Whoa a servant of the lord in the elevator with me.
ALL THE POT SMOKERS SAY YEAH.
AMEN to the preacher for tellin it like it is
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I think the pastor was being polite.
That was one helluva sermon! I like him! [Beer]
Yeah, I'm surprised at that... are you feeling okay today Luigi? [ROFL1]
I see the point here, regardless, you don't have to be religious (or in this case the kind of religion doesn't matter) to see that this pastor makes a great point... Color before all else is wrong.
I just saw this article and thought it might be food for thought for the "No 17 year old anywhere could possibly be a threat to me" crowd. This shining example of citizenship is being indicted for capital murder (killing Officer Molina). I've quoted the relevant part of the article.
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While Molina was talking, Gonzalez "struck the victim on the face and then grabbed his legs and threw him to the concrete. (Gonzalez) then got on top of the victim and continued to punch him in the face," the document states. Police said that Molina was knocked unconscious when his head hit the ground, and that Gonzalez continued the assault despite Molina's being unable to defend himself.
I saw this and liked it, I may have to pay attention to more of this guy's stuff. (if a repost, my apologies and talk tot he guy on the left)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjV9d...=TLjscg-NWzSk8
I think he's got it right! This pastor is being very realistic and truthful. Not JUST black.
http://news.yahoo.com/black-americas...070000529.html
Might be a repost, sorry if it is.
That was very well written, Mr Ayoob sure does reiterate a lot of good points I've heard during this whole fiasco, such as:
"When Zimmerman lost sight of Martin, the latter was a very short distance from home. Yet in the four minutes thereafter, he had to have left that location and gone toward Zimmerman’s."
"And if Martin really believed he was in danger from the man watching him, why didn’t he simply call the police from the phone he was already speaking on?"
[Beer]
Too bad so many useful idiots that think with emotion rather than reason and obviously have zero faith in our justice system won't agree with those plain and simple thoughts.
Charles Barkley agrees with George Zimmerman verdict (at the same time obama admits he would have been high and beating on anyone that "followed" him 35 years ago (paraphrasing))
Charles Barkley has never been one to shy away from controversy, and on Thursday he weighed in with his opinion on the George Zimmerman verdict.
"Well, I agree with the verdict," Barkley told CNBC. "I feel sorry that young kid got killed, but they didn't have enough evidence to charge him. Something clearly went wrong that night - clearly something went wrong - and I feel bad for anybody who loses a kid, but if you looked at the case and you don't make it - there was some racial profiling, no question about it - but something happened that changed the dynamic of that night."
Barkley added that because of the lack of evidence, he doesn't think that Zimmerman should go to jail "for the rest of his life."
"Mr. Zimmerman was wrong to pursue, he was racial profiling, but I think Trayvon Martin - God rest his soul - I think he did flip the switch and started beating the hell out of Mr. Zimmerman. But it was just a bad situation," Barkley said.
Barkley, 50, went on to express disappointment in what he perceived as racism in the media.
"I just feel bad because I don't like when race gets out in the media because I don't think the media has a "pure heart," as I call it," Barkley said. "There are very few people who have a pure heart when it comes to race. Racism is wrong in any shape [or] form - there are a lot of black people who are racist, too. I think sometimes when people talk about race, they act like only white people are racist. There are a lot of black people who are racist. And I don't like when it gets out there in the media because I don't think the media has clean hands."
This sums it all up in one sentence.
There are a lot of black people who are racist
You thought wrong. Molina isn't me, so how is it relevant? I never said a 17 year old couldn't beat other people to death in a fight, just that they couldn't beat me to death in a fight, based on the fact that they'd have to get on top of me to do it, and I have 20 years of training and results indicating that it isn't anything for me to be worried about. People can't get on top of me if I don't want them to. I won't hit my head on the concrete when someone takes me down. It doesn't mean I'm tough. It doesn't mean I can throw a punch.
Everyone else, including you, what are you saying? That 17 year olds are a potential threat, so you should carry a firearm? We'll I already do that, and at the point that I felt threatened for my life, I would use it. If someone knocked me out before I felt threatened for my life, which I acknowledge anyone could do, what difference would it make if it were you, me, if you were carrying or not, or what your position was on this issue? You're not going to draw before you feel threatened for your life.
