You know....I've always liked Irving.
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You know....I've always liked Irving.
This was very professionally handled -none of you get an opinion on it. You weren't there. The body cam footage is inconclusive. It was a good shoot.
This officer was trained in de-escalation techniques to include the use of assault rifles, rocket launchers, and fragmentation grenades. Just because his pre-cursor to using a de-escalation technique on this dangerous animal of a subject was insulting, sprinkled with gleeful promises of a pending de-escalation, and had to be the most confusing series of commands ever uttered by anyone, just means you folks are all ignorant. You can't understand what its like to confront a compliant drunk in a hallway when your assault rifle hasn't ever killed anyone...how lonely your rifle must be and how much it needs to be used in it's de-escalation role.
Think about the officer safety - if officers didn't lethally de-escalate the situations they escalated to begin with, the deaths of innocent people could possibly in some small percentage of cases become the death of officers!
Who falls forward when on all fours, and reaches a dominant hand back to his waist, even if intoxicated?
We were doing well in this thread with exchanging ideas and information on both sides without getting personal. Now things have gotten personal and it's time for this discourse to conclude.
THREAD CLOSED
Watch 4:12 to 4:30 repeatedly. At 4:25/6 subject deliberately reaches right hand back, (out of shooting officers view) and brings right hand back forward again.
I don't give two shits if my opinion is worthless in everyone elses eyes or not, I know the asshole yelling is an idiot.....and I sincerely believe that the officer that fired was operating on his training.
My first lock attempt failed (too button pushing happy). It's locked now.
As we move forward from this thread remember what we have in common and try to value that others may have differing opinions on some things but it doesn't deserve a personal attack.