Caliber debates about pistols are worthless

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Originally Posted by MrPrena

To illustrate the situation, I am going to have my entire family members to throw water balloons while I try to hit a 12" size 100yd target within 5 second. I will be using a pistol. [LOL]
(btw, I can't even pull a trigger of a firearm over 7lbs weight due to ra on my index finger from 2mo ago).

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You know they will be incoming. Not knowing what the distraction will be is better.

This may be a silly question: but was the perp under the influence of any drugs?

I'm lazy and haven't researched the background of the event...

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Originally Posted by <MADDOG>

This may be a silly question: but was the perp under the influence of any drugs?

I'm lazy and haven't researched the background of the event...

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I was surprised at it myself

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Remarkably, the gunman was still showing vital signs when EMS arrived. Sheer determination, it seemed, kept him going, for no evidence of drugs or alcohol was found in his system.

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Thanks osok, I didn't see that.

Skinnys under kat hit with 5.56 did the same thing, but they were doped out.

I ran across this many months ago, but you guys/gals may be interested in watching (skip to about 40 secs)...It's long, but interesting (if you are an a EMT, I'm guessing you might like the ending).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= tku8YI68-JA

My personal opinion: the cop did a fine job with the training he's had (and he's probably had more than 95% of the members of this board, myself included) and under the conditions he was dealt. He acknowledges the need for training and shot placement under a shooter scenario. Very few aside from the elite who do enough training under real conditions, or those with experience of actually engaging bad guys, can critique this instance. Enough said.

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

So where's the head shot champ and this Put up Shut up gig?

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We need a place to host such a thing.

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Originally Posted by Irving

We need a place to host such a thing.

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Any public parking lot. I am unable to participate, but more than happy to assist as possible.

Close to 24 hrs w/out Cha-Lee rising to the occasion. Like to see him step up to the plate. The Put up shoot had all the ACQB's as no shows, so there be no surprises here..

The question that pops in my mind: who wants to stand against a Cha-Lee in a fire fight?

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Originally Posted by ;1617567

The question that pops in my mind: who wants to stand against a Cha-Lee in a fire fight?

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I don't think anyone wants to stand against anyone in a fire fight.

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Originally Posted by <MADDOG>

The question that pops in my mind: who wants to stand against a Cha-Lee in a fire fight?

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This isn't about standing against anyone. It's about someone making a statement. Hence Put up or Shut up.
I'm not questioning his pedigree. Having a structured shooting comp is way different than fighting for your life.

So.... as i was saying.... 5.7x28mm round ........