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05-12-2014, 07:04
TheBelly

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

How does suppression affect gassing for DI guns like ARs and what can you do about it beside an adjustable gas block? I'm assuming that a can raises the gas pressure? Would changing your buffer weight have any useful affect? Is that more of a bandaid than a solution?

The increased back pressure (caused by a can) increased bolt speed. The bolt moveg so fast that the rest of the system can't keep up. Several things indicate excessive bolt speed. In mine, the indicator was that the follow on round was double-feeding, but not in the normal sense as it wasn't caused by a magazine failure. The (just fired) brass hadn't cleared the chamber by the time the bolt slammed home with a new round.

Brass not clearing the chamber is excessive bolt speed and the bolt needs to be slowed down. I put in a heavier spring and used a carrier weight to try and slow it down. No dice.....and I put a HEAVY system in that gun. There's just too much gas going back.

The only other thing is too much gas and an adjustable gas block is the way for that.
05-12-2014, 09:17
Ridge

Today's a great day to not have to leave the house.

http://i.imgur.com/HyYgvH3h.jpg
05-12-2014, 11:47
brutal

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBelly

Turns out, the PredatAR is a little overgassed.

If I want that thing to run suppressed, I'll need to change the gas block to an adjustable.

I can't get my Sig716P to cycle suppressed on any setting with the PCI group buy .308 ammo. Runs fine with good ol PPU and my own dang low power M80 loads. I guess maybe they're just too hot. I have not put a chrono to them.

Anyone need a good deal on some nice M80 ball steel?
05-12-2014, 11:51
brutal

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

How does suppression affect gassing for DI guns like ARs and what can you do about it beside an adjustable gas block? I'm assuming that a can raises the gas pressure? Would changing your buffer weight have any useful affect? Is that more of a bandaid than a solution?

Depends on the can too.

My .30 cal can runs fine on the DI 5.56. Just a little less sound suppression, but less gas to blowback in your face or cause cycling issues. AAC claims they designed the can to create less back pressure.

Except for my Sig 716P not cycling the PCI M80 loads when suppressed, I've had zero issues cycling anything else with that AAC can. We'll see when I build a 10.5 upper how that plays out. I'm thinking I'll have to work on an adjustable system and am considering just going to an AA piston setup.
05-12-2014, 11:52
brutal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ridge

Today's a great day to not have to leave the house.

http://i.imgur.com/HyYgvH3h.jpg

Almost every day unless I'm traveling.

:-P

I suppose I do need to go out and shovel/blow snow (north facing drive.)
05-12-2014, 12:39
HoneyBadger

Thanks for the good info guys. [Beer]
05-12-2014, 12:57
TheBelly

Quote:

Originally Posted by brutal

Depends on the can too.

My .30 cal can runs fine on the DI 5.56. Just a little less sound suppression, but less gas to blowback in your face or cause cycling issues. AAC claims they designed the can to create less back pressure.

Except for my Sig 716P not cycling the PCI M80 loads when suppressed, I've had zero issues cycling anything else with that AAC can. We'll see when I build a 10.5 upper how that plays out. I'm thinking I'll have to work on an adjustable system and am considering just going to an AA piston setup.

If it has baffles inside of a tube, it creates backpressure. They try to minimize it, but there is no magic bullet, as far as baffled cans are concerned. I've only seen one can NOT create excess back pressure, but they are expensive and they don't use baffles like a suppressor that we'd think of these days.

Piston driven systems have a few problems in their execution, but that's a cost/benefit that you're going to have to make for yourself.
05-12-2014, 19:34
OtterbatHellcat

Howdy fellers...

Don't look now, but I think there was another grouping of quality posts in the post whore thread. Nice info, and thanks for that.
05-12-2014, 19:45
HoneyBadger

Yeah, every once in a while I ask a decent question and get an honest and helpful answer from these whores. :D
05-12-2014, 19:47
fly boy

[handbags]
05-12-2014, 19:49
HoneyBadger

Quote:

Originally Posted by fly boy

[handbags]

[werdo]
05-12-2014, 19:59
fly boy

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

[werdo]

that's the second time someone has called me weird in 2 weeks. I sense something is starting to go wrong.
05-12-2014, 20:20
Irving

Do cans that use baffles, but bleed out the pressure into an outer canister (like an integral can) reduce pressure better?
05-12-2014, 21:42
OtterbatHellcat

Quote:

Originally Posted by fly boy

that's the second time someone has called me weird in 2 weeks. I sense something is starting to go wrong.

No, nothings wrong............I'm weird too.

:D

G'nite fellers.
05-12-2014, 22:14
Great-Kazoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irving

Do cans that use baffles, but bleed out the pressure into an outer canister (like an integral can) reduce pressure better?

Not really, it has to go somewhere. Most if not every can is one canister, not inner / outer.
05-12-2014, 23:02
Irving

I ask because I'm under the impression that on an integral can there is enough volume for the gas to first go into the outer chamber, then more slowly exit out the muzzle at a lower, more quiet speed. Although, it wouldn't then work very well for rapid firing I suppose.
05-13-2014, 04:31
TheBelly

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irving

I ask because I'm under the impression that on an integral can there is enough volume for the gas to first go into the outer chamber, then more slowly exit out the muzzle at a lower, more quiet speed. Although, it wouldn't then work very well for rapid firing I suppose.

The slower exit speed is key. Getting the gas to go SOMEWHERE besides back into chamber is also key, if we're talking about reducing back pressure.

look at OSS suppressors.
05-13-2014, 04:41
buffalobo

Belly are you at work yet?

sent from my electronic ball and chain
05-13-2014, 04:44
buffalobo

No new videos for a while?

