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Watching "Fortitude" on Amazon Prime. Pretty good series, filmed in Iceland, mix of serial killer, bio-hazard, corporate evil, corruption, small-town insanity in the land of the midnight sun....
HBO Westworld.....3 or 4 shows in...….yeah it's crap.
I can't do it. Sucks though, I loved the original movie.
Ahh, the original must be what's holding you up. I never saw the original so no preconceived notions or standards. It was written by Michael Cricheton if that helps.
Okay...this is where I fail to understand the true purpose of any "remake" in the first place. Coincidentally, I would add remaking songs to this as well. If the purpose of remaking a movie is to update the film directors options to current technology for interpreting the writers original intent of the given film, okay. Just stick to the damn writers intent and pay due homage to the original film while you decide you're going to mess with it. IMO, the list of films that have been raped and pillaged during remakes is long and disrespectful to the originals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
If you're going to make a "series" from an original film many decades later, then all bets are off and it might blow ass so hard that nobody who liked the original movie will like the series. Others however might. Good luck not messing up something that didn't suck before you raped the idea and ventured into "Classic movie that is now a bad 2018 version of Dallas" with robots.
So, it's cool to talk about shows and share ideas, and that's where I'm at on this particular series.
I'm interested in seeing the original because I heard it was bad. I think we are in agreement that you can't take a movie and turn it into several seasons without seriously fleshing out the plot.
I think Westworld is the best show HBO has ever done. It’s definitely a favorite of mine. To my knowledge, Abrams has nothing to do with the story, that’s all Jonathan Nolan (Dark Knight Trilogy) and Lisa Joy (Burn Notice) - and the late Michael Crichton, obviously.Quote:
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The Wire, is The Best Show HBO has ever done. The Sopranos is a close second, right up till the series finale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Honey Badger282.8
Neither one did much for me. That’s not a knock against them, I just like science fiction a lot more than cops and mafiosi. For crime dramas, I definitely preferred Boardwalk Empire to The Sopranos or The Wire. Big Love was more entertaining as well, in my opinion.Quote:
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I’m just glad you didn’t say Game of Thrones was the best.
Game of Thrones has been pretty dang great.
What he said
I’ve tried five or six times to get into that show and can’t. I’m waiting for the series to end so I can watch all the episodes with the dragon lady. She’s the only character I liked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
It might be bad in your view if you get around to watching it. Top of the line cinematics for 1973, and for the same reason some would suggest I give the new series a chance, I would suggest you could try and give the original screenplay a chance...considering the time it was filmed and the original story idea was a great one in my mind. Just sayin.Quote:
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I liked the Soprano's.Quote:
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I've been cool with Thrones.Quote:
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You're going to cherry pick a few dozen episodes out of a multi year series and just watch those?Quote:
Originally Posted by Honey Badger282.8
Tyrion makes that show, no question for me, and I assume anyone who has seen the whole series might sound up on that a little bit.
I've got nothing against the original, that's just what I heard. I like to see the origins of stuff. It's a lot easier to watch the new stuff first than the other way around.Quote:
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I’m still waiting to start watching season 2 of Ozark. I enjoyed the first season.
Season 2 wasn't that bad. Not as good as the first though.Quote:
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Tyrion's character is certainly a major contributor. Indeed it would be a wholly different story line without him & one less worth watching. : )Quote:
Originally Posted by Kowalski Lives
Halfway through original Westworld now.
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No spoilers, please. Hints, oui. Spoilers, nonQuote:
Originally Posted by ChickNorris
Okay here goes. Original Westworld was pretty good, probably before it's time when it came out. Michael Crichton continues to impress me. That said, if the new version tried to stick to exactly the same story, it would have been a steaming pile of shit and HBO would never have touched it. Not because the original was bad, but because it didn't have enough depth for a series (can any 1.5 hour movie?), and it needed to be updated to speak to today's audience. I think a fitting analogy would be if you tried to make a modern day horror movie where every one has land lines and the bad guy cuts the power. Great for any time before the 2000's, laughable for any time after.Quote:
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I really enjoyed seeing where the new writers pulled all the elements of the new show from. The feel of the updated basement and work area is right on, as is the guest's first introduction to the park, from the hover craft and trams, to the Blacksmith being one of the first buildings you see in the background. OBC, you mentioned the music in the new one. The end scene music of the original seems to be the backbone of the updated music. One of my favorite elements of the new is modern music disguised as old timey piano music and the time it takes me to identify the artist/song each episode. Memorable stuff from the new version is Nine Inch Nails and RadioHead.
