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I just want to go to the other planet.
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Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy
We could have had we not wasted 22 Trillion on "The war on poverty". We could have done so with Project Orion but we now have a massive welfare state, importing welfare cases, and sorts of failed programs. If we tried to do something like that today it would be much harder because there are too many competing groups that would probably not be thrilled to see the feds spending so much that did not come back to their community.
Well they do need to increase to stay at or slightly above replacement level, and slashing immigration will go along way for this as to reduce cost/competition for housing, schooling, etc. Western people like all animals do not breed well in captivity.Quote:
Originally Posted by GilpinGuy
Great Question.Quote:
Originally Posted by MOLON LABE
Think of America as a ship, There is a hole in the hull (mass immigration) and water (marxist, leftist voters, supporters, useful idiots) is pouring in, isnt best to stop the influx...to plug the hole as to insure more water does not flow in? Because if you dont it will not matter how much water you pump out of the ship, more will just have more and more water to deal with and less time to until the ship sinks (collapses).
Many things you can do to marginalize them.Quote:
Now what. You will still have 30 - 60%, (I'm guessing here), of the population that supports liberal, leftist, communist ideology, and more importantly will vote in that vein.
Voter Protection Laws. showing ID, ending Motor Voter Laws, shorting "early" voting periods, limiting absentity ballots, walk back registration by a few months. This will really weed out the low/no info voters that make up the bulk of the marxist left. These people have little initiative and are largely unaware of civics
Gerrymandering. Create districts in the country, marge larger districts in urban areas together both federal and state elections. this will insure states have a state legislator with a GOP majority.
Census. Do not count Immigrants legal or illegal, this is how blue states cheat and inflate their numbers, just like the 3/5 clause only its with immigrants instead of slaves.
When we get the state Trifecta (State House, Senate, and Governor under one party) push through things like school vouchers/choice as to break the cycle of indoctrination of public schools, crack the wipe on illegals, ban the future ban on firearms, mags, etc, but what we are pushing for is a Permanent Victory...Article 5 Section 2.
A Convention of States that would allow us to Amend the Constitution with a few amendments
We need 34 states to pass a bill, 8 already have Florida, Georgia, Alaska, Alabama, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Indiana and Louisiana and 33 states are controlled by Republicans--we must press our advantage while it lasts.
Just think of being able to over ride the Supreme Court with a 2/3 vote of the Senate, or a Balanced budget Amendment, or other handicapping of the Federal Parasite?
Some are worried about the left hijacking the Convention, while this a remote possibility it requires a min of 13 to approve of any an Amendment and it must be voted on and approved by the 38 states in order to be ratified into law.
And if I am wrong? Well the U.S Military will have to obey their oath and if necessary give a few traitors some helicopter rides.
This is a Golden Chance (maybe the last) to stop the left short of "other routes", but then again none of this will matter if we are diluted, displaced, and out voted by imported ringers.
Well an impossible end goal but we can improve upon our current state of things. The perfect is the enemy of the good.Quote:
How are you going to ensure that only strong, anti socialism persons are born and raised here?
In a word? Darwinism. Leftists are not breeding any were near replacement levels. They have to indoctrinate children (and import voters) because they do not replace themselves anywhere near enough for them to propagate their own numbers.
If you take away leftists control of the education (via vouchers/choice, etc) they will lose new host to infect with their mental illness, that alone will be of a massive gain as we do not have to hope the real world will beat the lies of them, factor in the effects of immigration control, voter protection laws, etc and the future is very bright. But it must be fought for, secured and maintained with and for guards for our future security.
Let us insure that our future is firmly and solely in OUR hands.
Wow, that was fast. So because I do not want subversive or sick/burden some people in this nation I am a Nazi? So why do you not say the same thing about Japan, Austria, or Israel?Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
Why should we let in people who are going to harm and reduce our standard of life, unity, wages, and our future?
Why is it people like you can not answer such question?
How does it feel to know your tactic of screaming "Nazi" or "Racist" does not really work anymore?
I get it, no one wants to admit they are wrong, but even if they do not admit or accept it it does not change what is true and the facts at hand?
