Obama says same-sex couples should be able to marry

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Originally Posted by tmleadr03

The relative morality in this thread is based on Judeo-Christian theology. I find it fascinating that people who are so strongly for personal liberties when it comes to firearms are do opposed to it when it comes to sexuality.

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I have a crisp $1 bill that says at some point after this someone will make reference to the costitution and the second amendment...

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Originally Posted by hghclsswhitetrsh

I say let's allow gay marriage but bring back the death penalty when it used to be a quick process. A little give and take...

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How quick are we talking... "Guilty! Death Penalty!" *bang* Or are we talking something a bit slower?

Depends how conclusive the evidence is...

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Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

I have a crisp $1 bill that says at some point after this someone will make reference to the costitution and the second amendment...




How quick are we talking... "Guilty! Death Penalty!" *bang* Or are we talking something a bit slower?

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yes, you should start looking for a new job....that quick.

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Originally Posted by tmleadr03

I find it fascinating that people who are so strongly for personal liberties when it comes to firearms are do opposed to it when it comes to sexuality.

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Agreed, and always wondered that myself...

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Originally Posted by hghclsswhitetrsh

Depends how conclusive the evidence is...

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There's a guy in my jail... The cop saw him do it, about 20 other people saw him do it, and he admitted to doing it...

He shot a guy in the face with a shotgun...

Do you think he should be in the express lane?

I do.

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Originally Posted by tmleadr03

The relative morality in this thread is based on Judeo-Christian theology. I find it fascinating that people who are so strongly for personal liberties when it comes to firearms are do opposed to it when it comes to sexuality.

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So every other culture in human history EXCEPT Judaism and Christianity allowed gay marriage? Really?

I would submit that this is the first time in human history that gay marriage was even CONSIDERED, let alone allowing gays to be openly gay.

The idea that marriage is only between only a man and a woman (or a man and several women, but otherwise a heterosexual convention) has been the defacto standard since LONG before Abraham was born (the first Jew) and even longer before Christ.

Furthermore, virtually every major world religion condemns homosexuality as some sort of aberration, sin or otherwise "bad juju". So it's not just Christian Republicans.


One can make the case that it's "fair" to allow gay marriage, even that it's appropriate for a free society like America. But the idea that opposition to gay marriage is some sort of theocratic Judeo-Christian bigotry is just asinine and shows a total lack of awareness of human history.

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

So every other culture in human history EXCEPT Judaism and Christianity allowed gay marriage? Really?

I would submit that this is the first time in human history that gay marriage was even CONSIDERED, let alone allowing gays to be openly gay.

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I seem to remember a few stories in the Bible involving gays who weren't immediately turned to salt...

I think that no one of the same sex should be allowed to engage in ANY type of legally binding contract. Sorry business partners, co-signers, property owners, employees and employers, loan seekers, lenders, and anyone interested in any type of commerce. That would be immoral.

We go to the Marriage License office. We affirm that we are at least one cousin removed from each other. We pay the marriage license tax. We get a marriage license. We are now married in the eyes of the state of Colorado.

What does that mean?

• We can get auto/health insurance together an a married couple.
• We can make decisions in emergency situations for each other.
• We can have powers of attorney, will and other legal documents.
• We can file taxes jointly.
• We get full rights and benefits for being a married couple in the eyes of the state.

Not sure why this right/privilege is limited to a man and woman relationship. I don't care what adult people do with their lives. If a couple (gay or straight) wants to make a commitment to each other, more power to them.

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

So every other culture in human history EXCEPT Judaism and Christianity allowed gay marriage? Really?

I would submit that this is the first time in human history that gay marriage was even CONSIDERED, let alone allowing gays to be openly gay.

The idea that marriage is only between only a man and a woman (or a man and several women, but otherwise a heterosexual convention) has been the defacto standard since LONG before Abraham was born (the first Jew) and even longer before Christ.

Furthermore, virtually every major world religion condemns homosexuality as some sort of aberration, sin or otherwise "bad juju". So it's not just Christian Republicans.


One can make the case that it's "fair" to allow gay marriage, even that it's appropriate for a free society like America. But the idea that opposition to gay marriage is some sort of theocratic Judeo-Christian bigotry is just asinine and shows a total lack of awareness of human history.

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You should read up a bit more on the subject.

But just to take your logic, while ignoring facts, and run with it. Would you be happy if we stuck to the marriage practices that have been in place for most of human history?