RUFKM? Judge orders Colorado Cake Maker to serve gay couples

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Originally Posted by Sharpienads

Right? I think any anti-descimination law is bullshit. You have a policy of not serving "coloreds"? Fine, that's your choice, but I won't be utilizing your services and I'll be sure to let everyone I know how ignorant you are. I guarantee your business won't last long. No need to get the government involved. No need for re-education.

I just don't understand the attitude of the people that think the government needs to get involved in every aspect of our lives.

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+1. I sort of understand how back in the day those sorts of laws were needed (if still in a definite gray area), but nowadays, hell, if they don't want to serve you give 'em a bad Yelp review and move on with your life.

(Still think the 13th Amendment would make for an interesting defense in these cases).

Wedding cake for this couple???

[sheepshagger]

Like I'd really eat a cake that some judge forced someone to make for me... Mmmmm! Is that butter cream frosting?

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Originally Posted by copfish

Like I'd really eat a cake that some judge forced someone to make for me... Mmmmm! Is that butter cream frosting?

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But but your Honor, the cake he provided for us smelled like [pileoshit].

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Originally Posted by copfish

Like I'd really eat a cake that some judge forced someone to make for me... Mmmmm! Is that butter cream frosting?

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Well if your THAT kind of couple, the taste for that particular brand of Buttercream is probably not too objectionable.

NSFW (F-bomb)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4wnyCRRi0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H44ZLiOlN0A

They could have just gone here, but that wouldn't advance the agenda...

http://www.lebakerysensual.com/#P4015-angrybirds

Or here.
http://www.engaygedweddings.com/co/g...-cakes-co.html

or here.

https://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0505-06.htm

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Human rights groups have condemned the "barbaric" murder of a 14-year-old boy, who, according to witnesses, was shot on his doorstep by Iraqi police for the apparent crime of being gay.

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Originally Posted by hollohas

The baker didn't even refuse their business, he just refused to participate in their wedding that he didn't believe in. He offered to bake them other goods...but he just wouldn't bake them a WEDDING cake.

The whole argument is based on the premise he refused to serve them because they are gay. That is simply not true. He refused to participate in the wedding which Christians believe is a religious ceremony. So this 100% has to do with religion and like Ginsue said, is the trump card contained in contained in the constitution.

So, Irving, what other businesses or services should the courts force to participate in gay weddings against their religious beliefs? Should we force a Christian harp player to play at gay weddings? A Christian band? Should the courts mandate CHRISTIAN churches allow gay weddings on their property?

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Sorry, not buying this one bit. The baker of a cake doesn't participate in a wedding any more than an 18 year-old waitress participates in the round of drinks she serves to a table; and at least the waitress is in the same room. The baker isn't sponsoring the wedding, isn't donating the cake, isn't signing "I approve this wedding" in frosting at the bottom.

Have you guys seen the cakes on the website? They are all the same cake, with different words, if any at all. This isn't like a cup cake show where the owner personally delivers the cake in front of a crowd of people.

The comment about hay marriage being illegal in Colorado? You can do better than that. Making cakes isn't illegal, and it doesn't matter what the end user users the cake for. If that was an issue, Solo cups would have been run out of business years ago.

To answer your second question about the courts, I don't think they should have been involved in this at all, from either side.

I have little issue about the Baker declining to bake the cake. I do have a big issue with either side claiming this is a rights issue when it very clearly is not. It wasn't too start with anyway.