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Originally Posted by Superorb
He was probably working, like I was.Quote:
Originally Posted by centrarchidae
Congrats, it's people like you that are the reason Lickenpooper is still governor.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalmeow
Hempy was green party- I think more ganja smoking hippies vote that direction than conservatives. More appropriate is Hess and Dunafon that garnered a healthy 54,000+ votes that could have easily swayed in Beauprez's favor.Quote:
Originally Posted by speedysst
I get it, I'm in no way a fan of the current 2 party system, especially when we have republicans running around acting like righteous d-bags and harping on extreme-right issues like gay marriage and abortion that do nothing but alienate any potential independents. However, as has been said before, the object here was to get rid of Hick and try to change the state away from being a blue, anti-freedom, tough to own a gun CA, jr. That failed, at least on the lawn of the Governor's Mansion. If yesterday was the day to stand and fight, then tomorrow might be the day to seek our more friendly pastures. I have my doubts about Colorado ever going red again, at least not like it was before CODA and the Gang of Four came along. It's a shame I just accepted a job and will be stuck here for at least 3 years. I have a feeling Hick will continue to ruin this state and be a flip flopping spineless coward. Dunlap will live. Justice will falter. And we'll continue to live under UBCs and used magazines.
Again, someone explain why voting for a candidate that garners 1.1-1.8% of the vote is doing anything but tossing your ballet in the garbage? Yeah, that's really fucking changing things there. Brace yourselves, here come the "We heard this same song and dance with Romney/Obama in '12, anything to get rid of Obama." Yeah, and you 3rd party folks didn't listen that time either. I won't be the one to harp and whine on the 3rd party people without a viable solution- so here it is: if your 3rd party cannot amount to more than 3% of the vote (that's giving them a lot more than what we've seen, Gary Johnson got .9%) then what about trying to change one of the parties... enough voices will eventually become a catalyst for change, it happened with the progressive movement within the Democrat party, and it looked like it was going somewhere with the Tea Party movement within the Republican party (see the 2010 shakeup). Why not instead of protest and huff and go "I'm never voting for those meanie face republicans again!" rise up and say "Let's change this party. It looks too much like the Democrat party, we need to make it better!" So many are willing to jump ship and try out a different boat, but that different boat is way too small and too leaky to make the voyage. Why not fix the ship you were on instead? I would apply this same logic to Colorado, but I repeat my previous fear that I think this is going to be a fairly blue state for quite some time... Considering Boulder and Denver are doing nothing but expanding.
I am absolutely shocked at the amount of bitching I am reading on here. The national races literally couldn't have went any better for the Republicans. Obama is about ready to ruin any chance the Democrats have in 2016 by waving his pen around and executive action-ing himself and democrats into oblivion. Hickenlooper won by the smallest of margins against a candidate that has already ran and lost the governors race to arguably a worse democrat than Hick is (Ritter). The State Senate went your way, the state House looks like it's going to swing your way too (possibly). Hick isn't going to be able to do anything for the next four years if that's the case. All of the propositions everybody wanted voted down were defeated...
Seriously, what the fuck are all of you bitching about? You should be running through the streets naked and drunk with happiness. Jesus H Christ...
Yep. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by thvigil11
And you are very angry as usual. Hope you have a nice day.[Flower]Quote:
Originally Posted by PugnacAutMortem
I'm ecstatic over the victories, but arguably one of the worst governor's in my lifetime won a second term. So I can't bitch about it?Quote:
Originally Posted by PugnacAutMortem
Like all vermin; prolific breeders.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
If the State House flops to the "R"s, we just may see the Magazine Limit and UBC repeal bills hit the Governors desk. Could still be interesting...
Bitching is totally justified IMHO. Hickenlooper is an absolute abomination and complete fuckwitt.
He admitted to signing bills that he did not read. He admitted to not listening to the sheriffs he let Dunlap slide.
We have to deal with his retardedness again. He will continue to make decisions that are idiotic and effect our daily lives.
It's insane that republicans had great success in the state and nationally, yet the worst democrat governor on the planet retained his reign.
