18453/esquire-is-s...l-ubl-shooter/
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As much as I like to dodge the SEAL drama train these days, there are still a couple of big stories that have left the station before Naval Special Warfare’s WARCOM could put the brakes on. First female Navy SEAL? It’s coming, and in a way you’d never expect…
One story coming out of Joint Special Operations Command is that the Esquire “shooter” isn’t the shooter after all. To be clear, he wasn’t the point man that put the well placed rounds into UBL’s head that ended the terrorist leaders life. Sure he was there, and deserves credit but he wasn’t the man who shot UBL, and ended his life. And this is an important fact that must be clarified.
The actual shooter at Naval Special Warfare Development Group (NSW DEVGRU or SEAL TEAM 6) has continued to maintain his professional integrity and has not come forward with the story, and most likely never will. Looks like
Esquire and Bronstein are the ones who are really screwed, not their interviewee; our sources say he’s off cashing large checks from unsuspecting donors who bought the Esquire pity piece.
Here are some interesting insider facts:
- The “Shooter” was removed from his DEVGRU Squadron for talking about the operation openly after being warned to “can it’
- He was encouraged by leadership to remain in the SEAL community to finish out his career and gain his full retirement benefits
- Apparently against his concerns about personal security he has been very active on the public speaking circuit
One Anonymous JSOC SEAL we spoke with says…
There was a discussion among all the SEALs before the raid that none of them wanted to shoot UBL in the head in order to preserve his face for the pictures that we would need to take to help identify the body.
Ok, according to,”the shooter” ,he was the second man in the stack behind the point man. They had no backup and so because they were in a hurry it was just him and the point man that assaulted up the stairs. I don’t know a single SEAL who would be in a rush to assault the third floor with just two men, there is no hostage so there is no need to hurry. Also, all the people waiting on the third deck had the most time to prepare a defense, so why would you only assault the third floor with just two SEALS. This makes no sense and is simply NOT what happened.
The shooter claims that the point man took a few shots as the man sticks his head out the door…. Ok we all agree on that. But here is where is story goes sideways AGAIN. The shooter claims that the point man, after taking his shots towards the adult male standing in the door that he then turned his attention towards the women in the hallway. There were ZERO women in the hallway. Also, ZERO shooters are going to take shots at an unidentified adult male and then simply peal off without following up to see if he hit that target to go deal with unarmed women. After the point man engaged toward the unknown male (UBL) he DID follow his shots and entered the room. When he saw that UBL was on the floor and no longer a threat, he dropped his weapon and then at that point dealt with the unarmed females. Even the shooter and No easy day say that the point man handled the women.
My point is, the point man would have NEVER dropped his cover on the adult male had he not been 200% sure he was no longer a threat. According to the shooter, the point man stayed in the hallway to deal with the women. Simply not true because no SEAL I know would have dropped the cover on the male in the room that he had just shot at. The shooter now claims that he enters the room and looks at UBL and shoots him twice in the face as UBL was going for his gun. There was NO WEAPON found in UBLs room until about 5 min into the search and was found above the door on a shelf. Again, this has never been disputed by anybody, so if the shooter was so sure he was going for his gun….how could he see it??? His story is complete bull shit and he is covering his ass for the WHY he would have shot UBL at this point. IF the shooter is correct and is looking at an unarmed UBL, according to the ROE’s he should have simply detained UBL. NOT shot him in the head.
The shooter goes on to explain that he shot him twice in the head,,,,why did he do this when we discussed before the OP not to shoot him in the head for identification purposes. The FACT is that the point man DID connect and hit UBL in the head. The head shot was the ONLY thing that presented a target for the point man to shoot at….so thats what he shot at!!!! The point man, after shooting at the mans head,,,entered the room….saw that UBL was no longer a threat and then pushed the women back. The shooter was the 3 man into the room, and he just re-engaged into the body laying on the floor.
I’ve seen an article from Berghain (an author that actually was at the compound after the raid) He talks about blood splatter on the ceiling. While I don’t think that he is a CSI crime scene investigator he’s made comments that he thinks the blood splatter backs up the shooters story. Well the shooter is approx 6’4″ and UBL was approx the same height. That would mean the shots were level and not aimed up. The REAL shooter and point man is about 5’5″ and was shooting up the stairs toward the head exposed through the doorway. That would create the angle that is needed to splatter blood on the ceiling.
Everybody within JSOC knows the shooter is full of it. Shortly after the raid he was FIRED from DEVGRU because of his mouth and talking too much. This is something that is not told in the article either.. He’s the stereotypical guy who was running around at the bar telling all the chicks that he was the shooter. While indeed he did shoot, he shot the body as it was 99.9% dead and dying on the floor. The POINT MAN up the stairs landed his shots to the head, which is why he changed his focus to the women.
Interesting. Sorry to rain on your parade Phil but your guy is not the actual shooter.
Pretty good article wirtten by a former SEAL and he used multiple JSOC SEAL sources for this.
I'm also quite interested in the second sentence about the female SEAL...
FIND, FIX, FINISH, EXPLOIT, ANALYZE and DISSEMINATE (F3EAD)
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a547092.pdf
The above explains some of the methodology of the decisions made to kill "Geronimo". It was all run remotely like a drone is flown remotely. Choreographed and rehearsed for sure. But all the major decisions were made as it was happening in the US. I thought there was already a discussion about the shooters situation upon return stateside, but I don't want to derail the thread. I have pored over the book "The Finish, The Killing of Osama Bin Laden" by Mark Bowden, author of "Blackhawk Down" and it is a very good read. As to the factuality of the book, I can't say what part is fact and what is just embellishment.
