And this is how it ends...

For everyone?s peace of mind I?m going to bow out of this conversation. If that makes anyone feel that they won something than congratulations.

It?s 2019, and newsflash! Unpopular opinions remain unpopular. Have a good one gents.




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It?s 2019, and newsflash! Unpopular opinions remain unpopular. Have a good one gents.




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No Unpopular opinions like you suggest sound more left of center, we're smarter than everyone else, crap

Joe_K. Holding oneself to a high standard is admirable. I see it.

Neo reactionaries by nature are not transient & I think that is the root of the point, yes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwK_WOXjfc0

I think it's okay to try and change Joe's mind, but not okay to try and chase him off the board by bringing up everything he's ever said that you don't like and adding it to every future discussion. That's what wives and girlfriends are for.

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Some of the Voting minimum standards I could support:
High School diploma or better
Ability to read/write
Be a citizen
Valid I.D.
Be 21 or older
Pass a Citizenship test
Tax payer
Gainfully employed
No convictions
Never committed to a mental institution
Pass a drug test
If a parent, be married to the mother/father and have a stable home life.

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Sweet. Lots of the mouth-breathers shopping at walmart meet this criteria. You ever pass a "Citizenship Test" or were you just born here? You would still bitch that "these people" that passed your little test didn't vote the way you wanted them to vote.

I don't think voting in the US works anymore. 2 party system is BS. Too many fringe fanatics on both sides. All our politicians represent is their own ego and wealth. French Revolution anyone?

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I think it's okay to try and change Joe's mind, but not okay to try and chase him off the board by bringing up everything he's ever said that you don't like and adding it to every future discussion. That's what wives and girlfriends are for.

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I didn't want him to go. I didn't even want to change his mind. I wanted to call him on his bullshit as I would expect others to do to me. If he or I or you were to changed their mind at the end on their own accord then that's good. I like difference of opinion, except when it's not mine. Hahahaha. But really this is the root of the problem no one wants to have these hard discussions or accept that they could be wrong. Then it turns into a sort of Out-group homogeneity effect shouting match.

Also voting is dumb and "if it made a difference they wouldn't let us do it..."

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I think it's okay to try and change Joe's mind, but not okay to try and chase him off the board by bringing up everything he's ever said that you don't like and adding it to every future discussion. That's what wives and girlfriends are for.

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No one's chasing him off the board. or said GTF OUT! Some of us are vehemently disagreeing with the overall position he's taken . If this seems too harsh, perhaps those offended need to rethink what they post before doing so.

He's a nice guy, unfortunately the last 2-3 post have shown him to be (IMO) out of touch, with what i and others believe.

I was talking about throwing in the Tier 1 stuff from the other thread. His stance is indefensible as it is, no need to pile on from other topics.

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I was talking about throwing in the Tier 1 stuff from the other thread. His stance is indefensible as it is, no need to pile on from other topics.

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Irv, you've never said anything so dumb that your friends reminded you of it relentlessly? I sure have. It's not piling on. It good natured harassment.