Stolen Valor Act unconstitutional

so, less than 10% of the military is deployed to iraq/afghanistan. But, you couldnt serve you country because you dont agree with those wars? there were plenty of other place to serve,where you wouldnt be offended.

and then magically you will be prepared for war if we need you. there is much more to being a soldier than shooting an AR. much more. and much more than you will learn in a carbine class.

i never asked for anything extra for my service.

i was raised to believe a MAN would want to SERVE his COUNTRY.

a couple years out of your 80 years or so on the planet, as a thank you to all the country has given you. I believe that its right to serve. I guess you were raised differently.

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Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck

maybe people who dont serve, shouldnt be full citizens. you get all the benefits of citzenship, but did nothing to earn it, seems like special treatment.

i hate non vets.

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I love this guy!

Seriously, it is ok with the repeal of DADT.

[Beer]

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Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck

so, less than 10% of the military is deployed to iraq/afghanistan. But, you couldnt serve you country because you dont agree with those wars? there were plenty of other place to serve,where you wouldnt be offended.

and then magically you will be prepared for war if we need you. there is much more to being a soldier than shooting an AR. much more. and much more than you will learn in a carbine class.

i never asked for anything extra for my service.

i was raised to believe a MAN would want to SERVE his COUNTRY.

a couple years out of your 80 years or so on the planet, as a thank you to all the country has given you. I believe that its right to serve. I guess you were raised differently.

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Well good for you that you had loving parents who cared about you enough to teach you such things. Good for you that you chose to be in the military. None of that gives you the right to criticize everyone who doesn't make the exact same choices in life that you have. Last I heard you don't get to say where you go or what conflicts you fight in when you enlist. You keep acting like I can just sign up and then decide what I do, where I go and who I fight. That's not how it works. You of all people should know this.

Your shitty attitude towards those who didn't serve gives a bad names to those who did everywhere. I know lots.... LOTS of people who have either been in the military or currently in the military and NONE of them has your shitty outlook towards those who didn't. None. None of them think they're better than everyone else and none of them expect special treatment for what they've done. In fact, most would rather not even discuss what they've done or have it recognized as it makes them feel awkward. All they want is to do is get the job done, keep their brothers safe and then come home to be treated like anyone else. You clearly don't have that problem. In fact, your entitled attitude is the exact OPPOSITE of those who I respect and look up to and would do anything for who have served. I hate to say this but your attitude makes me not want to know anything more about you or what you've done because you just come off as a self righteous prick. If that's not who you are then you should choose what you say on this forum a little bit better because that's how you come off.

[Pop]

Let me take just a second to add my .02 to this discussion. It seems to have progressed from stolen valor to preferential treatment and such.

I have served for over 21 years as both and officer and enlisted. I joined-up when there was no war and not very many benefits for enlisting. Now, you have a 10 year old war and young men and women who continue to sign up for duty. The reasons for their service certainly varies: money, opportunity, the glory of combat, etc. The point is that they continue to serve our nation.

On this board, we have many current military, recently retired and old timers. I have respect for all. We also have many who can no longer serve to due to injuries and other issues: Brokenscout and Ronin13 just to name a few.

Do I want extra attention for my service? No. Most civilian folks who know me don't know what I do or where I have been. Do I think these young kids who continue to serve should receive some attention? Absolutely. There are many reasons not to serve (medical, financial, etc.) but these young kids continue to answer the call. Whatever your valid reason is for not serving, does not really matter because others have and will continue to do so. If I was hiring and I had the choice between a vet and non-vet, I would hire a the vet 100% of the time.

I personally thank this young generation of Soldiers every chance I get. I truly don't think I would have stayed 20 years if I was in the environment they are living.

I also thank those who support or Soldiers on this site and elsewhere.

Good day!

[Beer]

OK...I'll bite into this one.

People have been pretending to be veterans since the soldier was first needed. So F'ing what! People will continue to do it forever, whether it is illegal or not. If they are not stealing from it...who cares.

Those of us veterans know that those who talk the most are to be believed the least. Ie..the guy at the bar bragging to everyone about how he "was there" is usualy full of sh*t. This rule still applies. We understand what it means to be a quiet professional, we know how to spot who is one of us and who is a fake. There is no law against exposing and embarassing those sick individuals who pretend to be one of our brothers, should we be so compelled. I hate seeing some asshat pretend to be worthy of that uniform just as much as every other veteran. However, we have to get over it, we have to be the better person...a true warrior and sometimes just leave the idiots alone.

Like my mom told me when I was a kid: "Those who brag the most have the least to brag about." :)