Jensens banned me from their facebook page

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Originally Posted by 68Charger

Next thing you know, there will be a dramatic increase in tragic Dremel accidents... I know my mill sometimes randomly shaves stuff off parts if I'm not careful... [gohome]

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Damn, you too.

Here is one for ya; person lives out of state buys mags today. Moves to Colorado; date stamps are after July 1. Or I move out of town buy 30 rounders but move back; a year in the future.

Hummm, big issues with this law.

Good gosh, what am I to do with all these pre-July 1, 2013 date stamped pmags? [Muaha]

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Originally Posted by UrbanWolf

I just hope folks to bought mags from WY outlet know about the date stamp. Because Jensen sure made it sound like date stamp doesn't matter.

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that is their business

they are running their risks

you just let them be

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Originally Posted by 10mm-man

Here is one for ya; person lives out of state buys mags today. Moves to Colorado; date stamps are after July 1. Or I move out of town buy 30 rounders but move back; a year in the future.

Hummm, big issues with this law.

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enormous issues

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Originally Posted by 10mm-man

Here is one for ya; person lives out of state buys mags today. Moves to Colorado; date stamps are after July 1. Or I move out of town buy 30 rounders but move back; a year in the future.

Hummm, big issues with this law.

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Perhaps it will work like our election laws. I intend to move to a gun friendly state, so while visiting there, I buy a bunch of pmags, but then I decide not to. I had the intention honestly, at that brief moment in time to move, but it miraculously fell thru. [shit-happens]

It's possession of a magazine holding more than 15 rounds which you did not continuously possess since before 7-1-13.

Proving it, without date stamps, not easy for the prosecutor. Proviing it, with date stamps, too easy.

Big issues, yes, but this isn't one of them.

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Originally Posted by 10mm-man

Here is one for ya; person lives out of state buys mags today. Moves to Colorado; date stamps are after July 1. Or I move out of town buy 30 rounders but move back; a year in the future.

Hummm, big issues with this law.

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Originally Posted by centrarchidae

It's possession of a magazine holding more than 15 rounds which you did not continuously possess since before 7-1-13.

Proving it, without date stamps, not easy for the prosecutor. Proviing it, with date stamps, too easy.

Big issues, yes, but this isn't one of them.

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From a prosecutors stand point; maybe not. But how about the cops who decides he wants to enforce it; is he gonna take your word you bought them while you lived out of state? How many people moved into (Colorado) after July 1 with a date stamped on the mag after??? Sounds like a big cluster F'...

Since the burden rest with the prosecution; are they going to use the date stamp for of a conviction?

It doesn't matter into the state from somewhere else. All my guns are illegal in New Jersey. Doesn't matter when or where I got them.

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Originally Posted by 10mm-man

From a prosecutors stand point; maybe not. But how about the cops who decides he wants to enforce it; is he gonna take your word you bought them while you lived out of state? How many people moved into (Colorado) after July 1 with a date stamped on the mag after??? Sounds like a big cluster F'...

Since the burden rest with the prosecution; are they going to use the date stamp for of a conviction?

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I have no idea if a jury would accept a post 7-1-13 date stamp as proof that a magazine wasn't continuously possessed since before 7-1-13. I would assume that most jurors would, though, since it's not easy to possess something in June, 2013, that wasn't made until July.

I can sort of see some prosecutor needing to produce a witness who can explain Magpul's date-stamp method to the jury, in order to make a date stamp admissible. But I don't see Magpul busting their collective asses trying to cooperate with that.

Where the defendant bought the magazine doesn't even matter once he's possessed it in Colorado, unless I'm badly mis-reading the statute.

Like you said, what a big cluster.