Martial Law

I think history tells us how change happens.


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I have been enjoying the argument back and forth til the newb showed up. It's going downhill from here on I suspect.

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Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey

I have been enjoying the argument back and forth til the newb showed up. It's going downhill from here on I suspect.

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Possibly. Hope not...

It's interesting to look at the historical 'cycle of change' in civilizations and cultures. At some point, there's some form of 'revolution' (not always in the strictest sense of the word): a clear and distinct change in leadership or something, which turns the direction and then, after some period of time, it happens again...and again...

So, if we look at history, what was the critical, participating event that caused folks to see that their current system was no longer 'working'?

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

Wow. A lot of deep, intellectual contemplation went into that post. 7 pages of useful discussion and in one post you tard the whole thing up. Congratulations.

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[Beer] I like the way you worded that!

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Originally Posted by Dingo

No shit. I love the "I'm right, cuz yer an idiot..." rebuttal. Erudite, witty, scathing, and refreshingly new!

Also a nice little variation on Godwin's law there, trotting in the Nazi references as the final showstopper.

Amazing.

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My thoughts exactly. Where is that "Liberal Infiltrators" thread? Do we need to add another name to the Nynco list?

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Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey

I have been enjoying the argument back and forth til the newb showed up. It's going downhill from here on I suspect.

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18 hours later, still nothing... wait for it... he'll either bite or ignore it- then we'll see what kind of person they will be (please don't be like Melvin)...

On that subject, the modern banking make sure there is a 'balance' of market inflation, deflation, recession, and rescission to make sure they stay in control. They are trying damn hard to get into china right now

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Originally Posted by sellersm

Possibly. Hope not...

It's interesting to look at the historical 'cycle of change' in civilizations and cultures. At some point, there's some form of 'revolution' (not always in the strictest sense of the word): a clear and distinct change in leadership or something, which turns the direction and then, after some period of time, it happens again...and again...

So, if we look at history, what was the critical, participating event that caused folks to see that their current system was no longer 'working'?

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Here? It was when the colonists realized they were giving and giving to a monarchy that was corrupt and non-responsive to their needs. It was when they realized that under their system they couldn't enjoy their freedoms and the fruits of their labors because they were required to give more to the king, and by doing this they would never be free.

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Originally Posted by sellersm

Possibly. Hope not...

It's interesting to look at the historical 'cycle of change' in civilizations and cultures. At some point, there's some form of 'revolution' (not always in the strictest sense of the word): a clear and distinct change in leadership or something, which turns the direction and then, after some period of time, it happens again...and again...

So, if we look at history, what was the critical, participating event that caused folks to see that their current system was no longer 'working'?

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The fall of empires is also in that historical cycle- Greece (not modern), Rome, Mongols... every empire must come to an end. I just hope our civilization (America) doesn't collapse in my lifetime, and I'll do what I can to try and help so it won't.

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

Here? It was when the colonists realized they were giving and giving to a monarchy that was corrupt and non-responsive to their needs. It was when they realized that under their system they couldn't enjoy their freedoms and the fruits of their labors because they were required to give more to the king, and by doing this they would never be free.

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THIS! Problem is, when will people wake up and realize that the takers are beginning to outnumber the givers?

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

THIS! Problem is, when will people wake up and realize that the takers are beginning to outnumber the givers?

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And after they wake up?

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Originally Posted by sellersm

And after they wake up?

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Realize that eventually the burden to the system will be too great and it will collapse. Or 1776 all over again. [Dunno]

I feel like we're already seeing divisions amongst the population. It'll just take one spark (someone to snap on someone using food stamps with their cadillac out front) and things will get very crazy in a hurry.