hostess is closing due to strikes ?

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Originally Posted by Irving

You are all misunderstanding the way he used the word "right" and flying off the handle looking like idiots and calling him a liberal right off the bat. Take a deep breath and try reading what he said again.

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Seems to be SOP in a lot of threads lately. [Roll1]

Bad election out comes can do that! I blame my reaction on my Sociology prof in college - a self-proclaimed redistributionist. He did hate being called either a Socialist or Marxist, but did say ownership of private property was wrong and "evil". I always thought of him as a marxist anyway...

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Originally Posted by jim

Like Commune, Common area, All That We Share What i choose to share with others that deserve it i will. I do not want to be forced by law or mandate to share with those who do not deserve it.

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Well judging by your selfish me first reply, I don't want you to share my roads or my public power lines, my public sewer, my public water lines, my public parks, don't hire ANY WORKERS who use those things or went to public schools either... Since you don't think you or your business should have to pay for them or want to pay for them, please do me/the public a favor and never do anything of the sort. Which might mean you have to leave the country. You don't live in a bubble and those things are paid for by taxes. You have NO RIGHT to a profit. Without the commons you and most all other companies would not exist. So look at it as your patriotic duty to give back for all that you have taken so far.

Those would be things called "The Commons"

So businesses do not have a right to profits, then I do not see how unions should have a right to demand a bunch of ridiculous things either.

Two sides of the same coin.

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Originally Posted by jhood001

Invested in stocks? Part of a political party?

Simple minds with simple solutions. You've seen it here first, folks.

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Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey

Nope, don't believe in group bargaining. My self directed IRA is on my properties mostly ever since 1997 stock bubble. I dont belong nor have I ever donated to any parties. Parties are for sheeple like you I guess? Either way, I simply do not believe in union. Your insults are as bad as the union thuggery - and that's why the union aren't gaining sympathy imho.

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My comments towards you were unfair and mean and I apologize for them.

Have you guys seen Wonder bread? 2.50 at local grocery chain at most?
How about hostess?
The Hostess delivery guy with huge UPS/FedEx size delivery [milk] truck to small retailers to fill $100-300 orders across Denver metro area?

I am fairly sure there got to be a very thin margin of profit.


At this kinda fast pace economy, whale has to dance and nimble around to diversify in order to survive.

Here is the best explanation of what happened. Basically management cut corners and never innovated. The unions pay level is the same as it was 10 years ago meaning they were taking cuts left and right, while the CEO's who ran it into the grounded gave themselves mega raises. Management never changed the company to reflect the times. They just cut corners, cut workers and never invested in innovation (like healthy whole grain bread). Once again, some CEO jerk was more concerned with lining his pockets than he was with running the company.

http://dailynewsfinder.com/2012/11/1...-brands-story/