Polis to mandate masks across the state

Anyone who is concerned about bacterial build up in masks they wear more than once can pop it into the microwave for a minute. That will kill everything on the mask. Same concept as microwaving your smelly kitchen dish sponge. I've done it with a dish sponge. Goes from unbearably gross to no smell in one minute from the microwave. I don't know how microwaving a nice N95 mask might effect it's usefulness, but every cheap mask and bandana should be no issue.

Can we stop with the bad arguments about touching masks ruining them? If the point of the mask is to reduce the spray from ones breath or a cough or sneeze or whatever, it doesn't matter if you touch it and it gets "dirty," it's still reducing the output. You could wipe dog poop on your mask and it'd still reduce how much of your cough gets out.

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Originally Posted by StagLefty

I choose to wear one regardless of a mandate. I'm at an age and have underlying problems that I consider the inconvenience bearable if it will no matter the effectiveness gives me a little peace of mind while I'm on my "staycation" !!!!

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That sounds entirely reasonable. My folks do the same and primarily avoid contact with other people as much as possible. Stay well!

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Originally Posted by CS1983

In this situation, a mask is nothing more than a permeable propaganda pass.

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Wearable, literally in your face propaganda...

https://youtu.be/BYcgfgM33uQ

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

https://youtu.be/BYcgfgM33uQ

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Thanks for posting. Apparently YouTube pulled it down and fortunately it has been reposted.

That's exactly my point made earlier. Few have been impacted by the virus. Everyone has been impacted by the response.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Can we stop with the bad arguments about touching masks ruining them? If the point of the mask is to reduce the spray from ones breath or a cough or sneeze or whatever, it doesn't matter if you touch it and it gets "dirty," it's still reducing the output. You could wipe dog poop on your mask and it'd still reduce how much of your cough gets out.

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And the missing point there too, is this is a respiratory infection, not a digestive one. Sure, touching a "contaminated mask" could get stuff on your fingers, and then you could touch a doorknob, and then if someone licked that doorknob....

....They still probably wouldn't get a SARS-COV2 infection, because it's vector isn't surface contact to begin with, and the body of science confirms that. You could lick a doorknob with the virus on it and you're probably not going to get sick. Breath a droplet of it straight into your lungs though, and you're f%$ked as far as the virus using you for a host. (obv. a minority are asymptomatic, anyway).

If this were Norovirus, the argument that masks are irrelevant because people touch them would be quite valid, because it's vector IS primarily surface contact.

As others' have pointed out, I don't think anyone is really arguing "YAY GOVERNMENT CONTROL" on the forum at all - haven't seen that. So I think we're mostly on the same page, but there's a sizable group that is getting sick of the bad arguments though, e.g. no different than the email chains of yesteryear or the Facebook shares of whatever "proof" MS Paint photo someone made in their basement.

I assume many who did not wear mask were ones who forgot to bring one.
Others are ones who is stupidly confused with "this is America I can do whatever the F I want" idiots.

If people can do whatever the F I want at the private property without trespass charges,many will go to Karen's house and JAGGOFF there. Free country...right?

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Originally Posted by hollohas

But the numbers don't show this^.

Colorado, at least the front range, has had VERY high mask compliance for a couple months now.

REAL respirators work. They've been tested and PROVEN for a very long time.

Your old t-shirt MIGHT just help a little bit, but there is literally zero laboratory evidence to prove it reduces any sort pathogen transmission. And the real world data suggests they don't actually work because infection rates are increasing rapidly, with 80%+ mask compliance in public, during a season on which every expert said the virus transmission would slow.

Evidence very clearly shows getto t-shirt masks aren't actually doing anything to help.

But it makes people FEEL better, so it must be science.

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Absolutely wrong. The numbers from a broad spectrum of studies show that wearing masks does reduce (not eliminate but substantially reduce) the rate of transmission.

My view of the past couple of months has been far from a VERY high compliance rate for wearing masks in public. Hell, not even high without the VERY. Watching Monument last weekend, I don't think I'd even have rated it moderate.

Respirators are to protect the wearer from infection (generally in a high risk zone). The general wearing of masks is to reduce transmission from asymptomatic infected wearers. Can 100 or 500 particles sneak through that mask to the wearer? Yes but most people need a larger viral load than that to contract it. Can 1000 or more particles sneak through the mask FROM the wearer? Again, yes but the mask itself will reduce the range and field of their spread so the uninfected person 10 feet, 5 feet, even 2 feet away gets a much lower load.

Polis is an ass and his Executive Order is suspect but 1) the actual text of his EO only pertains to indoor spaces and in public, not to your backyard or hiking in the park 200 yards from anyone, 2) most of the objections I've seen including the ones posted above are bogus.

The mask MIGHT slow down (not stop) the spread just enough for our incompetent hospitals and healthcare can handle the load of patients.
Even if someone buy that 3600 dollar level3 bio suit, it will not prevent the spread. (Unless they are on it 24/7).

That being said, i sure will wear it.
I just wish government didnt order us to do so.

I blame this mask order on idiots who refuse to wear it and disregard private property policies.

When people say, "the studies don't show," what they are really saying is that, "the studies have not convinced Rush Limbaugh, and therefore me." I find it ironic that many of those same people are sitting back calling all the experts fools, while waiting for their favorite political cheerleader to tell them what to believe.

Conversely, I feel that people who tell you that you are a killer if you don't wear a mask, or that if the hospitals get full then Covid = Ebola, are under the very same selective information filtering, just on the opposite end of the political spectrum.