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Originally Posted by sniper7
The media will make sure that they know who the jury members are including address and where their kids go to school.
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Originally Posted by sniper7
The media will make sure that they know who the jury members are including address and where their kids go to school.
Bet it won't take too long for the names to be determined by someone who REALLY wants to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by sniper7
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Originally Posted by sniper7
They really want the riots to start and then to influence the jury who are done for the night to freak out. Get civil unrest and then a conviction. Damm! for them this is better than Obama being reelected and sending shivers up their groins.
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Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy
I wonder what kind of radical freakazoid will take that position this time...
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Originally Posted by BlasterBob
A lifetime of protection at that if there is an acquittal or hung jury. As I watch what is played out at these last minutes I don't believe Zimmerman will get an acquittal, the givemethats, progressives, Al Sharptons, Politicians that I wont name and the MEDIA as the messenger will make sure the jury is shaking in their pants looking forward to a lifetime of fear. His only hope is that one of these jurist is brave enough to hold the line for a hung jury, so that he gets more time for the next trial and the mentioned get new targets. The GOVT has the resources and the backing to keep going after Zimmerman but really this about coming after the 2nd Amendment and the racial wrongs of the past that wont be forgotten. This is about punishing the Caucasian race, the 2nd amendment is seen by the other side as tool of the Caucasian that must be taken away. Sad that our great Country's justice system has come to this.
Disclaimer= I am not a racist or white supremacist but I can see the writing on the wall.
Terrible picture msnbc should not have shown thatQuote:
Originally Posted by battle_sight_zero
MSNBC is the worst news organization that our Country has. They should be banned for the good of our country! Ginsue, can you make it happen for us?? We know that you have the power!![Beer]
It is one of the factors, no one will even bring up. The other is the political fallout . Either way, i see the defense ask for an appeal, based on the blatantly biased actions of the judge.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlasterBob
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Originally Posted by battle_sight_zero
In total agreement. it's not about guilt or innocence. it's about guns and color. 20-1 odds Biden and nthe rest of those illiterates use this as anothe rreason to limit gun ownership / access / anything.
MFKER you're from Joisey they've been pulling this shit for decades, or you forget, since your move out west? Look at the line of "family members" standing 4-5 across going around the patterson jail on visiting day. You'd think there was a hip-hop concert going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by cofi
Despicable of MSNBC.
Its ok to show a pic of Trayvon but we can't see a pic of DOA Osama Bin Ladin? The hypocracy stinks, OBL was either killed in Tora Bora or he is resting comfortably in Saudi Arabia on our dime.
Micheal Brown had a couple real good points today when he aired interviews of the sitting police chief when TM got capped and the current police chief.
The one that was in place when this went down followed the rule of law and as such could not charge Zimmy.
The current one said a group of 30k citizens were outraged(thanks EH for using tax dollars to stir the pot) and wanted an arrest and trial and now they have both.
So we are no longer a nation of laws, but rather mob rules.
Just great......
Good points BP . As I exercise at the gym Entertainment tonight had a teaser about an upcoming Trayvon movie. Jury is not even back yet.
I've been very surprised at the number of posts on the web that seem to think that getting your head bounced repeatedly on concrete is of little consequence, almost as if that activity alone wouldn't cause serious injury.
I think those saying that should volunteer to prove their point.Quote:
Originally Posted by hatidua
http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/07/12...wait-to-attack
Ben Shapiro at 6:40 gives a pretty good legal recap on why this is epic BS and why if he gets convicted GZ will spend a good amount of time in jail. He also talked about the opposite of jury nullification which I vaguely remember someone in this thread mentioning way back about on page three....
I still think the prosecution won this case for the defense!
Yes they did. HOWEVER the Court of Public Opinion has a noose and line of people, including our own CIC ready to put it over Z's head.Quote:
Originally Posted by muddywings
I can't help but think that Sharpton/Jackson/Etc. would actually like for Zimmerman to be acquitted so that they can get on their pulpits and rage on about "racial injustice".
If recent polls are correct and blacks are more racist than whites (the poll even indicated most blacks believed that), then we may be returning to the 1950s in Mississippi - but in reverse. Most people aren't racist, but if they are living in fear of other races this can lead to bad places. Many think the witness Rachel Jeantal was being 100% honest when she described TM describing GZ as a "Creepy ass cracker" and also didn't think that was a racist comment. If blacks in their own communities talk about whites in that way, I am concerned where this will lead. Many on the left fan the flames of racial division every chance they get and cry racism any time anyone disagrees with them or a progressive brother/sister. Then if this trial is used as the "justification" for black racial violence, this will increase fear and lead to further division. I can say that I truly do not know any racist person, no matter what race. However, good people can still fear others and be concerned for their own and their family's safety.