We need a hog hunt video.

Or maybe a suppressor discussion video.

sent from my electronic ball and chain
05-13-2014, 06:52
hghclsswhitetrsh

Hey hoes. Sleep is for the weak, and the people without child...

[zombie1][zombie1][zombie1]
05-13-2014, 07:10
HoneyBadger

Quote:

Originally Posted by hghclsswhitetrsh

Hey hoes. Sleep is for the weak, and the people without child...

[zombie1][zombie1][zombie1]

Read the book "Babywise" and you'll be sleeping through the night in a few weeks. [Beer]
05-13-2014, 07:11
BuffCyclist

Yes, I'm still alive.

Filling out tons of crap for work. Pissed off about my benefits, I can't sign my wife up on my insurance because of the Affordable Care Act. She has a job, but is quitting Aug 1st, to allow her a month to relax and stuff before the due date of 9/6, so we wanted to get her on my new insurance now so we know she's covered. But, because of the ACA I can't have her on my insurance because she has a job with benefits (even if she drops her benefits, she doesn't qualify) so she has to quit nearly 3 weeks early so we can process the paperwork in time and know for a fact that she'll be covered. And this is because th second you sign up for benefits, it goes into effect on the 1st of the next full month. So if we sign her up Aug 1st, she doesn't have insurance until 9/1, which is too freaking close. So we have to sign her up in the middle of july to ensure they have enough time to process it. I'm super pissed about it.

And then I spent nearly 5 hours yesterday attempting to figure out my 3. Yes, that's right. THREE freaking emails. My primary is @thestate.edu but that just forwards all email to @services.thestate.edu, so then if I reply to an email, it changes my email address which confuses people. I also can't send emails to all of my work mailing lists because those are setup for @thestate.edu. Finally found the spot after clicking tons and tons of links on the IT webpage where I can choose to have my outgoing as either of those two. Why the heck would anyone want to choose a more complicated email?!

(substitute "thestate" for the state name that i'm working for, just don't want it super obvious even though most of you hos know where I'm goin').
05-13-2014, 07:12
BuffCyclist

Oh yea, and morning all you frozen hos!
05-13-2014, 09:35
TheBelly

Quote:

Originally Posted by buffalobo

Belly are you at work yet?

sent from my electronic ball and chain

I've been at work since 0430 my time. early day today!
05-13-2014, 09:36
TheBelly

Quote:

Originally Posted by buffalobo

No new videos for a while?

We need a hog hunt video.

Or maybe a suppressor discussion video.

sent from my electronic ball and chain

suppressor discussion video..... LoL....
05-13-2014, 14:05
stoner01

I need someone who can sew gear. I'm giving up on my previous high speed idea and gonna go with traditional materials.
05-13-2014, 16:26
Ridge

Back in Feb I went shooting, and brought everything with. At the end of the day, I only shot half the ammo I brought along, and determined I wasn't having any fun. It was such a forgettable experience, I had even forgotten a gun there! [panic] Picked it up the next day with much shame.

My coworker (and fellow poster on here) thinks it was because I popped my full auto cherry in Dec, and semi auto wasn't fun anymore. His theory has been burning in my head since then. I finally went to the range again today, and only brought one gun. Ended up having a good time, wish I'd brought more ammo with, and even ran into yet a 3rd forum member while I was out there. Not sure what changed. I'd been feeling happier in general the past few weeks, since moving to a cheaper apartment. Also, all the green grass and sunny skies probably helped with the atmosphere. Whatever it was, I'm glad I enjoyed it. I'd been mulling over selling a gun or two lately, and today's experience is stopping me from doing that.
05-13-2014, 17:31
Great-Kazoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ridge

. Not sure what changed. I'd been feeling happier in general the past few weeks, since moving to a cheaper apartment. Also, all the green grass and sunny skies probably helped with the atmosphere. Whatever it was, I'm glad I enjoyed it. I'd been mulling over selling a gun or two lately, and today's experience is stopping me from doing that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FscIgtDJFXg
05-13-2014, 19:49
Mazin

Why do radiator hoses not like me?
05-13-2014, 19:50
Mazin

BOB DOLE
05-13-2014, 20:03
HoneyBadger

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mazin

BOB DOLE

[Wave][Wave][Wave][Wave]
05-13-2014, 20:05
buffalobo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mazin

Why do radiator hoses not like me?

On the side of the road or made it to house?
05-13-2014, 20:07
buffalobo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mazin

BOB DOLE

Hoverines [HiFive]

BOB would have been a good hoverine.
05-13-2014, 20:08
HoneyBadger

Hey lobo!
05-13-2014, 20:11
buffalobo

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

Hey lobo!

HB, how you be?

How is HB jr doing? Walking and hauling ass yet?
05-13-2014, 20:23
HoneyBadger

I really want to buy a BCM rifle (or at least an upper). Anyone have anything bad to say about them?
05-13-2014, 20:28
HoneyBadger

Quote:

Originally Posted by buffalobo

HB, how you be?

How is HB jr doing? Walking and hauling ass yet?

Life is purdy darn good!

HB Jr is running around wild and crazy!
05-13-2014, 20:42
Mazin

Yo yo yo OBC and HB!
05-13-2014, 20:43
Mazin

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

I really want to buy a BCM rifle (or at least an upper). Anyone have anything bad to say about them?

Love mine.
05-13-2014, 20:45
Mazin

Quote:

Originally Posted by buffalobo

On the side of the road or made it to house?

Got off at the highway and the flea market. Just needed a snip and clamped back up, it just cracked me up, 2 vehicles in 3 months with the same thing.