Shooting at School in Parkland, Florida

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Originally Posted by GilpinGuy

This is interesting:
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2018/02/15/g...hool-shooting/

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thats crazy. Glad the Grandma reported it. That would have been really really bad had he carried that out.

I hope he can get some help, but judging by the felony charges, he wont be seeing society any time soon.


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I believe these things would be less common if we were raising our boys to be real men.

Not entirely unrelated to my comment above...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ared-life.html

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...he was on his way to the bathroom on Wednesday hen he stumbled upon Cruz loading up one of his weapons.

'You’d better get out of here. Things are gonna start getting messy,' McKenna said Cruz told him, despite the fact that the two young men did not know one another.

McKenna then rushed out of the building 

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^^ It's hard to fault a 15 year old kid for getting scared and running away. But a little, irrational part of me does anyway.

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

^^ It's hard to fault a 15 year old kid for getting scared and running away. But a little, irrational part of me does anyway.

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He could have at least said something or told someone.

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

^^ It's hard to fault a 15 year old kid for getting scared and running away. But a little, irrational part of me does anyway.

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A little.

But boys have stepped up in the past. Here's a story I will always remember...

May 1998, just turned 17 year old Jacob Ryker gets shot twice (22 in the lung and 9mm in the hand) and still takes out school shooter.

Even though I was only 15 when this happened, I knew at the time that's how men should act, even young men.

Courage is a virtue but I'm not sure it's encouraged with boys and young men much anymore. And if boys aren't raised that way, most won't just magically learn it as men. There are mass shooting examples in which grown men didn't step up either. One in particular in our neck-of-the-woods.

These mass murders would be a lot smaller in almost every case if more men had the balls to fight back.

Courage is not the absence of fear, it is the ability to overcome fear and act anyway.

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Originally Posted by CoGirl303

Listening to Sean Hannity today, some psychologist said that the big thing she was afraid of was the ability for medical professionals and school staff to differentiate between someone with a mental illness who wasnt capable of something like this and someone with a mental illness who is capable of something like this.

Very challenging and could lead to dangerous legal precedents, unfair labeling, unfair restriction of rights, and so on and so forth.


Hannity is all in favor of former military, former leo personnel as armed security at schools, doing a security risk assessment, creating choke points into schools, security cameras, id badges for students, no one but parents, teachers, staff and students allowed in unless vetted and authorized beforehand. Treating schools like govt buildings.

We have the resources to make it happen and lock down every school in America...BUT...



what happens when these shooters realize the schools are now locked down from open access and they adjust their targets to unsecured venues? or they sit outside waiting for them to come out to get on the buses? or go to the playground? or they hit an outdoor graduation? Sit in a tree and open fire on the stands at a high school football game? a baseball game? a track event?

Beach fronts during spring break or during summer? parades, city square fairs and festivals? Carnivals, indoor and outdoor malls, more outdoor concerts, low security events and whatever else I can't think of right now, because they will adapt to the paths of least resistance to inflict the most damage.

As messed up as it is, I think school shootings are just the beginning unfortunately. [emoji20]


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They have- remember the church shootings?

There are quite a number of churches that have now been having their ushers trained in security measures: non-verbal asessments, startegies for shooter scenarios, plans to put in place for specific situations. Strategos is a security business that flies all over the states and trains church staff in providing security for the parishoners.

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We have a mental illness problem combined with the media glorifying it and the politicians grand standing on it.

So take someone with a mental illness and then give them the idea that they can be famous and almost immortalized in a narrative.

This is what is probably one of the biggest factors in the uptick.

Now factor in we have gone from a “sticks and stone may brake my bones but words will never hurt me.” And switch to a “everybody is a victim and deserves a medal.”

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Taken from another site and not even about the FL shooting. Sad all around.

He had his first court appearance today. Hopefully the State of Florida carries out a sentence swiftly and justly.