The sad thing is this is receiving enough attention to capture a long running thread on this forum. However; I will be glued to the TV/radio waiting for:
The white/hispanic riots that occur because Mr. Zimmerman is convicted of manslaughter.
The overwhelming support from the media and the drones regarding our criminal justice system; and how the whole indictment, trial, and prosecution was factually based, and not racially biased.
A huge outcry of support by all citizens for the ability to be able to be armed and ready to defend their life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness without the aid of law enforcement.
Yes, my eyes are brown... And pardon my french; but I'm tired of this shit already. Negroes die by the hands of negroes daily in this country; as do crackers by crackers; but it doesn't hit a media frenzy/public outcry/federal level until one race kills another. Give me a muther-flipping break! We have far bigger issues as a nation then to be worried about this trivial bullshit...
Gonna have another Woodford now!
My personal opinion is this: we are sheltered in CO. Racism is rampant on the coasts, large cities, and the south. Go to some of the "larger" news outlets covering this trial, or other racially charged ones, and look at the comments. The hate that is spewed by all sides make the "knee-breakers" and NYCO's on this forum look like saints...Quote:
Originally Posted by Singlestack
THIS!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by <MADDOG>
The worst that I've seen in Colorado was either minorities on the RTD (who like as not were told to shut the **** up by other people with the same skin color) or a mouth-breathing inbred at the first Denver Tea Party (who was told to "f*** off and don't talk to me" by at least a few of the white people there.)
Chicago, OTOH, is an all-direction race war just waiting to happen. There's no shortage of reasons why I don't live there any more, and it ain't just the weather.
Yeah, growing up in Michigan I've seen racism going in all directions, and turn violent. Even deadly a couple of times. Mostly whites vs blacks, but in the Detroit area there's a large arab population that would get caught up in it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by <MADDOG>
I agree with both of you 100%. I am a "transplant" from VA (NN/Norfolk area for any of you squids), and while it was relatively docile when I growing up in the 70's thru the 80's (there were still problems); it has hit new levels now based on my conversations with family and friends there. This just happened in my old haunting grounds, and this news clip is being conservative to say the least:
http://wtvr.com/2013/04/29/boardwalk...ting-tourists/
Again; look at the comments at the bottom of the news feeds... There is a pot brewing, and I hope it doesn't boil...
I agree, to an extent we are sheltered here in Colorado. However, don't be so naive to think the kettle can't explode here as well. The "Zimmerman/Martin" shooting has received more publicity than some of our mass shootings. You now have celebrities (Jamie Fox) promoting the idea of blacks uprising and rioting - nationwide. The day that verdict is going to be handed down, I'm still rollin' heavy...just to be safe. I don't like the idea of getting caught with my pants down. I will put money on it, that if any verdict aside from the 2nd Degree Murder charge is handed down...there will be rioting. It's a powder keg just itching to explode...I pray you are right, that we are sheltered here and the madness doesn't get too out of hand. The last thing Colorado needs is more negative media attention. Right now, all we can do is sit...and wait.
i don't think riots will be an issue if he gets a lesser charge. i am only concerned about them if he gets off free. most people that think hes guilty, that i have seen, actually admit the evidence isn't very strong for murder. they would be fine if it was manslaughter and the like. if completely innocent then yeah i think it could be a problem. but then again i don't know. the trial has gone on long enough that people might have calmed down overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Squeeze
This happens with a lot of High Profile Cases nowadays, Lifetime made the Jodi Arias movie while the trial was still ongoing and it came out weeks after the verdict came in!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by battle_sight_zero
I have waited till all the facts from the trial to comment on this case; it is of my opinion that too many people have used this as a political issue, with Liberals for Trayvon and Conservatives for Zimmerman. Both sides are making each persons involved to be above reproach, when in reality both characters seems to have a "complicated" pasts (Zimmerman and Trayvon).
No one can say with 100% certainty what happened on the night these two lives crossed paths: was Zimmerman a "wannabe cop" who tried to take justice into his own hands--OR--was Trayvon a "wannabe thug" who attacked Zimmerman for being a "creepy-ass honky"? The truth usually lies somewhere in between as they say.
