List of places no one should be allowed to possess a firearm:

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Originally Posted by SA Friday

Seriously? Your fucked if anyone does catastrophic shit on an aircraft, period. You can carry a belt fed machine gun on the bitch if you want, but that doesn't change the fact that the acceleration of gravity is 9.81 meters per second squared.

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Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: Just get us on the ground!
Hoban 'Wash' Washburn: That part'll happen pretty definitely.

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Originally Posted by cstone

If I had a dollar for every gun carried by judges into courtrooms around the country and carried by the special people onto commercial aircraft, I would retire a wealthy man.

Despite my title at work, I do not believe I am any more special than any other law abiding citizen. IMO, if I get to have a gun, then they should get to have a gun too. If the SHTF, I like my odds knowing that there are a whole lot more good guys with guns than bad guys with guns. Besides, the Giffords shooting in AZ is a great study in how few people will actually pull the trigger even when they have the opportunity.

I don't believe the average citizen is as stupid as the media would have you believe.

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I'll give you judges for sure. I would have no problem with them packing. Actually I think it's a great idea.

I'm well aware of who and how many people carry guns on planes. It ain't that many.

I completely disagree with your comment on the average citizen. Especially at the airport. Go stand by a gate for half an hour and listen to the stupid shit people ask the gate agents. I can assure you that you will have less faith in humanity. Perhaps even feel a little dumber for having done it. It really is that bad.

I know common sense is a dirty word these days, being usurped by the liberals, but I do think it applies to guns on airplanes. Meaning that all ammo should be frangible, glaser-type stuff while on the plane. They could hand it out with the fucking peanuts. Can you imagine? Stewardess comes up and offers you a hot towel, whiskey soda, and some glasers. People all over the plane calmly changing out their mags, racking the slides. I doubt Ahab would have much success with a plane like that.

I'll weigh in... I think the only places where common folks like you and me should not be allowed to carry (I'm excepting OneGuy, Kev, and JM) are detention facilities (to include county jail, state prison, federal prison, etc), courts (same rules as current, metal detectors and deputies/cops), mental/drug treatment facilities, and commercial aircraft. On the airplane thing- this is not for "safety" in terms of stray rounds causing depressurization, as has been said, that's not really a catastrophic/crash incident, I'm more worried about: small space + lots of innocents + armed citizen who is potentially not even remotely trained in CQB = BAD! I'm cool with being on a plane with an armed person, I'm not cool with the fact that one miss is probably going to end the life of an innocent.

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

I'll weigh in... I think the only places where common folks like you and me should not be allowed to carry (I'm excepting OneGuy, Kev, and JM) are detention facilities (to include county jail, state prison, federal prison, etc), courts (same rules as current, metal detectors and deputies/cops), mental/drug treatment facilities, and commercial aircraft. On the airplane thing- this is not for "safety" in terms of stray rounds causing depressurization, as has been said, that's not really a catastrophic/crash incident, I'm more worried about: small space + lots of innocents + armed citizen who is potentially not even remotely trained in CQB = BAD! I'm cool with being on a plane with an armed person, I'm not cool with the fact that one miss is probably going to end the life of an innocent.

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I not so worried about the LEO on my plane than the idiot who gets drunk and fights with the guy next to him. It happens a hell of a lot more often than people think. I'd rather not enter a firearm into that equation....and it would happen. People seem to loose their g-damn minds on airplanes.

Anyone genuinely afraid of people packing guns on airplanes need to stop learning physics from Hollywood movies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi1_1l7M8FA



The only downside to law abiding citizens CCWing on airplanes is that Jihidists will die without getting their 72 virgins and TSA will be virtually unnecessary (they can go back to being "Skycaps" and fetch our luggage like the good ole days).

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

Anyone genuinely afraid of people packing guns on airplanes need to stop learning physics from Hollywood movies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi1_1l7M8FA



The only downside to law abiding citizens CCWing on airplanes is that Jihidists will die without getting their 72 virgins and TSA will be virtually unnecessary (they can go back to being "Skycaps" and fetch our luggage like the good ole days).

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That was an awesome episode... Hence another reason (despite being good friends with an aeronautical engineer who explained the decompression myth years before the Mythbusters episode) I don't fear a stray round bringing the plane down. I just thought of another place no one should ever carry a firearm- The Internet! That place is full of wild emotions and some pretty loony assholes (mostly in and around that scary part of YouTube and all over Infowars.com)... [Coffee]

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Originally Posted by mtnhack

My bad. Should read "blows a hole in a fuel tank located in the fuselage." Or a window which would cause the whole cabin to depressurize and possibly cause severe problems. I guess catastrophy may not be gauranteed , but I still am ok with airplane prohibitions.

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I am seeing that someone didn't do really well in 8th grade physics.

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

Anyone genuinely afraid of people packing guns on airplanes need to stop learning physics from Hollywood movies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi1_1l7M8FA



The only downside to law abiding citizens CCWing on airplanes is that Jihidists will die without getting their 72 virgins and TSA will be virtually unnecessary (they can go back to being "Skycaps" and fetch our luggage like the good ole days).

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I can pretty much guarantee that I didn't learn physics from Hollywood movies. Nor am I afraid of an airplane blowing up if a shot is fired. I am however afraid of someone who is not trained in the retention of a weapon bringing one aboard my jet. And again....your average Joe carrying a firearm onto an airplane is beyond stupid.

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Originally Posted by RMAC757

I not so worried about the LEO on my plane than the idiot who gets drunk and fights with the guy next to him. It happens a hell of a lot more often than people think. I'd rather not enter a firearm into that equation....and it would happen. People seem to loose their g-damn minds on airplanes.

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unfortunatley the liberals use the same logic. "im not so worried about the LEO (who may have no clue and are still human) who comes to my restaurant, ball game, theater, etc, its the idiot who gets drunk and then kills everyone with his deranged mind and killer gun. and the blood has run in the streets just like the liberals said it would, if concealed carry got approved in more places.