GOP, but the Nationalist, Populism, Liberty mind wing. We are taking back the party from the Neo Con/Globalist wing which has been nothing but a failure at best and Controlled Opposition at worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by sroz
Clearly you fail to understand Immigration effects everything, crime, terrorism, economy, taxes, demographics (their effects on elections). But that does not change that fact that it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by CavSct1983The idea that higher costs drive down birthrate is absurd. What drives down birth rate is an acceptance of two things: the selfishness of contraception in conjunction with wanting to have a lifestyle that's of itself luxurious and overly materialistic.
Case in point:
This couple has 13 kids total, some old enough to be out of the house:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...cent-debt.html
Between dad's salary and odd jobs, etc., they pull in around 110k a year. He went from owning a bookstore making 36k to doing a STEM job (software development) which pushed his salary higher... IT isn't rocket science. PLenty of average folks could do it if they'd devote what... 1-2 years of self-study to get their foot in the door.
COL comparison:
http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-li...ings-co/110000
He would make around 91k here in COS (and since he is work from home, if he doesn't HAVE to go into the office a day or two a week, he could move somewhere even cheaper than Bowie, MD).
I know several families with huge amounts of kids (8-12 per family). All are traditional Catholics who place the fecundity of a marriage and the relationship of the family first and materialistic outlooks are low, low, low on the list. The husbands didn't "follow their dreams" and go into low paying liberal arts nonsense; they also didn't rest on the laurels of being some low level union-job having lackey. Not all of them are STEM, either. Of all, the wife doesn't work but stays home with the kids and generally homeschools -- if there's a period where there is an age gap big enough for older kids to take care of younger ones, they might get a part time job if needed. A few are light blue collar (and some are so blue collar you need a glove to shake their hand if you don't want to lose skin) and instead of buying some place in the city, they bought a little land and do things like sell chicken eggs, the kids do odd jobs to earn spending money, and clothes are passed down and repaired until they need to be replaced. Fanciest new things? No. TV cable costs? No. etc.
Let's be honest -- as Americans, in general, we live like kings of yesteryear. And we have no need to do so. We do this based on a cycle of debt and a post-ww2 seeking of (as Ann Barnhardt puts it) "precious, precious shit" which would give our grandparents a heart attack. One of my grandfathers was a mid-level manager of a mining operation in rural florida (phosphate), having worked his way up from the phosphate pits themselves. They lived in the same house my dad and his brother lived in as kids. 3 bed, 1 bath, 20 acres. Granddaddy and Granny gardened, canned food, and had very little in the way of possessions. What they lacked in shiny, they made up for in familial love and solid, traditional values. They were by and large happy. My mom's parents were much more well off, and they were generally miserable (possessions and pursuits don't fill the gap left by a horrible family life). Papa was a senior sales exec for Florida Citrus, making darn good money. Always in debt though, because the jump from being the wife of a ww2 sailor who left high school early to join the Navy to "being somebody" went to Mimi's head; Country Clubs are a hell of a drug. I would not call her atypical of the era and certainly she was more in line with today's mentality than not. Appearance mattered. Having new things mattered. My mom swears that when Papa got promoted and they moved to a "richer" area, the family began falling apart. Yet, they did have 6 kids total, the oldest of whom died shortly after being born due to complications from spina bifida. The problem, though, came in when they adopted a mentality of having possessions mattered, as did maintaining a social standing. Be honest -- isn't that the reason most people have their 1.2 kids, if any? Because it's too "expensive". It's not. What's expensive is a materialistic approach+kids+thinking they need all kinds of crap too+keeping up not only with the Joneses, but outpacing them.
I also know a young family, 3 kids all under 4, husband is a great friend of mine (actually my godfather from when I converted). He is an apprentice Electrician. If I had to guess, he probably makes around 17-20 an hour. They don't have a glorious life. Wife stays home with the kids. But, as best I can tell, they are happy. They're working towards a goal of him getting his foot in the door and becoming a Journeyman and eventually Master Electrician. He's non-Union. They do little things to make up for areas where $ might be lacking... i.e., leftover/scrap wire, he takes home, strips, and sells the copper. He strips it while they watch a dvd after the kids are asleep. No one promised him a rose garden, and after 4 years in the Marine Corps as a grunt, experience as an outdoors guide in Alaska, converting to the Faith, he is not upset about life -- he's seen and experienced worse. In short, he's a man and not some whiny little boy with a possessions addiction.