If I got in a fight with a lone unarmed 17 year old, or most people, I wouldn't immediately draw my firearm because I wouldn't be afraid for my life. How does my position differ from yours? How does my position differ from George Zimmerman's? Are you saying that you'd draw your weapon and use it to avoid any fist fight/scuffle with any person? I assume that's what you're saying. If not, what are you saying?
What a pussified country we live in. Half the guys on this forum wouldn't help a woman being killed outside their own door, and the other half are afraid for their life in a little fist fight.
^ don't forget he also cried when folks don't want to resell their groupbuy ammo LOL... what a drama queen.. now its woman being "killed."
Anyway, Brad Thor gave a great interview on Zimmerman's 2nd amendment right while promoting his book... Watch the video.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...rial-evidence/
And he's at it again...
http://kdvr.com/2013/07/19/obama-spe...erman-verdict/
Here we go again...let's get the wrestler an "S" to put on his singlet so we can move on.
I have felt all along that Martin did not like being challenged by Zimmerman and thought it was being "disrespectful" to him so he threw a punch that got George's nose. Then things escalated from that point. The young MAN could have responded with some diplomacy and courtesy and merely headed back home after answering politely why he was in the area....... This is just one OLD guy's worthless uncalled for thought. [blaster]
My point is that dismissing someone as a threat simply based on age can be a very dangerous and possibly fatal assumption.
In your post your said
And then followed it withQuote:
I never said a 17 year old couldn't beat other people to death in a fight, just that they couldn't beat me to death in a fight, based on the fact that they'd have to get on top of me to do it, and I have 20 years of training and results indicating that it isn't anything for me to be worried about.
Officer Molina was, based on news stories (I know, I know), sucker punched hard enough that he didn't(couldn't?) protect his head when he was taken to the ground. The impact on the ground knocked him senseless enough that he was beaten to death....by a 17 year old.Quote:
If someone knocked me out before I felt threatened for my life, which I acknowledge anyone could do, what difference would it make if it were you, me, if you were carrying or not, or what your position was on this issue?
I love earned confidence (even bordering on arrogance). Most of the guys I work with exhibit the same trait. That kind of confidence mostly comes from having been through enough that you have intimate knowledge of how you're going to react, body and mind, to a similar situation.
Blowing off an unknown factor as someone that "isn't anything to be worried about" based on your level of training is arrogance bordering on ignorance. Murphy is always a factor.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST STATEMENTS MADE THAT IS BEING COMPLETELY IGNORED, NOW AND THEN.
The prosecutions start witness Ms Jentel said that creepy ass cracka was used by trademark in reference to Z following him AND also used as T hinted / Jentel interpreted it to mean T thought Z was Gay , hence being followed.
As for a 17 yr old being a threat or not. Perhaps a few of you would like to tag along as we ride the subway around NY, OR Chi-town. Take a stroll through parts of Fresno, Norlins, Inner harbor area of BMO. Until you come in contact with a serious threat, you have no idea.
I have no doubt some areas i would venture in to would have a few of the "tougher" board members soiling their pants. Myself i have nor ever had any issues riding the subway's in NY. You look like a victim, you become a victim. You look weak, like the injured gazelle or zebra, you become food for the predator.
I rode the subway in Chicago from the far North side to the loop for years and never experienced any trouble. Of course my wife was usually along for backup and since this was years ago, I'd probably not do it now.[panic]
I used to think that carrying a little Stihl chain saw with a 10-inch blade in a leather holster would perhaps keep the perps with their switchblades away from us while using the "L"........ Never had the occasion to go that route.[LOL]
Jim mentioned take a stroll through Fresno. We were just through there a couple years ago and couldn't believe the number of folks living UNDER the bridges on a main highway.
Can't recall if this was already in this thread. Honestly, I'm just putting it here in the cloud so I can easily find it the next time someone tells me that TM was a good kid:
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...burglary-tool/
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...lows-a-gasket/
This is the best conspiracy theory tin-foil hat stuff I have seen in a while...and boy do I like wearing tin-foil!!!
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How did it go from this:
to this:
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Martin Luther King, Jr.
“Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them.”
Mary Frances Berry, former Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights
And this is my response to your response...
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