Doing such a thing does not conform to my conservative nature. A bit too self indulgent, free-spirited and, well, liberal. Bitching about small things... well that fits squarely with my normal habits.Quote:
Originally Posted by PugnacAutMortem
You think Hickenlooper would sign if it even made it to his desk?Quote:
Originally Posted by .455_Hunter
This points more to the GOP as a whole and it's shortcomings then Hickenlooper IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by colorider
I'll ignore and avoid the ad hominems, but honestly, what do you think Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are doing? They are invoking change from within the party.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin13
Hick will not sign them and lie about wanting to sign them and then blame his staffer for not signing them because he promised his third cousin that he would not sign them.Quote:
Originally Posted by .455_Hunter
Yay for the Senate flip, yay for House plus up but in the end all politics are local. I wanted Hickenlooper crushed. I wanted his political career to end so he can go back to bar-tending. I wanted him humiliated for his lack of moral spine and his lack of professional responsibility. I'm happy Maryland picked an R Gov, I'm happy NC kicked out Hagen. It's good to see nation wide but I live in Colorado and for me personally, all the other national races amount only so much interest to me. I wanted CO to become red and it's not. It doesn't matter about Sec State, Treasurer, Attorney General. It was Hickenlooper that mattered and we came up short. The Ds will see this is a win even with Gardner winning and they are right.Quote:
Originally Posted by PugnacAutMortem
Next time around we will have to knuckle down and try even harder but it will be harder and harder and harder if we can't turn the governor mansion.
Hick may have his hands tied IF the general assembly goes R. However, they'll be very hard pressed to pass much onto his desk as well. We've seen how he works and it'll be damn near a deadlock for anything that doesn't align with Hick's agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by PugnacAutMortem
And yes, I'm happy as hell that everywhere else is looking good...
Exactly my point. I love what Paul and Cruz are doing. I also love that they're giving the RINOs a run for their money and making them all uncomfortable... Shake in those boots McCain, Graham and McConnell!Quote:
Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
Secretary of State matters a hell of a lot. He and the county clerks run elections.Quote:
Originally Posted by muddywings
To steal an election, you don't need to control the ballots, just who counts them.
How do you think yesterday would have gone with a Dem SoS?
Not really. But it still keeps the issue in forefront, plus they could pass other pro-gun bills to package with it, like CCW rights expansion, which may force compromise on the worst parts of the exisiting bills.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jer
Who knows- All for nothing if the "D's" still keep the house.
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Originally Posted by PugnacAutMortem
While i am not one to agree with you. In this case, while the .guv is still Hick. The wins overcome the loss. To take the offices you mentioned is Very Big. IMO it's the equivalent of Congress & senate being in R control with a Lamer duck president.
I'll say it again. The numbers for Beauprex were way beyond what i thought they would have been. I thought / felt Hick would run away this election cycle. Not only didn't he. BUT this does send a message to him and other's
Consider yourself / us lucky we don't have a Cuomo mentality for guv.Quote:
Originally Posted by hurley842002
Isn't a Bloomberg whipping boy just as bad?Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
I can't disagree with you there, but I was only speaking of Colorado Guvs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
In "important" elections, I believe you can subtract 2% of any D's votes due to voter fraud.
Where do I go to sign the recall petition on Hickinlooper? Worked before.
Besides manually totaling-up the votes on the S of S website, is there any place that is tracking the "balance of power" for the state house and senate?
What does it say when you have Governor as universally reviled as Hick, but he still manages to win the election? It says that the Republicans stepped on their dicks again. Hick didn't WIN this election, Beauprez and the Colorado Republican Party LOST it. When it comes down to it,Bob's major campaign strategy boiled down to "I'm not Hick, vote for me!". Until and unless the Republicans can float a candidate that can motivate people to for FOR him, rather than against the other guy, the progressives and the FSA will continue to win.
Exactly. Last election I watched two people speak only Spanish, had no ID, and were confirmed not to be registered voters who were allowed to vote. I have no doubt that illegals have been voting in elections all over the country forever now.Quote:
Originally Posted by davsel
We just had a recall; Hick won.Quote:
Originally Posted by davsel
Buauprez wasn't the best candidate; I really wanted Brophy, but that didn't happen. Honestly, I didn't care about the candidate in the general; I just wanted Hick gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by TFOGGER
Exactly. Just like the presidential election of 2012.... the GOP fielded a turd and The People rejected it. Both were ripe for the picking and the GOP couldn't even get the job done.Quote:
Originally Posted by TFOGGER
Hick's win validated that dems can do whatever they want, be as blatant as they want and they will get re-elected. Troubling stuff, no matter how "lame" the R candidate was. Do people forget that we can vote again in 4 years? If Bob sucked, vote him out and try again. That is how we hold politicians accountable. We're punishing ourselves by waiting for the great white buffalo candidate.
