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Oh, and one more point. Sure you have a choice to not go through the body scanner or pat down and therefore not fly...but if you go to the airport, stand in line and then choose not to fly so you don't have to get a pat down...$11,000 dollar fine coming your way for not completing the security procedure. Let the government give you an unwarranted search or pay them $11,000...seems right to me.
Oh, for fuck's sake. Profiling extends a little further than just what someone looks like. Or their name. That's just a place to start...not the ending.
And another thing. Why the FUCK do the pilots have to go through this shit. What the hell do they need to smuggle a box cutter onto a plane for when they have the controls! They don't need any weapons on board, they can just fly the plane into the ground if they wanted to commit a terrorist act.
I propose a change to the old cliche, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
From now on it should be something along the lines of, "I'm from the government and I'm here to sexually assault you, take more than what I should from your pay to give to others who may or may not deserve it, subject you to continual constitutional rights violations and generally fuck things up for you and yours for generations to come...all in the name of safety and equality, of course."
you forgot that we GIVE THEM A GUN ON THE PLANE!Quote:
Originally Posted by hollohas
so yeah, all about the wtf...
As far as groping pilots goes...
EgyptAir Flight 990 Air "Accident" Brief
He didn't need a boxcutter.
You said give them special screening if their name sounds Muslim, or they "look" Muslim. My point was Richard Reid didn't have a Muslim name. Looks really are not going to help you either, unless you have a keen eye for discerning who's a Muslim Pakistani and who's a Hindi Indian, for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
We've already hashed this detail to death in the "Profiling is a good idea" thread. They should have stopped Reid or given him special inspections not because he was Muslim or because he looked funny, but because they had intelligence that this guy was a threat. The failure to connect those dots is just another example of failures in security where it's important, and an abundance of "security" where it looks important.
I did think of a good use for all these backscatter x-ray machines, they could be used to scan 100% of what's going into the hold on a plane. A lot of what's down there isn't related to any passengers on board.
How many of you would fly an airline that had zero security? Or even better, spent that money on making sure their aircraft had absolutely perfect maintenance records? And what if you could fly armed? Sign me up.
H.
And making them go through the Xray Dick Measuring Device™ would have affected the outcome exactly how?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anton
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by TFOGGER