Mini 14 beats an AR15 any day

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Originally Posted by MOLON LABE

I encountered a guy at the rifle range one day that was shooting a Mini 14 and preaching the gospel during target changes to all that would listen that AR-15's were junk, couldn't be depended on when SHTF, and that the Mini was the way to go, when pressed for why he had chosen the Mini 14 as his "ultimate survival rifle" and after pointing out that no Military of substance has ever issued them, that few LE agencies still carried them, that mags were twice the cost of PMAGS, and that his rifle could only hope to shoot 2-3 MOA- he replied that he just didn't like the AR-15 and that his Mini 14 worked and he saw no real reason to switch.

I tend to view such folks as the Amish of the shooting community, yes a horse and buggy still works as a daily commuter, but even Ezekiel Schmidt wishes he had an F-150.

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Luddite is the word that comes to mind for me. I think we've already heard that the mini-14 would make a great hammer too.

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Originally Posted by BPTactical

Again, the ONLY reason the Mini series of Ruger rifles stayed in production was Ruger essentially gave them away to LE agencies.

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There was also the fact that for quite a few years the Mini was literally the cheapest centerfire semi-auto you could buy apart from the M1 carbine. And the fact that the Mini fired the 5.56/.223 made it, literally "the poor man's AR."

Then around 1989 or so, the Chinese started shipping SKSs and AKs to the US in bulk and undercutting the price of the Mini by quite a bit. It didn't hurt that the Chinese also sold 7.62x39 ammo at fire sale prices that undercut the price of .223 by a fair margin (this was long before you could get bulk Russian 5.56.)

Ruger tried to jump on the bandwagon with the Mini 30 after their failure with the XGI (who remembers that? I do!) But even then, shooters could buy 3 SKSs for the price of one Mini 30 (and IMO the SKS is a superior rifle anyway. I'd even go so far as to say the SKS is superior to the AK but that's a topic for another time.)

Once everybody and their brother with a CNC machine started making AR lowers the entire reason for the Mini 14 to exist disappeared. The fact that Ruger still even makes them is either a testament to their determination or their stubborn stupidity.

What if, Ruger brought back the XGI, .308, and made it to accept AR10 pmags, and priced it under 700.00, huh, then what would you guys think.
A folding stock 308 with pmags, maybe a factory quad rail, yeah................
Problem is they have to retool everything and as good as Minis continue to sell, I don't think they will do that, but since their 'management' changes, who knows.

I still think someone should set up a 120 round semi rapid fire test of the Mini vs AR at 50 yards, one second between shots, off a bench, and prove to the world if one is more accurate or more dependable than the other once and for all. I think it would be close to equal. On video of course. Anyone agree, or volunteer for the AR team?
You basic M4 configuration AR, My 581 with barrel stabilizer and iron sights only.
Remember, no offense intended, but talk is cheap.

Can we just stamp a Confederate battle flag on the Mini-14 and this thread.

It seems like the time has come for these old symbols to go. [Sarcasm2]

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Originally Posted by cstone

Can we just stamp a Confederate battle flag on the Mini-14 and this thread.

It seems like the time has come for these old symbols to go. [Sarcasm2]

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Don't insult the Stars and Bars in such a manner...

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Originally Posted by fmj50

I still think someone should set up a 120 round semi rapid fire test of the Mini vs AR at 50 yards, one second between shots, off a bench, and prove to the world if one is more accurate or more dependable than the other once and for all. I think it would be close to equal. On video of course. Anyone agree, or volunteer for the AR team?
You basic M4 configuration AR, My 581 with barrel stabilizer and iron sights only.
Remember, no offense intended, but talk is cheap.

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Just a question: Why does the mini get accurizing parts but the AR has to be standard M4? Shouldn't it be stock mini vs stock AR?

The only reason the South even lost was because the Mini-14 was never adopted by their military.

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Originally Posted by fmj50

What if, Ruger brought back the XGI, .308, and made it to accept AR10 pmags, and priced it under 700.00, huh, then what would you guys think.

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Of course we'd like it (if it worked) but the likelihood of them bringing out a .308 XGI are virtually nil to begin with and if they did it would likely be more than twice your $700 price. They would be better off building an AR10. Furthermore it wouldn't make the Mini 14 any better (its kind of like you're saying "you should LOVE the Chevrolet Spark because they also make the Corvette").

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Originally Posted by Irving

The only reason the South even lost was because the Mini-14 was never adopted by their military.

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That's some funny shit