Kabul madhouse

Yesterday the US Gov said they are sending in troops just to secure the airport. They WILL NOT be going out to pickup Americans and give them safe passage to the airport. They said they are relying on the "goodwill of the Taliban" to let Americans get to the airport.

Have you ever heard anything more insane?

The Dailymail is now reporting that evac flights are half empty because the Taliban won't let people through to the airport.

Biden has never cared about helping those who've helped us.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/...-torn-country/

Define helping us?

No women, children or masks. Just a plane full of military aged men.

Go fight for your country.

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Interesting site to follow air traffic live out of Kabul. The don’t show US military aircraft but I was following a Quatar Air Force C-17 and Mi helicopter was scooting around the area.

Flightradar24 Free app.

That plane has got to smell funky as hell.

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Originally Posted by Rooskibar03

No women, children or masks. Just a plane full of military aged men.

Go fight for your country.

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Interesting. I thought the goal was to get out the local support folks AND their families?

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Originally Posted by Danimal

The main thing that we had to gain was a stable presence in a region that is spiraling into instability. The Taliban is now back in charge, and they have a modern outfitted military trained by us of about 300k people it will be a very different story in the region. Granted they will probably brutally kill about half of them and slaughter their families for working with us. I am not saying we are going to gain much at all by staying but I believe we have a lot to lose by leaving. Just because something has a cost and does not return money does not mean that it does not have value. I will make a prediction that in just a few years another threat similar to ISIS will emerge, they will be armed and trained around Afghanistan and they will be carrying the weapons we left behind. They will be bankrolled by Russia and China and will inflict damage on a much broader scale than Bin Laden was capable of. I am not talking about large scale attacks, I am talking strategic assassination's, attacks that are designed to change the way we live.

The alternative was to help a country remain stable enough to establish a way of life that they would be willing to fight for. The Taliban moved as fast as they did because they knew that eventually if the population was allowed to have hope and a normal life that they would die to protect it. They moved as fast as humanly possible to prevent any chance at hope because that is really the only thing that could have defeated their ideology. We declared a war on terrorism, a war on their ideology and that is not something that you can buy or bomb your way to victory. The only way we would ever be able to win would be to establish a population of people that had hope for their future.

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Yeah. I'm sure another 20 years is all that would be needed to civilized them and "stabilize the region."

Not about being civilized. They are going to do what they are going to do. In the 70s and 80s we show up and and arm a bund of extremists to fight Russia and then leave. That turns out really bad for us 20 years later. Now we show up and arm a bunch of extremists and leave... are you seeing a trend here? My point was, by leaving history repeats and we have no chance in accomplishing any of the goals we set out for because they were all ideological.

You can argue that it is a waste of time and money, but what is it going to cost after future attacks and we are right back at it again?

Wonder how many on that plane are Taliban headed over here to thank Biden?