Amendment 64...

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Originally Posted by Rust_shackleford

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Originally Posted by USAFGopherMike

So you didn't go to the Academy because you couldn't be a pilot? There are lots of other jobs in the AF, even if you're colorblind. Service is not about you btw.

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Infantry is always hiring! [Beer]

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[ROFL1] I like what Mike said, and Rust- you really think someone who is dead set on being a pilot is really motivated for the riggers of the life of an infantryman? [Tooth]

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Originally Posted by USAFGopherMike

Let me be clear here.. I hate taxes. Some are necessary in order to carry out the constitution. I'd rather have drugs taxed... somewhere else. California seems a good spot. They like taxes there. I don't like my alcohol or gasoline taxed and I especially don't like my deisel taxed. I hate taxes. Let the liberals pay all the taxes since they like taxes so much. Hollywood libs can pay all the taxes. If it were up to me, there would be no paper money and everybody would pay. Period. Call it consumption tax or something. VAT. As long as everybody pays the same percentage. I don't like freeloaders.

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Sounds like reasonable plan to me.

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Originally Posted by USAFGopherMike

Let me be clear here.. I hate taxes. Some are necessary in order to carry out the constitution. I'd rather have drugs taxed... somewhere else. California seems a good spot. They like taxes there. I don't like my alcohol or gasoline taxed and I especially don't like my deisel taxed. I hate taxes. Let the liberals pay all the taxes since they like taxes so much. Hollywood libs can pay all the taxes. If it were up to me, there would be no paper money and everybody would pay. Period. Call it consumption tax or something. VAT. As long as everybody pays the same percentage. I don't like freeloaders.

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Be careful when you espouse that it is okay to tax something you don't buy, just because you don't buy it. It is a slippery slope, and there will always be someone who would love to tax what you are into.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Do you feel that this is different than the way that Montana bucked the Feds by trying to make local machine guns legal, even though they weren't Federally? Do you feel the same?

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Anyone going to address this? Question open to everyone. If Amendment 64 was for legal, locally produced NFA firearms, would you vote the same way?

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Originally Posted by Irving

Anyone going to address this? Question open to everyone. If Amendment 64 was for legal, locally produced NFA firearms, would you vote the same way?

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There's a shit load of these arguments. Most of what the Feds have taken over violate the 10th Amendment. The Constitution gives the Feds 18 responsibilities, but as with all governments the people have gotten dumb downed and complacent, which has allowed the Elitist to take over our country.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Anyone going to address this? Question open to everyone. If Amendment 64 was for legal, locally produced NFA firearms, would you vote the same way?

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In your wise words- Slippery slope- I'm not sure how this would work with the BATFE, and what not, but since it's in the CO Constitution I would be all for it. Like I said earlier, and thanks to OneGuy for giving me info on it, vices should be handled by the CRS, and rights should be handled by the Constitution (state or federal). The 2nd Amendment need not be regulated- at our state level, I would be all for A) Supporting the local gun-economy, and B) anything that would have a way around the NFA for those of us who have legitimate cause to own a firearm. I don't know how they would go about it, but I don't see MJ and guns being on the same regulatory platform. Gun ownership is a right written in both the state and national constitution. They make zero mention of drugs/alcohol (well except for that pesky prohibition bit) being a "god given right." It's been proven time and time again, the majority of gun owners do not commit crimes (those who go about the process legally). [Beer]

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Originally Posted by Irving

Be careful when you espouse that it is okay to tax something you don't buy, just because you don't buy it. It is a slippery slope, and there will always be someone who would love to tax what you are into.

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Like your guns. They come with a built in Tax already. That's one the ATF's jobs is to collect them.[PoPo]

So what would you advocate taxing? Everything and anything? Political ads should be heavily taxed. I do like the idea of a flat income tax, say 5-7%? Better than what we have now. That way everybody pays the same rate, which is fair.

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Originally Posted by USAFGopherMike

So what would you advocate taxing? Everything and anything? Political ads should be heavily taxed. I do like the idea of a flat income tax, say 5-7%? Better than what we have now. That way everybody pays the same rate, which is fair.

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Income tax violates the 4th amendment. Why must we think the FEDS have right to tax our property?

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Originally Posted by Rust_shackleford

Income tax violates the 4th amendment. Why must we think the FEDS have right to tax our property?

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Ok. I can agree with that.