I am shaking my head wondering how Massachusetts, Maryland, and Illinois all get Republican governors and Colorado retains a Democrat. [Shock]
I think the way this vote went for governor is a message to the GOP to stop putting out crappy candidates. Yes, all democrats will vote for whomever has the D after their name. It's been proven time and time again that's just how people in that camp operate. But it looks like a sector of the people in the republican camp actually care about the candidates that their party puts up for election, and if they think that it's a lame candidate then they won't vote for them (Romney, Beauprez...). This should kick the GOP in Colorado in the ass and say "We need to put the strongest candidate out there, not who the data says is the most electable". Sometimes that might be the same person, but recently that has not been the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_L
The real test to see if the GOP learns from this race is who they put up for president in 2016. I fear that last night is going to give them a ton of false confidence and they will throw out someone like Krispy Kreme Christie (vomit) or Bush Numero Tres (double vomit) and think that just because they have the R after their name, they will be a shoo-in.
Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it in the future.
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Originally Posted by .455_Hunter
I would like for him to have to face that decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jer
It will make for an uncomfortable situation for Hick either way. We are all under the assumption that he has further political aspirations, and it will be a no-win situation. Sign, and risk losing support from (D) side (and the money/power machine), jeopardizing his future aspirations; or don't sign, and risk the ongoing fallout/turmoil from his lies, pandering and waffling, which will most assuredly be used against him in any future political endeavors. I can see the attack ads in my mind already.
But rest assured, if he does have to face that decision, and he does sign off on any of it, that decision will have not have been made by him but by his handlers (Bloomie, et al)
The point you may have overlooked is that the people saying Bob sucked aren't the ones who DIDN'T vote for him. Those that voted for him likely did so holding their nose in protest against Hickenlooper. It wasn't enough. The GOP needs to figure out a way to garner votes other than just hoping the Democratic party screws the pooch because, as we've already proven numerous times, that's not enough these days. The GOP has alienated SO many voters that something like what Hickenlooper has done isn't even bad enough to get him voted out. Now, Hickenlooper won by a slim margin and some will call this a moral victory but the fact is that he's still in office another 4 years which the Democrats will see as a win and rightly so. They pulled some pretty shady shit and got rewarded for it. I know a few pawns bit it but the King remains on the board and they did some pretty big damage to our freedoms in the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_L
Will it matter if Hillary decides to run?Quote:
Originally Posted by PugnacAutMortem
lol @ thinking that Hickenlooper is worried about being revealed as a shyster after what he did openly the last term.Quote:
Originally Posted by crays
The people put Beauprez on the ballot, not the GOP.
Been to Boulder or Denver lately? Densely packed liberals will do that to elections. So will voting illegals.Quote:
Originally Posted by cstone
This is no new trend. McCain was just as bad if not worse than Romney. Time and time again, we see true Conservatives, Libertarians, and Constitutionalists get left behind for RINOs and establishment candidates who either don't have the backbone or the dedication to serve our cause. Imagine what we could be accomplishing with a Gary Johnson or Rand Paul in office with control of the House and Senate. Just two good years to dismantle alphabet gang snooping, slash the budget, and bulletproof the 2nd amendment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jer
A boy can dream.
A Republican Governor in ILLINOIS? Wow, maybe this Governor won't wind up in prison like his predecessors did. Even the Democrat "machine" in Chicago will hopefully now be walking around with their tails between their legs. Now if they can just toss their Mayor out to the dogs but the "Billionaire Playboy" won't let that happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by cstone
Exactly. Hick doesn't give a crap what we think, or an entire state of Sheriffs for that matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jer
Maybe Chicago residents will finally be able to defend themselves instead of all turning into victims, the way the Dems like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlasterBob
I didn't forget McSame I just listed those two as the most recent well-known examples to save on keystrokes. This has been going on for some time now and every election I hope to see something different and it never comes.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZERO THEORY