I know far too many families with huge amounts of kids to believe that the economy is the problem. The economy is a symptom of the problem. Those who have a will, will make a way. It's just that simple. Blaming someone is a bitch move. THAT's why I don't dig the so-called Alt-Right. They seem more into blame than they do solutions.
And Catholics are bloc voters for the left.Quote:
Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck
Thank for proving my point. Everyone who is struggling must be a bitch, or the issues they face must not exist as you do not face them...This classic moralist mindset is what is wrong with the so called right.Quote:
Originally Posted by CavSct1983
Really? Have you seen our solutions? Have you seen what I have recommended here? I am not the one whining and bitching without adding some kind of ideas on how to fix things.
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SGI talks about wasting political capital on real moral issues, but then goes out into alt-right (that is, far left) field on ridiculous immigration issues which have no historical basis in working. It's like saying, "I want to eat the whole buffet, so kick out the other folks who want to eat". That doesn't solve the problem of a national gluttony. America has ALWAYS been a nation of immigrants. If Mexican/OTM immigration is a thing he wishes to stop, taking away the incentive to come here and stay would be a good middle ground to start with. We had that in the Bracero program. Two things led to its demise: Commie agitator Cesar Chavez and mistreatment by farmers. Reinstitute the program smartly, expand it to jobs Americans won't do aside from just farming, and you might just realize Pedro would rather be here 6 months and make 3 Mexican years of wages that he takes back to Sinaloa before he repeats the cycle. Kill NAFTA and make sure Mexican farming stops dying due to Big .Gov support of domestic failure, and you might find that a bunch of Pedros have no need to come here. Engage Mexico smartly as an ally, instead of facilitating their destruction, and one might find people are more apt to stay there.
A reaction from one extreme to the other extreme will only swing the pendulum. It's doesn't turn back the ticking of our national timebomb. That would require a national reawakening to the values, morals, and lifestyle that made America great in the first place. At that starts at home, not in some political office.
We are not far left, we do not ignore facts and scream cliches and charges of "racist" when we are clearly losing on the issues.
"No historical basis for working?" Maybe you should read a little on the issue. http://usinc.org/wp-content/uploads/...torylutton.pdf
Our immigration restrictions clearly work, some people here just cant stand the idea that some have better then others and some how see it as "unfair".
No, America is not a "nation of immigrants". Just saying something does not make it so. America was Founded by the decedents of Settlers and was intended for their Posterity, not to become some flop house. If you read the works of the Founders they were against mass immigration of all groups as they understood it would change the nation and clearly not for the better.
We tried that before, it was abused, so we are going to bring in machines. They work all day (and night) never get hurt, cost less and burden not cent to the tax payer, why do you object to this?
NAFTA was a mistake and classic example of why free trade is a crock, and its time we end it.
We are going to engage Mexico smartly, we are going to do what is best for America, the wall is going up, they are going to pay for it (via taxes on remittances)
How is that going to work when we are importing people who do not want to tweak anything and just vote for a welfare check again?
Remember in a democracy if you vote to keep your stuff and two people vote to take it from you, you lose fair and square, see how that works? If you are against being plundered you are some how the 'bad guy".
You clearly have some passion but you are clearly ignore the facts.
There's no reason to admit i'm wrong, when i'm not. I posted the flag as you were referencing eugenics in another post here. Two things call to mind that way of thinking. Late 30's Germany and Margret SangerQuote:
Originally Posted by SG1
I inquired because i want to know at what point does one draw the line? Muslims today, Irish, italian the next. You want everyone to provide blood purity cards to verify they're not trying to pass them self off as white.
I believe the only party you belong to is the Delusional party.
You are wrong, all you are doing is using a reductio ad hitlerum as you can not defend allowing in people who are a burden or a threat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
Who wouldn`t you allow into the nation? Can you answer that?
I set my proposed rules, ideas, limits, you have offered nothing but 'Your are mean!".
I get it, you can not answer it as the facts prove you wrong. Why not accept facts as facts and leave the lies and myths the cultural marxist have forced on you in the trash where they belong.
And this episode of SG1 trolls the board has reached it's conclusion.
Please tune in next time (or don't) when this young man will explain how he has all of the answers and anyone who disagrees with him is wrong.