Active shooter reported at Oregon college campus

In my view, "social stigma" is an excuse that we can no longer afford to entertain - if we ever could.

If you know of someone who is obviously off their rocker and they own guns, you are complicit in any criminal act they commit and should be held accountable.

These two "moms" who took their obviously wacked-out sons to shooting ranges, gave them access to guns - if not purchased them for them - are complicit in the murders that their sons committed and, if alive, should be tried and locked up.
Maybe that will make the next "mom" think twice before taking her defective son away from the video game and into the real world to "play" with real guns for his enjoyment.

We need wacked-out defective people control, not gun control.

Don't get me started on the culpability of the drug companies, doctors, and pharmacies with their misinformation concerning SSRIs.

One thing that annoys me about news coverage, as I'm sure it does everyone else, is that the media keeps guns as the focus by reporting what other guns the person had and saying that they've been "recovered." Those guns are irrelevant, and unless they were ditched during the crime, they were not "recovered."

Dave, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a mother who believes her child capable of murder, even in the face of overwhelming evidence. Most parents are so ecstatic to have their children's attention at all, that they likely welcome engaging them in activities that they usually wouldn't. I hear what you're saying, but people can't even raise pets without completely screwing them up. Sadly, it's a tall order to expect people to do what is right for their children. They never seem to realize their mistakes until it is way too late. As you already mentioned, the Lanza's are a perfect example.

I just want to add that just because it is unlikely that everyone will be a great parent, is no reason to not demand such. Just because standards are difficult to meet, is no reason to not have standards. I know my last post didn't come across that way.

Hero Chris Mintz shot as he faced Oregon community college shooter

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"Let me be very clear: I will not name the shooter," Douglas County Sheriff John Hanlin said at an evening press conference on Thursday. "Focus your attention on the victims and their families and helping them recover." Federal law enforcement officials nevertheless identified the shooter as C**** M*****, who lived in the area.

On social media, the hashtag #ChrisMintz is trending as people share his story and offer support for his family and the other victims.

There has been a push from authorities and many of the victims' families not to use the alleged shooter’s name. One person tweeted, "I haven't seen the shooter's name once, but I know the name Chris Mintz."

I will say this -- I haven't seen the shooter's name once, but I know the name Chris Mintz.

— Daniel Kunka (@unikunka) October 2, 2015

Others praised Mintz's service to his country and bravery in the face of death.

I'm so PROUD of my brother *ARMY* veteran, Chris Mintz! A ***BIG*** "HOOAH!" to you, brave soldier! #BeAllYouCanBepic.twitter.com/1Ul61qJdCW

— LTC Hunter (@LTC_Hunter) October 2, 2015

Thank God he survived. Thank you, Chris Mintz, for putting your life on the line to try to save others. Again.

— Vesa, of Harrogath (@VesamoraAIE) October 2, 2015

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Unfortunately, there will likely be some confusion, and many will associate Chris Mintz as the shooter, instead of the defender and hero, due to the name/initials similarity.

People don't care enough anymore to be bothered with facts.

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Originally Posted by davsel

We need wacked-out defective people control, not gun control.

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I don't disagree. However in the current climate in academia, psychology circles and politics I'm more concerned that the Statists will use greater "wacked-out defective people control" as both a bludgeon to use against their political enemies and a means of back door gun control.

Believe me there are plenty of academics and practicing psychologists/psychiatrists/psychotherapists that would swiftly label every single one of us here as "wacked-out and defective" because we have an interest in guns. And have no problem with our 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th amendment rights be eliminated "for the greater good" (hell many would have no problem rounding us up and executing us).

The better solution is to not worry about the nut-jobs ... just make sure the good people have unfettered access to the tools of self defense and the problem will become self correcting.

Maximum freedom is always the best solution.

Ya know, I don't know if the Oregon shooter was Muslim (I suspect he is not ... he's just enamored of "violent revolutionaries" and thus respects them).

I do, however, wonder if Islamic terrorism isn't still at work here.

Just a few things (that admittedly could all be coincidence):

1. The shooter was linked to Mahmoud Ali Ehsani on social media (but also to the IRA and we know he's not Irish Catholic).
2. ISIS has claimed responsibility for the attack (of course they could just be trying to cash in).
3. Alek Skarlatos (one of the heroes that stopped the terrorist attack in the train in France) was a student at this small, somewhat unknown community college.

Just makes one wonder. Is he a "sleeper" operative for some Islamofascist group? Or is this just all coincidental?

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

Ya know, I don't know if the Oregon shooter was Muslim (I suspect he is not ... he's just enamored of "violent revolutionaries" and thus respects them).

I do, however, wonder if Islamic terrorism isn't still at work here.

Just a few things (that admittedly could all be coincidence):

1. The shooter was linked to Mahmoud Ali Ehsani on social media (but also to the IRA and we know he's not Irish Catholic).
2. ISIS has claimed responsibility for the attack (of course they could just be trying to cash in).
3. Alek Skarlatos (one of the heroes that stopped the terrorist attack in the train in France) was a student at this small, somewhat unknown community college.

Just makes one wonder. Is he a "sleeper" operative for some Islamofascist group? Or is this just all coincidental?

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B. You need some sleep.
That whole string isn't tied together very well. Now there are some truthers who could run with it, for a year of so.

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

B. You need some sleep.
That whole string isn't tied together very well. Now there are some truthers who could run with it, for a year of so.

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