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07-13-2021, 11:09
sakserv

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Originally Posted by 00tec

Most ATV trailers will not have brakes unless it is a 4+ place trailer.
You will need a brake controller of some sort.

To be honest though, if you're pulling something big enough to need brakes, you need a bigger tow vehicle

Edit: you beat me to the post on the brake controller. Should be fairly easy to wire up.

The trailer I'm looking to pull is a PJ 18' tandem axle utility trailer. It comes with brakes. I plan to pull both an ATV and 4 person side by side behind a 2019 suburban.

I'd also like to pull the same trailer with JUST the atv behind my Jeep Wrangler
07-13-2021, 11:16
00tec

Quote:

Originally Posted by sakserv

The trailer I'm looking to pull is a PJ 18' tandem axle utility trailer. It comes with brakes. I plan to pull both an ATV and 4 person side by side behind a 2019 suburban.

I'd also like to pull the same trailer with JUST the atv behind my Jeep Wrangler

You're gonna have to squeeze those on there pretty tight. Sounds like just barely enough trailer, depending on the SXS

7 pin isn't that hard to wire in. You will just need to add the +12v to charge the trailer in your situation. Trailer likely doesn't have reverse lights, and that Curt deal will provide the brake signal.
07-13-2021, 11:22
sakserv

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00tec

You're gonna have to squeeze those on there pretty tight. Sounds like just barely enough trailer, depending on the SXS

7 pin isn't that hard to wire in. You will just need to add the +12v to charge the trailer in your situation. Trailer likely doesn't have reverse lights, and that Curt deal will provide the brake signal.

Thanks again for the details! I do appreciate the input. I'm handy, so I think I can DIY it.

The 18' trailer looks like it should be good, but the side load ATV ramps look to be key. The ATVs I had in mind were 46-50 inches wide and the SXS is 12.5 feet long, so 16-17' total unless I'm off?
07-13-2021, 11:28
00tec

Quote:

Originally Posted by sakserv

Thanks again for the details! I do appreciate the input. I'm handy, so I think I can DIY it.

The 18' trailer looks like it should be good, but the side load ATV ramps look to be key. The ATVs I had in mind were 46-50 inches wide and the SXS is 12.5 feet long, so 16-17' total unless I'm off?

A fused 12v from the battery to the hitch should be all you need.

You should be able to get them on there, but you also have to figure in space between and space occupied by your strap method of choice.

Be careful with your weight balance. I have to load my SXS pretty far forward (how it looks anyway) to keep weight on the tongue because there ass heavy.
07-13-2021, 11:32
newracer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

Then he can rewire it, or can he?

Yes. There are kits that you plug the 4 pin into then run the other wires.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sakserv

It is a 2015 jeep wrangler. They still only come with a 4 pin. I'm new to pulling trailers and most all of those come with brakes these days, so might as well use. :)

2 door or 4 door Wrangler?

If 2 door you will be getting close to the limit for towing, if not over, so I'd definitely wire in a brake controller.

This would be easy to wire. Plug in your 4 pin and then run the other wires.
https://www.etrailer.com/Wiring/Curt...BoCrUAQAvD_BwE
07-13-2021, 11:57
sakserv

Quote:

Originally Posted by newracer

Yes. There are kits that you plug the 4 pin into then run the other wires.

2 door or 4 door Wrangler?

If 2 door you will be getting close to the limit for towing, if not over, so I'd definitely wire in a brake controller.

This would be easy to wire. Plug in your 4 pin and then run the other wires.
https://www.etrailer.com/Wiring/Curt...BoCrUAQAvD_BwE

Again, really appreciate the input and points to consider. It is the Unlimited/4-door Rubicon, which does seem to give me a bit more room, but I am concerned about bumping up against the limit. The trailer is listed at 1950lbs and most atvs seem to be in the 800lbs range, and I believe the unlimited Rubicon is rated to 3500, so I'm hopeful I can make it work.
07-13-2021, 15:29
newracer

You are correct that the 4 door is rated to 3500 lbs. I towed a popup camper with mine that was probably a little over 3500 when loaded and didn't have any problems, I did have a brake controller.
07-13-2021, 15:51
Great-Kazoo

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Originally Posted by sakserv

Thanks, I do have one of the Curt bluetooth brake controllers so I can move it between my two tow vehicles. Seems everyone feels it is straight forward to DIY, so I'll look into that option.

A few issues with that. IF you move them, you'll have to adjust the sensitivity of the controller. Based on the weight difference of the vehicles, including the wiring harness adapters for each vehicle. So IF you're going to move the controller, you have to remember where you put the wiring harness section you took out. It's like going from a stock stereo, to an aftermarket, one needs the correct harness..

There's aftermarket ones available. I'm too lazy to look atm.

https://www.curtmfg.com/part/51526
07-13-2021, 17:14
00tec

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

A few issues with that. IF you move them, you'll have to adjust the sensitivity of the controller. Based on the weight difference of the vehicles, including the wiring harness adapters for each vehicle. So IF you're going to move the controller, you have to remember where you put the wiring harness section you took out. It's like going from a stock stereo, to an aftermarket, one needs the correct harness..

There's aftermarket ones available. I'm too lazy to look atm.

https://www.curtmfg.com/part/51526

His is a bluetooth controlled deal that has no in-cab controller. It goes between the 7 pin on the vehicle and the trailer harness plug, like a dongle. All controlled with his phone, which I imagine has a way to save vehicle profiles.

It's the future, or something
07-13-2021, 17:50
Great-Kazoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00tec

His is a bluetooth controlled deal that has no in-cab controller. It goes between the 7 pin on the vehicle and the trailer harness plug, like a dongle. All controlled with his phone, which I imagine has a way to save vehicle profiles.

It's the future, or something

The Jetson's are the future. Me, i'm still partying like it's 1999.

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