It was of my opinion from the beginning that this whole affair was a "he said/she said" scenario (which it has). Only two people will know what really happened on that night are Martin and Zimmerman, with Zimmerman the last man standing to tell his tale. We will never know the truth; however, this is the reason why I believe Zimmerman should be found not-guilty--due to lack of sufficient evidence from the State proving Zimmerman maliciously attacked Martin.
I wish one day America will start thinking of issues beyond that of race but the media clearly loves to peddle these stories in the public arena for both political (media bias) and commercial reasons (this trial has been a rating coupé for the media).
The really sad thing is as a nation racism was dying a slow and quiet death until.........January 21, 2009.
BS. Did you forget Katrina/Kanye/Bush?Quote:
Originally Posted by BPTactical
Walk (run) through the shit in downtown Baltimore today and it is no different than it was 5 years ago.
We're not sheltered, just a different way of life. URBAN ( especially liberal states) areas have a entitlement mentality. CO until who knows when, was spared that due to folks actually wanting to work, provide for a family, have something to show for all of it, no matter what color they are. An example on say the east coast would be NY/ NJ even DC. Program after program, over decades of entitlements bred a circle of welfare families.Quote:
Originally Posted by <MADDOG>
We moved here 30 years ago and had no clue 25% or our neighborhood was "black" unless you looked at the color of their skin. NO obnoxious music blaring 24/7 NO homes in disrepair, NO crime in the area, NO disrespecting one another , property or way of life, NOTHING. Only wanting to provide and enjoy a color blind life style.
Urban or suburban, East or west coast, even southern areas like Houston , forget it. black on black crime, black on white etc. It's how folks are raised that relates to their perception of respect AND Race.
The media as you pointed out serves one purpose and that is to Inflame, Incite then Indite. Objective journalism has been gone for decades, replaced by Hit and puff pieces on whoever they like or dislike. The comments be it for the trial or even "common sense" gun laws are no different.
Also the populace at large elect the same bomb throwers year after year after year in urban areas.
Don't like something in a liberal area, RIOT
Don't like something in CO, RECALL.
last item is WHITE GUILT. that's self explanatory.
Same for chitown or that chocolate city, Norlins. Crime is out of contro,l black on black violence is so far gone, Nothing outside of strict enforcement of the law and prison time can help diminish it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnhack
HOWEVER for that to happen the Sharptons, jacksons, white guilt liberals would need to admit it's not race relations that have failed, it's their failure to act early, their failure to admit their own are to blame, that did. Instead "they" blame guns from out lying areas, racism and whitey's failure to provide education, that's the cause.
It AIN'T THE MAN THAT'S KEEPING YOU DOWN. IT'S YOURSELF.
State attorney's office fires information officer involved in case:
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2...y-director-who
I guess he didn't fit their agenda
That was a interesting read. It is really disappointing that not all evidence was allowed in this case. Nothing was stopped from being presented on Zimmerman, but pretty much anything on Trayvon like the things mentioned in the link were frozen. The IT director in the link is another victim of this Kangeroo trial.Quote:
Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111
On another note I agree with an earlier post a decade or three ago I never thought about race in my neighborhood. Pretty much the only thing I noticed was if a house was looking unkempt or crime was going on such as burglaries and graffiti. The balck family across the street worried about the same thing and it was not about race. Now were all divided .
Don't like something in CO, RECALL.
You dont mean that the fact we are recalling some of the clowns destroying our state is a negative do yo That is a lot different than riot and sends the message legally.
Anyone think the verdict is comin down today????
The judge was obviously biased as well, based upon her own admittance.
Absolutely not. Just showing the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by battle_sight_zero
Some folks don't get their way, riots ensue.. Others don't like something, petitions, PEACEFUL Rallys, resolving at the ballot box. Or they boycott that business , state / local municipality.
I thought the jury would be back by now with a not guilty verdict and Florida would be on fire.
6 female jury, I haven't seen them, not really a fair jury of his peers is it? Are they all 60 year old Subaru driving fur traders?
there's stats on them on Google but I'm posting on this stupid kindle and came cut and paste rightQuote:
Originally Posted by trlcavscout
Basically 30-50....3 have had firearm experience
The defense picks the jury too I'm surprised no guys are on there wonder what the initial pool looked like
Here's a good link
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/06...orge-zimmerman
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Originally Posted by jim