Conclusion: The original was great for when it was released, but the new version is leagues better, and it has to be or else it'd be a flop. Pretty much all of the main story elements of the original are worked into the new version, but buried within an enormous level of depth. Tip of the hat to the writers for sure. Having seen both makes me appreciate both on a deeper level and I'm glad I spent the time to watch the original.
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I agree that I liked season 1 better than 2, even though 2 was good; but it took me a while to figure out why. Referring back to Justin's comment about Whats-his-directors-face strict adherence to whatever his formula is, I feel like season 2 of Ozark falls too neatly into the classic formula. Season 1 was more enjoyable because everything was new and there was a lot of character development, but also it felt like the characters made progress with respect to their challenges. Season 2 everything is established, there is a bit more character development, but for the most part it is just a parade of seeming insurmountable problems. After a while that gets old and it's nice to see the protagonists succeed every once in a while. If Marty is being cunning and figuring out brilliant plans to overcome challenges, the show feels refreshing and engaging. If Marty is constantly confronted with elements that he can't really control and he feels like he has little control, the show feels like another rehash of classic drama. Season 1 had a better balance than season 2.
Unrelated, but I heard that Aaron Paul is going to be in season 3 of something, but I can't remember if it is Ozark or Westworld.
Ha. Like you’re going to tell me that and not pique my curiosity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Of course I had to read what you wrote.
I’m still looking forward to watching it for myself but I kind of understood what you were saying.
Thanks.
Not sure how I missed this thread, but it's interesting to see what many of you thought about Altered Carbon. Took me a couple of episodes to get on board with, but I really ended up enjoying it.
Glad to hear there's a Season 2 in the works.
...but this is one series, if you're an actor playing a role and are angling for more money, they'll just 're-sleeve' your character. ;-)
From what I understand of the books that the series concept comes from, the story takes place over hundreds of years.
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Extinction - a 1.5 hr movie
Can't say anything other than WOW.. But we're sci-fi (or is it sysy) fans, so factor that in.
Saw the preview for it, glad to hear it was good.
Yep. After watching the show a few times I realized that I was never really into it unless the episode was about her character. Her story was interesting enough that I kept watching, thinking that she would enter the main plot. It never happened so the show feels like a chore to sit through. If the author had kept Ned Stark as the main character, I’d probably still watch. With GoT, all of the characters are nothing more than fodder for the real lead of the show: the throne. Each story is arc is about what the characters will do to sit there.Quote:
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SyFy is the only channel I miss by not having satellite tv.
I found you can download an app from amazon or someplace else to access syfy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Honey Badger282.8
When I had cable, I stopped watching SyFy before they even changed their call letters because it seemed like everything was B movie quality garbage.
What app?Quote:
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Battlestar Galactica changes that.Quote:
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It took me a few episodes to get into it...but when I did, I thought it was amazing!Quote:
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If you have amazon prime log in, go to the apps section then download.Quote:
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This is not a SPOILER ALERT
The scene with .......... is great.
Ive watched it. Ive finished watching. It was fine but I won't miss it.Quote:
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I'll miss ColleenQuote:
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The good news is
The first Marvel series to appear on the streamer back in 2015, Daredevil‘s third season is about to launch on Netflix on October 19.
Wonder how they'll spin Electra :) in to it.
The new Netflix series 'The Haunting of Hill House' has been really good thus far. The acting is actually very well done, the story has been very enjoyable, the makeup, costuming has been stellar. If you enjoy horror movies and the like, would probably really like this one.
I had zero interest, but will probably check it out after your review. That is a heck of a trailer, and I'm sick of American Horror Story.Quote:
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